The Mr. 5 Intake...Cold Air Intake!

BrianMN · 12-21-2009, 10:32 PM

I've looked, but it didn't look promising. I think that BMW and any other performance vehicle [I]would[I] make the engine bay design/layout differently if it weren't for the 'convenient' laws.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all auto manufacturers are by law forced to produce cars that can be maintained by the 'average' owner without extensive knowledge or tools (So every car owner is capable of replacing light bulbs and air filters, etc)

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Originally Posted by klipseracer

I have a question... Has anyone ever considered putting filters like 6 inches from each compressor inlet somewhere? I know space is limited but is there any place to put such a thing? I think that the plastic intake pipes that pass next to the engine/radiator fan bring a lot of heat into the system that is unnecessary.

Vudoo4u2 · 12-21-2009, 10:49 PM

i appreciate the effort

but it seems you are taking a pressurized system and tossing in a variable...

would be interested to see the dyno/log results though to confirm one way or another

props for the effort

Craig@SupremePower · 12-21-2009, 10:55 PM

interesting..

Dan335i · 12-21-2009, 11:53 PM

Very nice job.cant wait to hear your comments and test results.Hope everything works the way you intend it to.

hotrod182 · 12-21-2009, 11:59 PM

Mad scientist

Vbox that thing!

5soko · 12-22-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Thanks man! I still have the scoops installed.

In that case, best intake yet?

I think steve dinan hates you.

mkPOTO · 12-22-2009, 12:18 AM

subscribed for numbers... very nice

lamia2super · 12-22-2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig@SupremePower

interesting..

+1

R1000K3 · 12-22-2009, 01:00 AM

Well done Mr. 5

NiVeDh · 12-22-2009, 01:06 AM

Ingenious!

XPO186 · 12-22-2009, 01:07 AM

Creative... I like it.

maui86 · 12-22-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by XPO186

Creative... I like it.

+1 for the new idea!

Terrance28 · 12-22-2009, 02:06 AM

Mr. 5 what is that part that you have on the radiator hose to get your reading, and where did you get it?

PaulBailey@ltbmw · 12-22-2009, 02:09 AM

WoW! Very inpressive!

zhangzeyuandss · 12-22-2009, 02:34 AM

really creative .. waiting to see some numbers. Mr.5 you should write your design down on a paper with all the photos of the design and mail it back to yourself, in case someone stole your brilliant design. ^.^ or maybe get a patent .

cstavaru · 12-22-2009, 03:37 AM

Great work, Mr. 5 !

To be honest, I was thinking about doing this too, I was looking for a place in the airbox to dig a hole

The Dinan intake does not fit if having the Power Kit installed, so the only way is to use some flexible tubing like this which runs through the plumbing of the extra water radiator of the PK.

In my opinion, in order for the intake to maintain its "pressurized" state the extra filter needs to be placed behind a scoop that somehow forces air into it. Because otherwise at speed the pressurized air from the airbox may in fact escape through the extra filter because there is not enough pressure at that end. A flap could be used to let the air flow only one way.

Anyway, I hope a company picks up this idea of an intake and releases a kit...

Former_Boosted_IS · 12-22-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

The main reason is because the stock air box has been proven to be restrictive and I personally don't like the whole idea of the DCI. I don't like the looks, the sound, and it kills me to think about all of the heat that the engine is sucking in.
I know I have meth now, but it doesn't mean that the air temps can't be colder.
It has nothing to do with money because I had to fork over the dough to get the test air box.

That is a ghetto version of the STETT intake. LOL! For $300, why not just get the real thing? I have tested it and it flow sufficiently and averaged 9F lower IATs versus DCI.

cstavaru · 12-22-2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

That is a ghetto version of the STETT intake. LOL! For $300, why not just get the real thing? I have tested it and it flow sufficiently and averaged 9F lower IATs versus DCI.

Stett unnecessarily eliminates the stock air box and the stock airflow which is of major importance in Dinan-type intakes. It's not the same thing.

chris b. · 12-22-2009, 05:44 AM

Former_Boosted_IS · 12-22-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cstavaru

Stett unnecessarily eliminates the stock air box and the stock airflow which is of major importance in Dinan-type intakes. It's not the same thing.

The stock airbox also will not flow sufficiently at higher boost levels. Nothing changes in this setup because the air still has to flow past the paper filter and the restrictive box. Cutting a whole in the box above the filter does not eliminate the restriction.

I am just saying that if you want a CAI just get the STETT. I have tested it to above a 150 rwhp delta over stock on 8 consecutive runs with no cool down. I didn't lose any power on the dyno and IATs average 10-20F below ambient. It works.

Potty_Pants · 12-22-2009, 06:40 AM

Any chance of a group buy ?

lol

let us know how it works out.

cstavaru · 12-22-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Nothing changes in this setup because the air still has to flow past the paper filter and the restrictive box.

Sorry, but you got it wrong. The supplemental air flow does not have to flow past the stock filter. It joins the stock flow AFTER it has passed the stock filter.

Stett could just modify their intake to enter the stock airbox instead of entering the turbo inlet ducts. I would buy it if they did that

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