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      01-14-2011, 05:49 PM   #67
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for full factory conversion 525i 325i > 530i 330i for N52B30

1 change Intake Manifold
2 flash 530i 330i software in DME
3 in CAS change CLASS_PWR keine > klasse_2
4 in DME change OLULCODIERUNG wert_00 > wert_02


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      01-14-2011, 06:37 PM   #68
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for full factory conversion 525i 325i > 530i 330i for N52B30

1 change Intake Manifold
2 flash 530i 330i software in DME
3 in CAS change CLASS_PWR keine > klasse_2
4 in DME change OLULCODIERUNG wert_00 > wert_02


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@XDR,
Hey man, you must be a bmw tech/tuner no?
Do you know if its possible to just grab a 330i DME off ebay and just swap it into an 325i w/ a 3 stage manifold?

I heard you have to "align the CAS to the DME". what tool does that for you? (dealer?)

after you do this coding, can you swap the DME's out anytime? (w/o aligning)

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      01-14-2011, 07:38 PM   #69
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What is CAS? Another module?
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      01-14-2011, 08:55 PM   #70
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What is CAS? Another module?
yes, comfort access (white box)............

see, someone who's actually knowledgeable comes along and you guys scare him off! LOL, j/k
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      01-16-2011, 11:44 AM   #71
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To answer the OP question; kind of.

My 323i has the 3-stage intake (like a mini 330i) and it is a 2.5L. I win.
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for full factory conversion 525i 325i > 530i 330i for N52B30

1 change Intake Manifold
2 flash 530i 330i software in DME
3 in CAS change CLASS_PWR keine > klasse_2
4 in DME change OLULCODIERUNG wert_00 > wert_02


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Wow... Should we open a separate thread that starts with this post so we din't loose this discussion? This sounds to me like very knowledgeable information.

The question: why 330 software needs to be flashed? The assumption at the board is software is identical, but behaves differently based on VIN #

Here's link to continue with xdr's post information:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=477020
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      02-09-2011, 07:45 PM   #73
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Once the intake manifold is upgraded, RESET ADAPTATIONS!

My issue has been resolved! Using the Bavarian Technic tool, I was able to reset all the adaptations on my car, specifically the intake manifold adaptation. Once this was reset, the surges between 2,000 and 3000 under WOT are all GONE!
A battery reset simply did not do the Trick, but the Bavarian Technic tool is money well spent!
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      02-09-2011, 07:56 PM   #74
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So... In theory - that would have worked with the OE tune also?
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      02-09-2011, 08:31 PM   #75
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Jeremy usually resets the learned values. At least he did with mine.
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the Bavarian Technic tool, I was able to reset all the adaptations on my car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-K...s#ht_901wt_939

DCAN does the same thing, on an infinite amount of cars and 1/3rd of the price, oh well, for future reference.
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      02-10-2011, 12:00 AM   #77
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What software do you use with that cable.
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What software do you use with that cable.
the software/program is included in the cable. I recently learned that its necessary to clear all error codes caused by loading a tune in the DME.
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I believe the OE Tune would have been corrected

I had issues with the OE Tune that probably would have been corrected with the Bavarian Technic Intake Manifold Adaptation RESET. However I did not test this theory. The AA Tune had similiar issues, but they were 100% resolved upon resetting this adaptation. Jeremy told me I may have had adaptation issues, but that I could reset them by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes. Not true in my case.

So for the future, an intake manifold swap should be followed by a good tune, and having someone reset your adaptations with software.

P.S. the AA Tune is still smoother and I am sticking with it. No knocking at idle as well...
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Just wondering, great info here, thanks guys!
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Is there a DIY guide for the 3 stage manifold swap?
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http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455180

This is a guide of the conversion to the 3 stage manifold
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      01-04-2012, 10:01 PM   #83
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Now that this thread has been revived, has anyone ever looked into what xdr mentioned?
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Now that this thread has been revived, has anyone ever looked into what xdr mentioned?
E90pilot I heard friend can instaLLC the manifold. Is he is available? I will pay him for his work.
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The Z4 must have more room at the back of the motor, because I wasn't able to undo the little wiring harness clip back there, like they did in that Z4 thread.
Yes, the Z4 has more room behind the motor... much easier to access.
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Hey, anyone knows how to reset the intake manifild wit INPA?

I just installed the 3stage, disconnected the battery, did the "key + gas pedal" adaptation reset but I got 2 engine warnings. I got one the first time I WOT at 4000 RPM and the second at 5500 RPM. Both time I felt the engine unstable, I stop the car and restart. I drove a few run after for more than 1 hr on the highway and all looks fine, no error or warning.

If the warning come back, I will try to reset my adaption..

Btw, i usualy get 29 mpg and on the same trip I got 32 mpg after the intake install...with no tune. This would mean that the 3 stage is more economic on the highway.
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      07-14-2012, 06:07 PM   #87
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I have AA tune for 2 months and I have just upgraded my 325i Auto with 3 stage intake manifold. I feel hiccup when accelerating at around 3500 - 4200 RPM. Feels like the car hesitance for 3 hiccup before accelerating strongly again. Any one experience this issue?
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Yes, but mine happens below 3000rpm. I'm wondering if there's a bad sensor somewhere or bad vanos solenoid or valvetronic actuator.
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