Known resolution for the "sticky brake" problem?

Barmats · 07-10-2008, 09:15 PM

I took my car to the dealer for a scheduled oil change and reported this issue. They applied Progman v30 and it didn't make any difference to the "sticky brake" problem. The dealer said they had never heard of this, and during their test drive, could not duplicate the issue. I can duplicate it at will, and it seems ridiculous to have this "feature" on an auto transmission.

NYF32DRIVER · 07-13-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barmats

I took my car to the dealer for a scheduled oil change and reported this issue. They applied Progman v30 and it didn't make any difference to the "sticky brake" problem. The dealer said they had never heard of this, and during their test drive, could not duplicate the issue. I can duplicate it at will, and it seems ridiculous to have this "feature" on an auto transmission.

That's just GREAT : (

I bring mine in tomorrow (But at least the shop foreman admits to experiencing it first hand) I am to be TOTALLY re-programmed.
Has it changed anything else for the better/worse ?

Thanks,
Joseph

ibimmer954 · 07-13-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Notorious

The problem i have isn't when braking, it's when letting off the brake from a stop, say a traffic light. When releasing the brake, often the car will hold for a moment, THEN release, sometimes with a forward "lunge" or "snap"... Thus the "sticky" refference, as if the brake pads stuck on for an extra moment.

My car is a May 2007 build with the AT. I had this problem when the car was cold. After is warmed up, the problem was less. But still there a little bit.

I just got my annual service done and they updated the software. Not sure what version, but probably v29 or v30 or so. I noticed after the upgrade, this problem is significantly lessened. It's not completely gone, but it behaves much better.

2e9x's · 07-14-2008, 04:43 PM

My wife's automatic 08 335i has the same issue. I have just learned to deal with it on the occasions when I drive it. She has never complained so I suspect she does not even notice.

My 6-speed 07 335i obviously doesn't exhibit this symptom.

ranny3 · 07-18-2008, 02:35 PM

same here, 06 325i auto... brakes are 'sticky' sometimes off a red light they are still engaged for a split second or two. Also when braking sometimes its very sudden - tried to change my driving behavior but it still happens. Like someone else said brakes seem to be either ON or OFF - no in between at slow speeds.

Is there a way to dis-engage the soft stop/start?

E92_335 · 07-28-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Streetfish

this is a feature of the car - its called break assist

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Originally Posted by tag824

Great in theory, poor in practice. It should be called brake desist.

LOL!

NYF32DRIVER · 08-13-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

My car is a May 2007 build with the AT. I had this problem when the car was cold. After is warmed up, the problem was less. But still there a little bit.

I just got my annual service done and they updated the software. Not sure what version, but probably v29 or v30 or so. I noticed after the upgrade, this problem is significantly lessened. It's not completely gone, but it behaves much better.

I have brought my car in TWICE for this problem. BOTH times the software was upgraded. The second time they had the car for TWO days.
There has been NO CHANGE !
I called BMW NA to complain about this issue and got some passive-aggressive snot nose who asked me what I thought a "reasonable time frame" was for BMW to correct this problem. (As if I had not waited long enough)
I said I didn't know but since I have been hearing about it from other owners for MONTHS now, I feel that it has gone on TOO long.
I received a call a few days later (which i did not answer) from a Woman at BMW NA informing me that there will be ANOTHER update "sometime" in September.
VERY annoying... WHY won't BMW NA just ADMIT that there is an issue ???????

Orb · 08-13-2008, 11:08 PM

FWIW,

You can have the softstop feature disabled in the software. The Tech has GUI for this. I had it done some time.

There is some other much hated features that can be disable like driveline release with an auto in D mode ect.

Orb

N54Fun · 08-14-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

FWIW,

You can have the softstop feature disabled in the software. The Tech has GUI for this. I had it done some time.

There is some other much hated features that can be disable like driveline release with an auto in D mode ect.

Orb

Details please! You had the feature turned off by BMW tech? Did you have to go through a series of steps to get their cooperation or simply ask for it to be deactivated? This would really be the ultimate solution.

Tag · 08-14-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

You can have the softstop feature disabled in the software. The Tech has GUI for this. I had it done some time.

How long ago did you have this done? I find it hard to believe becuase I've asked twice with two different techs that both told me there was no way of turning it off.

NJ2810-335i · 08-14-2008, 04:50 PM

Just had my 'sticky brakes' fixed - The Dealership cleared the Auto gearbox adaptations, reset the DSC sensors, and the Yaw Control sensor and the problem has completely gone. Technician who road tested my car with me before doing the work is convinced the the Yaw control sensor is the most likely culprit - the car didn't know when it was on level ground!

Orb · 08-14-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tag824

How long ago did you have this done? I find it hard to believe becuase I've asked twice with two different techs that both told me there was no way of turning it off.

LOL, you will be more person to live with this feature then. Even Autologic has this function so you don't even have to go to a dealer to get this done as they use BMW software.

Orb

Notorious · 08-15-2008, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NJ2810-335i

Just had my 'sticky brakes' fixed - The Dealership cleared the Auto gearbox adaptations, reset the DSC sensors, and the Yaw Control sensor and the problem has completely gone. Technician who road tested my car with me before doing the work is convinced the the Yaw control sensor is the most likely culprit - the car didn't know when it was on level ground!

