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      02-03-2015, 09:08 PM   #287
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So has anyone tried the WMA3000B?

I have:

S6FLA USB-/Audio-Schnittstelle USB/Audio interface
S6VCA Steuerung Combox Control for Combox

Will this work?

Are there any model of E90 that work with the WMA2000? (usb only)?
I'm curious about if the WMA2000 will work, as well? I don't have navi, but have 6FL and Combox, so I would think just the USB connection of the WMA2000 would work. Don't really need the Y cable of the WMA3000B do I? Plus the WMA2000 works with Android.

Anyone know for sure on WMA2000? Thanks!
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Have a question related to the USB. Would like to hook up the viseeo and a usb thumb drive at the same time. Would a usb splitter/hub work to allow this????
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Have a question related to the USB. Would like to hook up the viseeo and a usb thumb drive at the same time. Would a usb splitter/hub work to allow this????
No. The MULF doesn't seem to play nice with USB hubs, it just goes into the mode of the last-connected USB device.
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      02-27-2015, 02:03 AM   #290
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OK so I have noticed the following with the WMA3000b and my iPhone 5s with iOS8.

1.) It seems to always be on and powered up, even if the car is off. Is that the way it is supposed to be?

2.) If the car is set to “iPod/Aux” via the head-unit, the phone will always start automatically playing audio via bluetooth. I noticed with the official BMW iPod/iPhone adapter Y-Cable, it will connect to the phone if you switch it to that input, but it doesn’t auto-play. Is that the intended behavior, is there a way to configure this?

3.) Sometimes when I start playing audio via the Tune2Air, it will play for 10-20 seconds and then stop. At that point, the car switches away from the iPod/Aux input (usually to the FM input) as if it was disconnected. Sometimes trying again works, other times I have to reset the tune2air and or phone to get it working again.
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      02-27-2015, 12:13 PM   #291
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OK so I have noticed the following with the WMA3000b and my iPhone 5s with iOS8.

1.) It seems to always be on and powered up, even if the car is off. Is that the way it is supposed to be?
You actually just aren't watching long enough - the MULF (and therefore WMA3000) might not power down for up to a half hour after the car is unused, just the way the power timing is designed.

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2.) If the car is set to “iPod/Aux” via the head-unit, the phone will always start automatically playing audio via bluetooth. I noticed with the official BMW iPod/iPhone adapter Y-Cable, it will connect to the phone if you switch it to that input, but it doesn’t auto-play. Is that the intended behavior, is there a way to configure this?
That's weird - hard wired ALWAYS auto-plays for me. It's the most annoying thing in the world, since A. it tends to take over streaming apps if they don't buffer and play IMMEDIATELY, and B. it always plays the alphabetically first song in your library. I've heard Absolutely (Story of a Girl) about 300 times, but only the first 3.5 seconds.

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3.) Sometimes when I start playing audio via the Tune2Air, it will play for 10-20 seconds and then stop. At that point, the car switches away from the iPod/Aux input (usually to the FM input) as if it was disconnected. Sometimes trying again works, other times I have to reset the tune2air and or phone to get it working again.
That's weird, I haven't seen this one.
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      02-27-2015, 07:02 PM   #292
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You actually just aren't watching long enough - the MULF (and therefore WMA3000) might not power down for up to a half hour after the car is unused, just the way the power timing is designed.



That's weird - hard wired ALWAYS auto-plays for me. It's the most annoying thing in the world, since A. it tends to take over streaming apps if they don't buffer and play IMMEDIATELY, and B. it always plays the alphabetically first song in your library. I've heard Absolutely (Story of a Girl) about 300 times, but only the first 3.5 seconds.



That's weird, I haven't seen this one.
Hmm good to know. I have also noticed that sometimes it will clip audio. The only way to get it to stop is to reboot the adapter, the phone, or both. Not sure if this is a BMW issue, an iPhone + iOS 8.x bluetooth issue, or a Tune2Air issue.
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      03-11-2015, 06:42 PM   #293
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Just got my WMA1000 today and was expecting to plug it in and work perfectly right away... I was wrong.

