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      01-01-2020, 08:20 AM   #23
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So I currently have an E90 335i 2007 to be exact. I may have found a rare manual spec 335is. Before I pull the trigger on this I wanted to know is the reliability better than the N54 in my 07 335i? The one I found is a 2011, I’m thinking this could also potentially be a good investment considering they only made 3,597 335is’s coupes. My current 335i is automatic and this one is manual. This one has sub 60k miles and mine has 150k miles. Just want everyone’s opinion. Thanks for reading :-)
I've been looking for a clean 335i 6 spd manual coupe but most air either modded or are not taken care of. I found a one owner 335is 6 spd that is bone stock and only has 75k miles. It's definitely not an investment but these cars are rare and definitely command a few thousand dollars more than an normal 335i
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Yes, I would agree with your assessment but is he looking to buy and maintain the car or restore it? I see the IS as similar to the ZHP and certainly not a collector’s car but a unique weekend car. BMW seemed to just use the IS name to try and recreate the ZHP mystic but came up short compared to the E46 version. I might pay a little premium for a well maintained IS but not for one that was a daily driver and not maintained well.
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Man I love the 335is personally. Exhaust Sounds so sick. N54 will have the latest parts. It has LSD, launch control, DCT, better interior and trim.

Although, if you've updated your n54 to the latest revised parts, I think it should be comparable.

IMO it's not a collectors car though, expect it to devalue just like any 335i
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I'd get a 6mt 335i. 335is DOES NOT have an LSD! Most of the 335is upgrades are not worth much. While I'm not sure what the BMW dual clutch transmission reliability track record is, I am very leery of these transmissions in general based on my negative experience with Audi's DL501 trans. Think about what might happen when dct eats shit, not too many people fix them and they are more expensive used than regular 335i zf at. But that just my experience, bmw dcts might be very reliable, I don't know.
In summary, if that 6mt 335is is offered for not much more than 6mt 335i typically go for, go get it. If not, pass
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The DCT is pretty reliable and from what I've read as long as you keep the power threshold below 600 hrsprs and about 550 trqs on stock clutches it stays happy. Anything above that would require upgraded clutch packs as it will start to slip. It's the same DCT shared with the E9x M3 and Ferrari California.
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]I'd get a 6mt 335i[/B]. 335is DOES NOT have an LSD! Most of the 335is upgrades are not worth much. While I'm not sure what the BMW dual clutch transmission reliability track record is, I am very leery of these transmissions in general based on my negative experience with Audi's DL501 trans. Think about what might happen when dct eats shit, not too many people fix them and they are more expensive used than regular 335i zf at. But that just my experience, bmw dcts might be very reliable, I don't know.
In summary, if that 6mt 335is is offered for not much more than 6mt 335i typically go for, go get it. If not, pass
i did not limit my search to an IS. But finding a manual transmission 335i (coupe or sedan) that has not been molested and modded is almost impossible. so when i found this one owner 335is that has never been modded with low miles i jumped on it. i agree that the 335is doesn't command any big premium over a regular 335i, except for the fact that the 335is continued to use the N54
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The DCT is pretty reliable and from what I've read as long as you keep the power threshold below 600 hrsprs and about 550 trqs on stock clutches it stays happy. Anything above that would require upgraded clutch packs as it will start to slip. It's the same DCT shared with the E9x M3 and Ferrari California.
Well okay, do we know if there is any information online about somebody repairing these? Just curious if it’s pretty much only the clutches or they got some components which can break. My dl501 had a selector gear lever sensor failure, and it was not accessible without removing the trans and splitting it apart. I hope that bmw dsg does not have anything like that.
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Having owned an IS since 2016 and rolling over 70k miles with the DCT along with getting to know many other IS members, none have complained about the transmission ever failing, even big single turbo guys. Only issues ever to be reported is slippage at higher power ratings which most people end up upgrading the clutch packs as I've mentioned earlier. In fact, there's a member on here who did hundreds of 5k rpm launches with the stock launch control built in and the transmission never failed but he did snap the driveshaft under warranty lol. It's a solid Getrag unit.
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DCT is super strong and no major or minor issues. I'm north of 600HP and its holding just fine.
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I'm right behind NoGuru and my DCT has had no issues and I'm always in the manual mode driving like the stereotypical BMW driver. Except I use turn signals. The IS is the ZHP of the e90 model line for sure. Years ago after looking for a ZHP for over a year, I finally bit the bullet and bought an E46 M3. I loved that car, but hated the cost to maintain and repair it. When it was time to get back into the BMW world, I waited my time and found an IS. M3's are great, but with that greatness comes a lot more cost and maintenance. Yes you can easily mod a 335i to be very similar to an IS, and soon as you start to tune, you are on a level playing field. But it will not have the DCT.
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I'm right behind NoGuru and my DCT has had no issues and I'm always in the manual mode driving like the stereotypical BMW driver. Except I use turn signals. The IS is the ZHP of the e90 model line for sure. Years ago after looking for a ZHP for over a year, I finally bit the bullet and bought an E46 M3. I loved that car, but hated the cost to maintain and repair it. When it was time to get back into the BMW world, I waited my time and found an IS. M3's are great, but with that greatness comes a lot more cost and maintenance. Yes you can easily mod a 335i to be very similar to an IS, and soon as you start to tune, you are on a level playing field. But it will not have the DCT.
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My friend has a 335is in 6MT. They are quite rare, only ~715 ever made in 6MT. Ever. Wouldn't buy a DCT but the 6MT may be worth it for you.
Why wouldn't you buy a DCT? They are faster than a manual. I don't read hardly any posts where someone blew their DCT trans up. Pretty stout trans much like the AT.
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      01-03-2020, 03:19 PM   #36
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The actual correct # of manual transmissions is 717 in coupe and 313 more in the convertibles.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...ht=335is+build