Holy crap, i think that might be it... Something with the yaw sensor isn't working quite right making the car hold when it shouldn't be...

NYF32DRIVER · 08-17-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Orb

FWIW,

You can have the softstop feature disabled in the software. The Tech has GUI for this. I had it done some time.

There is some other much hated features that can be disable like driveline release with an auto in D mode ect.

Orb

Not sure if you were responding to me but...
I was assured that these features were disabled by the shop foreman (whom I believe to be an honest, nice guy). Once again NO FU*KING CHANGE !

Orb · 08-18-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCE90DRIVER

Not sure if you were responding to me but...
I was assured that these features were disabled by the shop foreman (whom I believe to be an honest, nice guy). Once again NO FU*KING CHANGE !

What a troll... Go spend 30.00 at http://www.bmwtis.com/ and find the TSB that show how it is done and there are even pictures. I changed this valve myself with the Autologic system. If fact i disable a few other BS features.

Orb

Tag · 08-18-2008, 11:10 PM

^ If you have the TSB can you tell us what it is?

Orb · 08-18-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tag824

^ If you have the TSB can you tell us what it is?

The last one i saw was for one series and its new. I'm sure he can find it.

Orb

NJ2810-335i · 08-25-2008, 06:15 AM

It's now over 2 weeks and 1200 miles since my 'sticky brake' fix. Number of sticky brake incidents during this time - ZERO - also auto box is smoother, and DSC works better!

BES335xi · 08-25-2008, 07:06 AM

who got it done for ya??? BMW DEALER...or like Orb said Autologic...i emailed autologics in NY...let me see what they say if they can do it or not.

Docray1 · 09-08-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NJ2810-335i

It's now over 2 weeks and 1200 miles since my 'sticky brake' fix. Number of sticky brake incidents during this time - ZERO - also auto box is smoother, and DSC works better!

Do you have any idea what TSB was referenced or what changes were actually made? Is it a software issue or related to a brake valve or yaw control sensor? It would be great to reference something with my dealer.

Thanks

e36 · 09-19-2008, 10:59 AM

any TSB for this yet? I feel like if i go to the my dealer and tell them to

" clear the Auto gearbox adaptations, reset the DSC sensors, and the Yaw Control sensor"

they may tell me to take a hike.

Lets get this fixed!!

BTW, I have a 2006 330i auto tranny.

-mike

Docray1 · 09-22-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by e36

any TSB for this yet? I feel like if i go to the my dealer and tell them to

" clear the Auto gearbox adaptations, reset the DSC sensors, and the Yaw Control sensor"

they may tell me to take a hike.

Lets get this fixed!!

BTW, I have a 2006 330i auto tranny.

-mike

I'm also waiting for some word. I called my BMW dealer and they were supposed to check with BMWNA for a TSB or some other guidance. So far, I havent heard back.

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2e9x's Major 50 Rep 1,137 Posts Drives: 335i ED 7/07 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: A Sunny Place iTrader: (2)	My wife's automatic 08 335i has the same issue. I have just learned to deal with it on the occasions when I drive it. She has never complained so I suspect she does not even notice. My 6-speed 07 335i obviously doesn't exhibit this symptom. __________________ 2010 Evo X - silver with a big, stupid wing on the back 2009 VW CC - Black/Black - with a 2011 328i on order to replace it - ED 8/1/11
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ranny3 New Member 1 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 2013 328xi classic Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	me too same here, 06 325i auto... brakes are 'sticky' sometimes off a red light they are still engaged for a split second or two. Also when braking sometimes its very sudden - tried to change my driving behavior but it still happens. Like someone else said brakes seem to be either ON or OFF - no in between at slow speeds. Is there a way to dis-engage the soft stop/start?
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Orb Lieutenant Colonel 111 Rep 1,764 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	FWIW, You can have the softstop feature disabled in the software. The Tech has GUI for this. I had it done some time. There is some other much hated features that can be disable like driveline release with an auto in D mode ect. Orb
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NJ2810-335i Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW 335i SE Auto Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Sticky brake solution Just had my 'sticky brakes' fixed - The Dealership cleared the Auto gearbox adaptations, reset the DSC sensors, and the Yaw Control sensor and the problem has completely gone. Technician who road tested my car with me before doing the work is convinced the the Yaw control sensor is the most likely culprit - the car didn't know when it was on level ground!
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Tag this is the way 18136 Rep 8,516 Posts Drives: N-1 starfighter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	^ If you have the TSB can you tell us what it is?
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NJ2810-335i Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW 335i SE Auto Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Update on Sticky brake fix It's now over 2 weeks and 1200 miles since my 'sticky brake' fix. Number of sticky brake incidents during this time - ZERO - also auto box is smoother, and DSC works better!
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09-19-2008, 10:59 AM	#87
e36 Lieutenant 101 Rep 432 Posts Drives: BMWs Join Date: May 2005 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	any TSB for this yet? I feel like if i go to the my dealer and tell them to " clear the Auto gearbox adaptations, reset the DSC sensors, and the Yaw Control sensor" they may tell me to take a hike. Lets get this fixed!! BTW, I have a 2006 330i auto tranny. -mike
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