Eugene no longer with Procede??

RiXst3r · 11-28-2007, 09:17 PM

Threads like these arent fair to the sponsors.... sure some of the info is correct, but it will spiral out of control and make the tuners wish they didnt even come on here. And thats not good for business, since sponsors pay bills to the forums.

remydlc · 11-28-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spool

This thread gonna blow up soon, and then get locked by morning

And Terry is going to be booted again, for no reason.

Wow, seem Eugene leaving PROcede, is like Bush with no war, 50 cents going out with no bullet proof vest, like seeing rappers dress like a hippie, Even worst, seeing BMW owned by (a) Toyota.

e90AW335i · 11-28-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Threads like these arent fair to the sponsors.... sure some of the info is correct, but it will spiral out of control and make the tuners wish they didnt even come on here. And thats not good for business, since sponsors pay bills to the forums.

Yeah, but at the same time, when you don't take care of your customer (best customers at that), then crap like this happens....

DrDomer · 11-28-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Threads like these arent fair to the sponsors.... sure some of the info is correct, but it will spiral out of control and make the tuners wish they didnt even come on here. And thats not good for business, since sponsors pay bills to the forums.

Threads like these aren't fair to consumers. I've paid $175 for a wire loom that I can't use. Shiv got pressured by everyone to get V2 out sooner than he was ready. His staunchest supporter on the entire e90post site just sold his Procede. That is worth having a very large thread about. To be honest, not sure he would have sold 1000 units without this forum's support. It's a double-edged sword.

E90ice · 11-28-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by remydlc

And Terry is going to be booted again, for no reason.

Wow, seem Eugene leaving PROcede, is like Bush with no war, 50 cents going out with no bullet proof vest, like seeing rappers dress like a hippie, Even worst, seeing BMW owned by (a) Toyota.

cn555ic · 11-28-2007, 09:22 PM

Yeah but closing out a thread to limit the exposure of a sponsor selling their product here because of a thread like this, is showing the customers or future customers that there is something to hide!!

Boostin335 · 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM

is eugenes forum name eugene?

NM_BMW · 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM

I respect Vishnu completely and love their work. I bought a XEDE for my evo from another customer and Vishnu support the product 100%!!! They even replaced it with a more recent version of their XEDE. Now with the proceed coming out they dropped the XEDE, but not the support for it. You all should really read some of the threads on the Evo forums about Vishnu. This is a thing that has been going on with their company for awhile. I as another member on here mentioned. I am not surprised by this behavior from Vishnu. I wish they would spend more time on projects, but hey, he is a tuner, not a parts shop. Here are some threads for interest....

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=307635

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=305859

cn555ic · 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM

I just hope one of them chimes in on this!!

RiXst3r · 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kyleh4852

Yeah, but at the same time, when you don't take care of your customer (best customers at that), then crap like this happens....

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

Threads like these aren't fair to consumers. I've paid $175 for a wire loom that I can't use. Shiv got pressured by everyone to get V2 out sooner than he was ready. His staunchest supporter on the entire e90post site just sold his Procede. That is worth having a very large thread about. To be honest, not sure he would have sold 1000 units without this forum's support. It's a double-edged sword.

I completely agree... I was just saying that mods don't like sponsors to leave, obviously...

e90AW335i · 11-28-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostin335

is eugenes forum name eugene?

e.n335

cn555ic · 11-28-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Humtek

I respect Vishnu completely and love their work. I bought a XEDE for my evo from another customer and Vishnu support the product 100%!!! They even replaced it with a more recent version of their XEDE. Now with the proceed coming out they dropped the XEDE, but not the support for it. You all should really read some of the threads on the Evo forums about Vishnu. This is a thing that has been going on with their company for awhile. I as another member on here mentioned. I am not surprised by this behavior from Vishnu. I wish they would spend more time on projects, but hey, he is a tuner, not a parts shop. Here are some threads for interest....

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=307635

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=305859

????? what r u trying to say!! You like that they treat u bad?

Dolemite79 · 11-28-2007, 09:27 PM

Does the AA xede also have this boost spike problem?

E90 335i · 11-28-2007, 09:27 PM

Oh, no - this won't turn into a I love Terry forum (but I do), the Helix obsession is just starting to kick in.

DrDomer · 11-28-2007, 09:28 PM

Will we see this thread on this forum in 2 years?
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Originally Posted by McDougal
Nobody will buy mine. I should sell it for $20.

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Originally Posted by joseph k
they could still respond to there frickin customers

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Originally Posted by brodienuchies
Would be nice right! Especially after spending a gang of money with them

When I posted the same thing among other things I've noticed in the EVO 10 thread, I was accused of being bitter. Funny, you can't post objective observations about Vishnu on here without the fanboys freaking out.

