[AndreyT]

Originally Posted by jeffb335

It doesn't plug into anything in the car. It just plugs into the dynavins harness and that's it. The plug on the other side of the box is not used in a standard install.

Oh, OK, thank you for prompt response.

I was confused by the fact that the description mentions plugging in the CANBUS box twice. A few paragraphs above it already said that we had to connect CANBUS box to Dynavin harness. And then later it mentions connecting CANBUS box again. So I assumed that this second time we have to connect the other end of CANBUS box...

So, the other end of CANBUX box should be left open. Got it.

[AndreyT]

A couple of additional questions:

* What about the diversity antenna? (I apologize of this has been asked already, but searching this thread for "antenna" did not immediately turn up an answer.)

The product description on the web site says that Dynavin N6 supports diversity antenna (i.e. dual antenna). My OEM headunit has two antenna-style connectors (FAKRA?) on the back with a separate cable attached to each one. I presume that this the main antenna and the auxiliary (diversity) antenna.

Dynavin N6 also has two FAKRA connectors on the back, but one of them is apparently reserved for GPS antenna and another is labeled as AM/FM antenna connector. What about those two antenna cables in my car then? Where do I connect the second antenna cable on Dynavin N6? And if this unit supports only one antenna, then which one do I connect?

* Two USB cables coming out of the back say "Media" and "Internet". I remember reading somewhere that this unit does not support Internet access. If this is true, then is the USB connector labeled "Internet" just another media connector? Or is it completely non-functional?

* A sticker on the top surface of the unit says "Please remove protection screws before using the unit". What "protection screws" is it talking about?

* The rubber plugs that cover the screws: is there a source where I can purchase some spare ones?

[jeffb335]

There is only one radio antenna plug on your car, its typically a black fakra connector. If you have another one its probably sat radio. You wont use it.

"Media" USB is for....media. USB drive or ipod connection. The "internet" connection is for potential future use BUT for now can be used to run an ipod AND USB drive at the same time. Although as I recall it only works one way though, so if it doesnt work, swap them.

All the dynavins have the same sticker on top, including the warning about the DVD drive shipping screws, BUT since the E9X doesnt have a drive....no screws either. So ignore that.

For the rubber plugs, they are hard to get, please try not to loose them.

[Varjo]

Is there any way to use the stock bluetooth antenna with Dynavin? No nav but I do have bluetooth and am happy with it.

[SoCalHarley]

Is there a way to accomplish a fade more to the front of the car? I realize there is only 2 channels feeding the MOST unit but I am wondering if anything can be done. I tried a splitter combining the front and rear into a single RCA into the MOST for L and R but it only helps a bit.

I found this new MOST adapter for BMW integration from Axxess made by Metra that has some additional features compared to the MOST adapter Dynavin uses.

I am wondering if this one has 4 channel input

Provides accessory power (12-volt 10-amp)
• Retains R.A.P. (Retained Accessory Power)
• Provides NAV outputs (parking brake, reverse, and speed sense)
• Retains audio controls on the steering wheel
• High level speaker input
• Micro "B" USB updatable
• Retains MOST® fiber optic amplifier
• Retains OEM Backup Camera
• Retains 3.5mm AUX-IN jack

http://axxessinterfaces.com/index.ph...roducts_id=440

https://www.facebook.com/MetraElectr...2046614502514/

Too much sound coming from the rear for my taste. Thanks.

[Yngve]

Originally Posted by Yngve

I have the original DAB+ module. But since it is crap, I bought the new official Dynavin N6-USB-DAB+ module.
Unfortunatly, the memorycard containing the needed N6 firmware update, was missing from the box.

I have not been able to find this firmware update, so I am hoping that someone in here has it, or can direct me to it.

My N6 has version 1.2.0, and it says N6-USB-DAB+: NO

Soundpressure.se, where I bought the DAB module, sent me a SD card with needed firmware. But now my car has VW firmware, and the regular E9X updates are not able to change this.
Also, the sound from the DAB module has high pitch tone that follows the engine RPM (alternator noise). The other input sources are ok.

Dynavin are not helpful here. They just said how to connect the module, and that a manual followed the product.

Does anyone have a lower level of firmware that could revert my N6 back to bmw e9x? Preferable with the N6-USB-DAB+ enabled, else i will be back to start...

[AndreyT]

Originally Posted by jeffb335

There is only one radio antenna plug on your car, its typically a black fakra connector. If you have another one its probably sat radio. You wont use it.

I read conflicting information about the purpose of that second cable on the Net (not surprisingly). Some say it is a sharkfin sat radio antenna. Some say it is sharkfin GPS antenna. (And some say that GPS and sat radio is the same antenna used for both purposes.) Finally, some say that this is just an additional AM/FM antenna.