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2008 328xi with CCC iDrive and center console USB and Aux ports
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I had been using the Y-cable with my 30-pin iPod Touch, no problems whatsoever. Songs display on iDrive, steering wheel controls work, good sound quality. Today, I plugged the WMA1000 into the Y-cable and the first sign of trouble was that it wouldnt connect with my iPhone via bluetooth. However, after updating the WMA1000 firmware to 3.2.3 (which, by the way, was a convoluted process that involved me digging up an old Windows XP desktop), I was able to get my iPhone to communicate with the WMA1000. My problem has been exactly that of Turbonium (see earlier in thread ~page 7). iDrive initially recognizes my iPhone through USB through WMA1000 and plays music (without steering wheel controls), then gets stuck on 'loading info from audio device' then reverts to FM. If I switch iDrive back to AUX it only plays through auxilliary input, with no recognition of Tune2Air/iPhone/USB.

The fact that I hadn't had problems with my Y-cable for the past week or so when directly connected to my iPod leads me to believe that the cable is not faulty. I have also tried using the WMA1000 with my iPod touch over bluetooth and my Android tablet over bluetooth. With the iPod (iOS 6.1.6) I get the same results as iPhone; with Android I seem to get iDrive recognition of Tune2Air but no display of track nor steering wheel controls (I think this is normal operation for Android?).

What's the best fix for this? I've read through this thread without seeing anything conclusive. Turbonium had said he was going to upgrade to the Goliton cable but I already have that. I saw Asus389 is using the WMA3000 but is also having some problems with that too. Or there is the official Viseeo Y-cable, has anyone been succesful using that with a WMA1000?

Any help is appreciated. Sorry if I mis-spoke on any of the above points, I am new to BMW and this is my first post so don't be too harsh .
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      03-11-2015, 09:20 PM   #294
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Hey, kferg29, just saw your PM. I ordered that Goliton cable, then got impatient and also sprang for the latest updated BMW version ($$$). I can't remember at this point which one I'm now using, but the unit does work reliably now with either one.

I do remember a point in my struggle where my old ipod 5G was recognized but the wma1000 was not, just as you saw. I'm convinced that these cables are poorly made, that their quality is hit-or-miss, and that if you have this kind of trouble (dropping the head unit connection) then your cable IS probably faulty.

I'd suggest borrowing a friend's 6FL cable or going to your local dealership and seeing if they'll let you test a new one on the spot. SF BMW parts guy (Chris or Craig, perhaps?) let me do that. It worked immediately, and by then I was tired of being without a solution so I just paid the full BMW ransom.
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      03-12-2015, 05:40 PM   #295
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I think I'm going to try the 3000. When I started looking it was 1000s, its time. Are the android/3000 users happy?
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      03-13-2015, 01:34 PM   #296
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I'm convinced that these cables are poorly made, that their quality is hit-or-miss, and that if you have this kind of trouble (dropping the head unit connection) then your cable IS probably faulty.
In my experience, it's totally true - the build quality is awful and the chip inside the cable is almost certainly a low-quality counterfeit, so you can have stability issues related to physical connection problems where moving the cable around causes intermittent function, or stability issues related to what seems like nothing at all.

I've had to open and re-solder my own cable 2-3 times, it's only really stable now that I never touch it for any reason.

Edit: I'm certain Viseoo found this as well and got tired of all the support calls that weren't their fault, hence the 3000 series with integrated cable.
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My setup:
2011 328i non iDrive (center console USB/Aux port)
Viseeo WMA2000 (Yes, this is correct)
Sony Xperia Z3v android phone

My phone works as normal via Bluetooth. When my music is playing via my phone, it lowers the volume automatically to play the voice of my GPS through the speakers. For music I use Pandora, Spotify, and a YouTube audio player. My steering wheel controls (volume up/down and skip track) work as normal. The only thing I don't have is album name/track info.

When I try my girlfriends iPhone, I'll update this post.




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      03-18-2015, 08:48 PM   #298
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Follow up on my situation, for anyone interested.

I ended up getting the genuine Y-Cable from the BMW dealership and it has been working perfectly with my tune2air WMA1000. Shame the cheaper cable from Amazon didn't work but I'm happy now that everything is working
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      03-26-2015, 08:02 PM   #299
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My setup:
2011 328i non iDrive (center console USB/Aux port)
Viseeo WMA2000 (Yes, this is correct)
Sony Xperia Z3v android phone

My phone works as normal via Bluetooth. When my music is playing via my phone, it lowers the volume automatically to play the voice of my GPS through the speakers. For music I use Pandora, Spotify, and a YouTube audio player. My steering wheel controls (volume up/down and skip track) work as normal. The only thing I don't have is album name/track info.
Thanks for the update. I'm still confused when the 1000 should work, and when the 2000 will. Is it based on whether your car's got a Combox thing or not? I've got two cars that I want to get it for.