Someone spent some serious time putting together some spread sheets on all of the variations. The spread sheets start on page 4 fyi.
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Even though I have always said I would never buy an IS, because it's literally one BMW with the combination of like 4 other BMW makes issues wrapped into it...But I would be hard pressed to pass up on a low mileage steal of a value IS.
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Even though I have always said I would never buy an IS, because it's literally one BMW with the combination of like 4 other BMW makes issues wrapped into it...But I would be hard pressed to pass up on a low mileage steal of a value IS.
What issues are there outside of the N54?
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DCT is faster but less driver involvement. I still wish I had a manual in my B8 S4 - I know, not 335is which is probably more “involving”.
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DCT is faster but less driver involvement. I still wish I had a manual in my B8 S4 - I know, not 335is which is probably more “involving”.
I was on the fence between the DCT and the manual when I was looking. My buddy who is a dealer and was tasked with finding me an is has a DCT is himself. He was pushing me to get the DCT. I have been driving for over 30 years and every car I have ever owned the age of 16 was a manual, so I was resisting him. He kept giving me his car to drive around and after awhile, I eventually caved. I have no regrets at all. I am always in sport mode and manually shifting every where I drive. I still have complete control of what gear I'm in and shift when I want. And it's a damn fast shift.
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Hello all,
So I currently have an E90 335i 2007 to be exact. I may have found a rare manual spec 335is. Before I pull the trigger on this I wanted to know is the reliability better than the N54 in my 07 335i? The one I found is a 2011, I’m thinking this could also potentially be a good investment considering they only made 3,597 335is’s coupes. My current 335i is automatic and this one is manual. This one has sub 60k miles and mine has 150k miles. Just want everyone’s opinion. Thanks for reading :-)
I've personally owned and driven my 335is for little over 2 years now and haven't really had any issues with it(closing in on 100k mi) and I've loved driving it every mile. Being an N54 you do run into the well known "N54 problems" and if you already own an N54 you should know what to expect, but at least personally its never been anything crazy. The one thing i did run into that i hadn't heard of before was that the turbo charger wastegate started to have this little "metal like" rattle but after a quick search i found out i wasn't the only one. If you already own an N54 you know what to expect

The 335is that i have is also a manual and it is only 1 of 7. The 335is in general is a "rare" car because of its limited production run, I believe i got my car for a steal considering, so if you're asking if its worth buying that car well only you can make that decision.
Every car depreciates but its really all about the enjoyment you get after ownership. So you should search how many of that specific example were made, and if you feel that the price is right I would at very least highly consider it. Hahaha.

No but really, they're a lot of fun and have a lot of potential as far as upgrades and putting down some serious numbers (plus they're beautiful looking cars too).Hope you didn't find this boring and too long and hope it helped even in the slightest bit.
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2011 335is convertible!

I have to say... I absolutely loved my is convertible, before some old lady took a red light... now I am on the hunt for another low mileage 335is convertible. White if i Can find with low miles. Absolutely love this car and it's so much fun to drive on the weekends. I won't buy it as a daily driver.... but love having it in the garage and getting that wind, growl, and zipping around the curves in Big Bear Lake... As a few mentioned here, buy it because you enjoy driving it.... added the chip for added horses, got the KW3 kit, fatter Nittos, and was about to upgrade my sound. Can't wait to find the next one even if I have to over pay a little for my happiness.

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