Which brings around the obvious question: can we somehow use this second FAKRA lead (whatever that is) as Dynavin GPS antenna? Any chance of that to work?

As for the GPS antenna supplied with Dynavin unit... What are the installation requirements/recommendations for that one? I understand that "unobstructed" is the key word here, especially when it comes to metal obstructions. But what about orientation? Does it have to be installed with its base horizontal? Or can it be installed on a vertical surface? What about installing it horizontally, but upside-down (base facing up and plastic "dome" facing down)?

[AndreyT]

BTW, what is the reason for a dedicated constant 12V wire? Doesn't the OEM head unit need constant 12V supply by itself? For that reason, I'd expect the standard BMW quad connector to have a constant 12V pin already. Isn't that the case? Quad connector pinouts on the Net suggest that one of the pins is constant 12V...

[jeffb335]

Originally Posted by AndreyT

I read conflicting information about the purpose of that second cable on the Net (not surprisingly). Some say it is a sharkfin sat radio antenna. Some say it is sharkfin GPS antenna. (And some say that GPS and sat radio is the same antenna used for both purposes.) Finally, some say that this is just an additional AM/FM antenna.

Which brings around the obvious question: can we somehow use this second FAKRA lead (whatever that is) as Dynavin GPS antenna? Any chance of that to work?

As for the GPS antenna supplied with Dynavin unit... What are the installation requirements/recommendations for that one? I understand that "unobstructed" is the key word here, especially when it comes to metal obstructions. But what about orientation? Does it have to be installed with its base horizontal? Or can it be installed on a vertical surface? What about installing it horizontally, but upside-down (base facing up and plastic "dome" facing down)?

Orient it facing up, I usually use the metal bar in the center of the dash....take out the center speaker (or vents if you don't have the L7 system), you will see the crossmember in there.


There is not a 12v constant pin in the plug on the E90s.....that same plug is used in a bunch of different German car applications....but the pin configuration varies a lot depending on the car so whatever you are seeing online isn't right.

[AndreyT]

Originally Posted by jeffb335

Orient it facing up, I usually use the metal bar in the center of the dash....take out the center speaker (or vents if you don't have the L7 system), you will see the crossmember in there.

Thank you. Good idea. This is where I put mine as well.

Just finished the [preliminary] install, haven't tightened the screws yet. Some preliminary observations and problems:

1. The bottom portion of the unit does not fit in. I shaved the tabs on CC panel as suggested and removed a layer of material around those holes in the console, but that's apparently not enough. I'll investigate further to see what exactly is interfering. At this time I can force the bottom edge in to begin engaging metal clips, but the mid-section will still be bulging out.

(I just took a closer look at that colorful installation guide that came with the unit. In one of the pictures I see that the author not only clipped those corners off the CC panel, but also completely shaved off the original mounting clips of both ends of the CC panel. Most likely this is exactly what's interfering in my case as well.)

2. Everything is very loud by default, especially navi sounds. In navi I had to set the confirmation "click" volume to minimal possible value and then on top of that reduce the master volume. Without it the confirmation "click" was eardrum-piercingly loud. A pre-amp signal level issue?

3. There is very audible static coming out of the speakers when Dynavin unit is active (no matter whether the screen is on or off). A pre-amp signal level issue again?

Which raises the following question: how do I tell this unit that I have a HiFi system with an amplifier in my car, so that it can adjust its output signal level properly? The user manual shows that "Sound" menu is supposed to contain such entries as "OE DSP Amp" and "Factory Amplifier HiFi". These entries do not exist in my actual unit. What happened to them?

(In fact, your own FAQ, questions #13 and #14 seem to be dedicated to this very matter. But there are no such entries in the "Sound" menu. )

Every time navigation makes a sound (prompt, chime or anything else) it is accompanied by a distinctive background hiss. Only navi sounds have that hiss. Also a signal level issue?

4. When "Warning" option is enabled in the menu ("System" menu, if I remember correctly), opening front passenger's door (probably driver's door as well) produces a loud warning chime with something looking like headlight symbols displayed on the screen. What is this warning about? Headlights being on? If so, then why? And is there a way to adjust the volume of that warning? It appears that normally these gongs and chimes are adjustable, but this one for some reason is not.

The issue that concerns me most at the time is the constant static droning coming out of the speakers. What could be causing this?

[Bmwner]

Originally Posted by Varjo

Is there any way to use the stock bluetooth antenna with Dynavin? No nav but I do have bluetooth and am happy with it.

I am interested in this question too... My car has factory mic/bluetooth module, i can hear and be heard perfectly.

[AndreyT]

Originally Posted by AndreyT

Which raises the following question: how do I tell this unit that I have a HiFi system with an amplifier in my car, so that it can adjust its output signal level properly? The user manual shows that "Sound" menu is supposed to contain such entries as "OE DSP Amp" and "Factory Amplifier HiFi". These entries do not exist in my actual unit. What happened to them?