One is a 2008 E93 without iDrive with the USB port and an Aux under the armrest that looks just like yours (the 6FL option). I don't have factory bluetooth.

From what I've read in a few places, from some pros here, the 1000 is the only one that would work. How did you get yours to work with the 2000? Does a 2011 year car come with the Combox, whatever that is? Would be great to be able to just plug the thing right into the USB port and skip the Y cable...

The other car is a 2010 535 with the CIC iDrive, as well as factory bluetooth, that I need to find out which will work with!

Thanks!

Here are the others I'd read:

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There is a very explicit difference between the WMA1000 and the WMA2000, and if your car uses a Y cable now, the 2000 *WILL NOT WORK*

Perhaps it's the case that combox cars still support the legacy Y cable architecture for the sake of older iPods, in which case either will work, but I don't know if that's true. And regardless, unless you have a combox, you must use the Y cable and WMA1000
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As stated in your thread... you have an "old" 6FL MULF (pre-Combox). You need to get the WMA1000.
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What state are you in? I'm in California and I actually just drove my car to the distributor in Anaheim so he could see which one worked. He tried all the setups they had in my car. The older 1000 (by older I mean the firmware on the device), the newer 1000, and the newer 3000B, all didn't work. The only one that worked properly was the 2000.

In regards to the combo box I honestly don't know. All I know is my car has bluetooth enabled calling which works in conjunction with this device. My phone connects to the car and the 2000 at the same time. It will play music and then switch to my phone call when a call comes it. Once I end the call, it continues to play music.
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Combox, for communications. You haz it. You also have BMW Assist. Hence, the 2000 is for you.
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Combox, for communications. You haz it. You also have BMW Assist. Hence, the 2000 is for you.
Do you mind looking up a couple of posts and letting me know which ones would work for my two BMW's?
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Do you mind looking up a couple of posts and letting me know which ones would work for my two BMW's?
I believe you'll want the 3000 for the E93, and the 2000 for the 5er. I can tell you for sure on the E93 if you post a picture of the trunk with the liner removed. I think the same is true of the 5, but I don't know if the control modules are in the same spot in the trunk.
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Okay guys so read through most of this thread but just want someone to confirm.

I have an 07 with CCC idrive and bluetooth, however I only have an AUX plug in my center console, no USB. This won't work for me correct?
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Combox, for communications. You haz it. You also have BMW Assist. Hence, the 2000 is for you.
My car has BMW Assist (but no longer active), but it has a Continental TCU 1.5 (and voice-only bluetooth obviously). Which tune2air adapter would go for that 3/2010 "2011" e90 with USB and AUX (6FL)? Thanks! I wonder why this is so hard to get right!

And does the WMA3000B work with the WMA1000 firmware, because I see no firmware updates for the 3000-series?
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My car has BMW Assist (but no longer active), but it has a Continental TCU 1.5 (and voice-only bluetooth obviously). Which tune2air adapter would go for that 3/2010 "2011" e90 with USB and AUX (6FL)? Thanks! I wonder why this is so hard to get right!
If you have a TCU and also a USB plug in the armrest, then you've got a MULF, which is to say you need a 1000/3000. I'm not sure if you're asking, though, or if you already know that?

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And does the WMA3000B work with the WMA1000 firmware, because I see no firmware updates for the 3000-series?
That I don't know
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If you have a TCU and also a USB plug in the armrest, then you've got a MULF, which is to say you need a 1000/3000. I'm not sure if you're asking, though, or if you already know that?
Thanks, now I understand that no-6VC = ULF = no combox thing.

Any idea if the WMA3000 steering control plays nice with Android's Spotify?? Because my HomeSpot receiver sounds great, but it is AUX only (no steering controls).

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Any idea if the WMA3000 steering control plays nice with Android's Spotify?? Because my HomeSpot receiver sounds great, but it is AUX only (no steering controls).
It certainly should. Mine does, last I checked. If you want a slightly different solution, there's also this:
http://www.satechi.net/index.php/sma...s-media-button
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