At this point, I assume the Vishnu guys will get active again when the 10 rolls out, but I'm not sure why anyone would use their services. They have a history of using hardware that is quickly outdated to the point it is almost worthless after only a few years and abandoning markets when Shiv looses interest. Check out how many actual Vishnu replies in the Vishnu Section. It's really a joke. I for one have learned my lesson.

NM_BMW · 11-28-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

????? what r u trying to say!! You like that they treat u bad?

They have never treated me bad when i was in need of help. But that doesn't mean they can slack on the customer service either.... There is a major hole in that department of their business.

What I'm pointing out is they move from car to car, platform to platform, making great tunes, but then they drop the ball in move on to another car. I'm just talking from past experience that I've seen.

cn555ic · 11-28-2007, 09:29 PM

Helix is too far out of the picture...Release of the Helix won't be for months but than again people have to wait months for the V2 anyways!

Spool · 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Humtek

What I'm pointing out is they move from car to car, platform to platform, making great tunes, but then they drop the ball in move on to another car.

That's business, no. 1 goal is to make money, lots of it. when the resources are gone, you move on to another field, kinda like a swarm of locusts.

NM_BMW · 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

Will we see this thread on this forum in 2 years?
__________________________________________________ ______________

Quote:
Originally Posted by McDougal
Nobody will buy mine. I should sell it for $20.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joseph k
they could still respond to there frickin customers

Quote:
Originally Posted by brodienuchies
Would be nice right! Especially after spending a gang of money with them

When I posted the same thing among other things I've noticed in the EVO 10 thread, I was accused of being bitter. Funny, you can't post objective observations about Vishnu on here without the fanboys freaking out.

At this point, I assume the Vishnu guys will get active again when the 10 rolls out, but I'm not sure why anyone would use their services. They have a history of using hardware that is quickly outdated to the point it is almost worthless after only a few years and abandoning markets when Shiv looses interest. Check out how many actual Vishnu replies in the Vishnu Section. It's really a joke. I for one have learned my lesson.

I agree with you. Its like the pick up and leave without any warning. It can be quite scary. To see the XEDE drop price from a $900 product to $50 is crazy!!! Thats why I thought with my new car I would wait on the proceed to drop to rock bottom.

His tunes are great bar none... but the future of it all can be dramatic.

retrodrive · 11-28-2007, 09:32 PM

Unless he blew his engine from the V2 I don't really mind what he runs.

In fact I would not be surprised if he goes with JB. After all Terry gives those things away for free left and right to all the key people on the forum. Its no secret.

ontopofm · 11-28-2007, 09:32 PM

Helix is not out and not being test by many people. Who know what codes it will throw down the road???

NM_BMW · 11-28-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spool

That's business, no. 1 goal is to make money, lots of it. when the resources are gone, you move on to another field, kinda like a swarm of locusts.

Exactly!!! The thing is... they make tons of money then they don't finish the entire project. Make money to fund the next project.

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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Yeah but closing out a thread to limit the exposure of a sponsor selling their product here because of a thread like this, is showing the customers or future customers that there is something to hide!!
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Boostin335 Lieutenant Colonel 562 Rep 1,723 Posts Drives: G82 M4CX, C8, MKIV Supra Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North/Central NJ iTrader: (2)	is eugenes forum name eugene?
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NM_BMW Vishnu Powered 68 Rep 2,205 Posts Drives: 335xi, S1000RR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Proceding iTrader: (7)	I respect Vishnu completely and love their work. I bought a XEDE for my evo from another customer and Vishnu support the product 100%!!! They even replaced it with a more recent version of their XEDE. Now with the proceed coming out they dropped the XEDE, but not the support for it. You all should really read some of the threads on the Evo forums about Vishnu. This is a thing that has been going on with their company for awhile. I as another member on here mentioned. I am not surprised by this behavior from Vishnu. I wish they would spend more time on projects, but hey, he is a tuner, not a parts shop. Here are some threads for interest.... http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=307635 http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=305859
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DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Will we see this thread on this forum in 2 years? __________________________________________________ ______________ Quote: Originally Posted by McDougal Nobody will buy mine. I should sell it for $20. Quote: Originally Posted by joseph k they could still respond to there frickin customers Quote: Originally Posted by brodienuchies Would be nice right! Especially after spending a gang of money with them When I posted the same thing among other things I've noticed in the EVO 10 thread, I was accused of being bitter. Funny, you can't post objective observations about Vishnu on here without the fanboys freaking out. At this point, I assume the Vishnu guys will get active again when the 10 rolls out, but I'm not sure why anyone would use their services. They have a history of using hardware that is quickly outdated to the point it is almost worthless after only a few years and abandoning markets when Shiv looses interest. Check out how many actual Vishnu replies in the Vishnu Section. It's really a joke. I for one have learned my lesson. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Helix is too far out of the picture...Release of the Helix won't be for months but than again people have to wait months for the V2 anyways!
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