So, it appears that the situation at this time is as follows:

Currently, with firmware version 1.2.0, BMW E9x cars are generally not supported by Dynavin N6 headunits. I'm pretty sure this is not intentional, but rather a firmware blunder committed by Dynavin developers (this is, unfortunately, not surprising, considering that the number of bugs in the current firmware).

Here is the main issue: it turns out that the "Sound" options required for proper matching the output signal to the input of OEM amplifier (see the above quote) are unavailable when the car type is set to "E8x" (which, according to Jeff, is the correct car type for E9x applications).

In order to make these options to reappear, one has to change the car type to "E46/E39/E53". But in this mode a lot of Dynavin features described at the beginning of this thread will disappear or change significantly. You will lose remaining gas mileage display, battery voltage display, oil temp display from ODC screen. You will lose the "Reverse" option and PDC will become "permanently enabled", meaning that in cars without PDC will always show empty PDC screen every time you switch to reverse gear. None of this is acceptable. And there are probably more differences.

So setting car type to "E46/E39/E53" is out of question, while the current "E8x" is handicapped by the fact that Dynavin somehow managed to kill amplifier matching feature in "E8x" mode. (Maybe it wasn't there in the first place? I don't know, since my unit came with 1.2.0 out of the box.)

I hope that this problem is going to be fixed and fixed quickly by a firmware update. At this point Dynavin N6 is generally unusable with E9x cars (at least with ones with amplified sound system). I willing to give them a chance to fix this, but this raised quite a few eyebrows, to put it mildly, considering that this is $700 unit.

It is quite possible that there is some sort of trick that can re-enable these options under "E8x" car type, which I'm not aware of. For now, I'm waiting for email response from J&T Dynavin support concerning this issue. I surely hope they can prove me wrong here.

[Pingu2308]

Originally Posted by jeffb335

Navigation map data.

Cannot for the life of me find this screen so I can save a home city. Can find what clothes I should be wearing but not this 😂😂😂

[jeffb335]

AndryT

Emailed about your level issues.

Basically the manual is for ALL of the dynavin units so there are a number of functions that are vehicle specific, so not all functions are on all vehicles. Will sort out the rest with you directly.

[SoCalHarley]

Has anyone tapped into the factory microphone and adapted it for use with the N6. I found the location of the connector in the glove box that is the microphone wire but before I spend the time tapping into it I wanted to see if anyone has done this and how well it works. I have the Dynavin microphone installed as Jeff suggested and it works fine bit I thought this might be a way to make the install look completely factory.

[AndreyT]

What is "Seatbelt" option in "System" menu? What does it do?

[jeffb335]

same as the warning chimes....but allows for the seatbelt warning (or not)

[AndreyT]

Originally Posted by jeffb335

same as the warning chimes....but allows for the seatbelt warning (or not)

That was my first guess too. But I tried it every possible way, any just can't make it to give me the seat belt warning, regardless of the state of that "Seat belt" setting. Which is why I'm asking.

So far I was able to reproduce "Door ajar" warning, "Trunk open" warning, "Parking brake engaged" warning and maybe something else. It all works fine. But there's no seat belt warning. And "key left in the ignition" warning is also gone.

[jeffb335]

Yeah, I dont think that warning is in all versions of the canbus commands. I know it would give me the seat belt chime in my car but it was older.

[AndreyT]

Originally Posted by jeffb335

Yeah, I dont think that warning is in all versions of the canbus commands. I know it would give me the seat belt chime in my car but it was older.

Well, since my OEM head unit has no problems issuing "seatbelt' warning as well as "key in the ignition" warning, these commands are definitely present in my canbus. It is just that Dynavin for some reason fails to recognize them and/or ignores them.

[jeffb335]

Originally Posted by Bmwner

Hi Jeff, i would like to connect the power wire in the fuse box . I wonder if you added any inline fuse in this case.

Depends on how you connect the power wire.....if it's to an existing circuit, and you connect to the fused side of the circuit....then there is no need for a fuse. If you just plug directly into an unused slot, then you would want to install a fuse.

[AndreyT]

* The unit has two equalizers: one is 3-band equalizer called "Bass - Middle - Treble" in Sound menu, another is 5-band equalizer called just "Equalizer" in Sound menu. That's quite unorthodox. How do they work together? What is the intent? Are they supposed to work in concert, combining their adjustments? Or is one supposed to override the other?

* There is a "Navi" setting in the Sound menu with its own slider - a volume slider apparently. Inside the the Navi application we also have a separate set of native sliders for master volume and various categorized volumes. What is the purpose of that slider in Sound menu then? Master volume control for Navi? If so, then does it combine with native Navi application master volume? Or does it somehow override (or limit) it?