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      06-07-2011, 09:23 PM   #23
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in my case the rod was moving side to side. I was getting the rattling noise when just revving the car and while the car is revving they tried to keep the rod from moving side to side and they notice the noise was much better so they took a chance knowing if it did not fix the issue they would not charge me. I was thinking it would just make it a bit better, but I was wrong it eliminated the noise completely.
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in my case the rod was moving side to side. I was getting the rattling noise when just revving the car and while the car is revving they tried to keep the rod from moving side to side and they notice the noise was much better so they took a chance knowing if it did not fix the issue they would not charge me. I was thinking it would just make it a bit better, but I was wrong it eliminated the noise completely.
i tried to hold mine side to side today while my woman rev'ed it up and it didnt really help
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      06-07-2011, 09:50 PM   #25
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Didn't Mr. 5 attempt this and the clip eventually fell out?
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      06-07-2011, 10:16 PM   #26
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This was done on the rear Wastegate. This was one of the first ones they were tackling so it was a lot of trial and error to get the e-clip the right thickness to make the rod tight enough so it would not rattle and still be able to move back and forth freely.
They charged me about 2 hours of labor but i am a
At the dealer about 2 weeks ago they replaced the turbos and guess what I know have an oil leak from the oil return line from the turbo. It looks like the dealer when putting on the new turbo did a half fast job and did not replace the gaskets.
Since I got the AA down pipe on now I will have to suck it up and pay to get it fixed
i don’t know if i want the dealer to do anything but maintenance work on my car since they seem so incompetent.
Since I finally found a good reliable shop I will probably need to take a vacation day and bring the car down to tyrolsport to get that taken care of, but I know it will be done right.
yea i think have an independent mechanic is much bettter..bmw does the min on jobs..they are on a mandate to churn and burn thru repairs.
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stupid question, will a n54 bolt up to my 540i 6 speed tranny.
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      06-07-2011, 10:26 PM   #28
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Highly unlikely ,,,540 is v8, n54 is I6
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Highly unlikely ,,,540 is v8, n54 is I6
i figured, my 540i blew up last year and i wanted to fix it, either the n54 or a chevy ly6 and t56 tranny or something simalar
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Instead of making a whole new thread, is this what you call waste gate rattle? I have watched a few vids (granted all on my iphone), and they all sound a bit worse than what I am hearing on my car. I pretty much just noticed it today. Is this normal sounding operation, or should I raise hell at the dealership? Don't wanna take all my mods off for nothing and have them say this is normal.

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I have this same noise right now but under regular driving, the noise is pretty bad. Im trying to get it all fixed under warranty but im having a hard time getting it authorized.
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Instead of making a whole new thread, is this what you call waste gate rattle? I have watched a few vids (granted all on my iphone), and they all sound a bit worse than what I am hearing on my car. I pretty much just noticed it today. Is this normal sounding operation, or should I raise hell at the dealership? Don't wanna take all my mods off for nothing and have them say this is normal.

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No actually yours not that bad. You should hear some cars you will be surprised how bad they are. Mine is so bad even the old diesels don't sound like that. Worse it makes an empty can type noise that is so obviously abnormal. Try selling a car sounding like that, I doubt there any brave souls who will want it without a hefty discount. BMW done wrong by its customers not doing much at all about the omnipresent issue.
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I think they are two types of waste-gate rattle noise.

I believe one is when cruising around and holding the car in gear, which can be fixed by changing the length on the waste gate rod.

the other waste gate issue is when just revving the engine and on de-acceleration you hear an annoying loud rattle, which I was able to fix by putting an e-clip in place.
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What about the idle? My car rattles on idle, on letting off the gas and occasionally while cruising. I don't even think I want new Turbos I hate how they do everything piece meal. Just fix the damn problem with new design or something. I may have no choice but to get upgraded Turbos now. I just get tired of the car being a frequent flier to the dealer and seating there for days on end only for the issues to re-appear later. I think this is almost as bad as the HPFP screw up.
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What about the idle? My car rattles on idle, on letting off the gas and occasionally while cruising. I don't even think I want new Turbos I hate how they do everything piece meal. Just fix the damn problem with new design or something. I may have no choice but to get upgraded Turbos now. I just get tired of the car being a frequent flier to the dealer and seating there for days on end only for the issues to re-appear later. I think this is almost as bad as the HPFP screw up.
at idle i think its not the waste gate, that is just the normal noise of a DI engine, i hope someone else can chime in to confirm
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I am not talking of the diesel like pinging, I know thats the injectors, I am talking of the loose cans type noise. Believe me you will know it when you hear it. There are a few posts on here with the idle rattle if you search.
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it sounds like sticking a plastic knife into a fan blade that is moving way faster than it should
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dont know but maybe this help someone..
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Nice OP. I need to try this to see if it works. My 135i also has a nasty rattle (worse than my 335i), so I went out and bought a 2nd PROCede which has a setting to adjust the wastegates (keep it partially/fully open). The rattle is now gone for me.

Not a true solution, but as long as the rattle is masked, it's ok. The 135i needed a tune anyways
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dont know but maybe this help someone..
great pic, that should answer a lot of questions :-)
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Quick question. If the car is rattling on start up and at idle if its just on and not even having the foot on the gas, could it still be the wategate arm on the turbos?
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