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      05-14-2020, 03:32 PM   #1
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Bought a 2008 335i with frame rail damage

Hey guys so a couple of days ago I bought a 335 from iaa(Insurance Auto Auctions). It has several issues but I don't think anything is really serious. Car has frame rail damage, wanted to hear your guy's opinion.
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      05-14-2020, 06:41 PM   #2
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you'll spend as much fixing it as you did buying it
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you'll spend as much fixing it as you did buying it
I was going to do all the work myself lol I only paid 3,600. I'm hoping that I could just get a welder to help out with the frame rail. Wondering if it's possible to just cut out another frame rail from another e92 335i and weld it together.
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If you have all the equipment, time, and are going to do everything yourself its definitely doable and probably semi cost effective, however, I'd be leery of anything with frame damage. Especially considering the age and value of the car as it sits.

Body work is difficult enough as is, I couldn't image trying to weld in a new section of frame on a car that's worth under 10 grand and feeling good about my investment after it's all said and done, but that's just me.

If it were up to me, I'd sell it as is and let someone else deal with it (be honest of course). And find something that needs some minor work that you can wrench on and sell for a profit down the road.

I'm assuming you didn't know it had frame damage when bidding?

I have a friend who won an older Gallardo at auction and didn't know it had significant frame damage until getting it looked at by a shop. I believe he ended up parting the car out to recoup some of his costs, but I know he lost about 15k on the deal.

Moral of the story, fixing extensively damaged cars isn't always the smartest decision.
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If you have all the equipment, time, and are going to do everything yourself its definitely doable and probably semi cost effective, however, I'd be leery of anything with frame damage. Especially considering the age and value of the car as it sits.

Body work is difficult enough as is, I couldn't image trying to weld in a new section of frame on a car that's worth under 10 grand and feeling good about my investment after it's all said and done, but that's just me.

If it were up to me, I'd sell it as is and let someone else deal with it (be honest of course). And find something that needs some minor work that you can wrench on and sell for a profit down the road.

I'm assuming you didn't know it had frame damage when bidding?

I have a friend who won an older Gallardo at auction and didn't know it had significant frame damage until getting it looked at by a shop. I believe he ended up parting the car out to recoup some of his costs, but I know he lost about 15k on the deal.

Moral of the story, fixing extensively damaged cars isn't always the smartest decision.
I knew it had frame rail damage lol. I personally wouldn't touch anything with any type of frame damage unless it was like very small. I'm literally just going to work and home I was looking for another project car. Since it's just the rail is the reason I particularly got it because it's not essentially the entire frame it's just the rail. Like since it's just that twisted part in the frame rail. I was like why not. I'll just to fix it up week by week ! ☺️
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Oof. That’ll be a pass from me. With as cheap as these things can be had, I don’t see a reason to buy one for a few grand less to then dump more than a few grand into.
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If you can weld then it shouldn't be too hard/bad to fix. I would ONLY buy one with frame damage if it looked like that and were in that exact spot. It's not really a critical point for anything right there since it's in front of the strut mount and it looks like it didn't move. As long as it's just right in that upper corner it shouldn't
be too hard.

I probably would have only payed closer to $3k for it though, you paid a little too much.
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Considering you can get one is for $5K that hasn’t been wrecked, the math isn’t adding up for me.
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If you can weld then it shouldn't be too hard/bad to fix. I would ONLY buy one with frame damage if it looked like that and were in that exact spot. It's not really a critical point for anything right there since it's in front of the strut mount and it looks like it didn't move. As long as it's just right in that upper corner it shouldn't
be too hard.

I probably would have only payed closer to $3k for it though, you paid a little too much.
I see another crease on down the line outside the circled area. What else is under there?
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I see another crease on down the line outside the circled area. What else is under there?
Pretty sure the spot you're talking about it a crumple zone already in the side rail , could very well be wrong though. Yeah I agree it is a gamble though to buy it without being able to see all of the damage.
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If you can weld then it shouldn't be too hard/bad to fix. I would ONLY buy one with frame damage if it looked like that and were in that exact spot. It's not really a critical point for anything right there since it's in front of the strut mount and it looks like it didn't move. As long as it's just right in that upper corner it shouldn't
be too hard.

I probably would have only payed closer to $3k for it though, you paid a little too much.
Yes exactly what I was thinking like where it took the most damage is where the frame rail got twisted at. That's why I wanted this one because the damage was specifically in one spot that was visible. I do welding I am not the best but I have a buddy who is better then me going to let him handle it. But it doesn't seem like it's a massiave amount of damage.
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Airbags, fender, door, hood, bumper, frame rail, tire looks weird, its red.

I think you fucked up my guy.
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Airbags, fender, door, hood, bumper, frame rail, tire looks weird, its red.

I think you fucked up my guy.
At least that expensive ass head light appears to be fine lol
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Considering you can get one is for $5K that hasn't been wrecked, the math isn't adding up for me.
I mean I was looking for a project car in the first place and do all the car work mostly myself expect the welding because I am not as good at it as others.
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Airbags, fender, door, hood, bumper, frame rail, tire looks weird, its red.

I think you fucked up my guy.
I can replace all that myself. I don't intend to let anyone else work do any work on it besides the frame rail lol
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But hey if its a project have at it and have fun, I am actually buying a boat for the pandemic to work on and will probably lose my ass on it, but at least it floats and is kind of fun.
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you know what, instead of being my usual pessimistic self let us know how the rebuild goes 0P!
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YES. A BOAT. Make sure to give us progress on bimmer post ! Can't wait to see it !☺️
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you know what, instead of being my usual pessimistic self let us know how the rebuild goes 0P!
Yup ! Gotta stay positive! I kinda knew I was gonna get flamed anyways but I just wanted to hear opinions on the frame rail 😂
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YES. A BOAT. Make sure to give us progress on bimmer post ! Can't wait to see it !☺️
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