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      11-14-2019, 03:28 PM   #1
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Subframe Bushing Filling Rubber vs Poly vs Inserts vs M3 Bushings vs Poly Bush

I'm trying to see all the options. I saw some solid rubber options from www.suspension.com as well. I don't see why there should be hollow bush when I don't run RFT on my wheels. I carry flat kit.

Does anyone have guide, experience, etc?
Cheapest option is to fill in with RTV style stuff from auto store.

But I can also buy a sub frame, press out and press in before I put the car on the lift.
With salt rust on arms and stuff, dripping and replacing entire sub frame is a route.
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Well the most sensible cheap route is the whiteline inserts. They fill the holes in the bushings with poly. But if you are considering a new subframe and have a press 100% get real solid mounts. They don't increase any NVH.
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Well the most sensible cheap route is the whiteline inserts. They fill the holes in the bushings with poly. But if you are considering a new subframe and have a press 100% get real solid mounts. They don't increase any NVH.
Thanks. I'll consider it. Rust isn't too bad. So I'll see how much time I'll have.
Looking at bushing inserts if the OE bushing isn't too bad.
Just collecting M3 rear arms, rods, wishbones for now.
Their rear toe arm bushings are fluid filled as well.
A bit of 0000 steel wool did wonders to them after the pic was taken.

I'll probably get adjustable for front camber arm.
I bought new OE bushings and will fill poly 60 duro for the front toe arms.
What should I get for front steering bushing? Is there solid rubber?
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I'm trying to see all the options. I saw some solid rubber options from www.suspension.com as well. I don't see why there should be hollow bush when I don't run RFT on my wheels. I carry flat kit.

Does anyone have guide, experience, etc?
Cheapest option is to fill in with RTV style stuff from auto store.

But I can also buy a sub frame, press out and press in before I put the car on the lift.
With salt rust on arms and stuff, dripping and replacing entire sub frame is a route.
With Salt as a variable you most definitely need to take the subframe out of the car.

You should replace the OEM brake lines with SS brake lines while you are in there, if that is something you have ever considered.

A torch & Kroil Oil will be your friend.

You don't need to buy a press. You can make the tools out of black pipe, hardened bolts & washers. Or you can rent the subframe tool from HP Autoworks. The smaller bushings can be removed with this tool.
In fact, it might just do all of them.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F264403044388

I would humbly suggest that you find someone or a shop that can sandblast the subframe so you can prime & paint it with something like Rustoleum.

Biggest thing regarding "which" subframe & control arm bushings to put in their place is really dependent on how you intend to use the car.
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Thanks. I ordered a used M3 rear subframe with bushings.
It looks clean. I'll prep it even more before it goes in.
I'll get a chance to take care of the body panels, too while at it.
Low miles so salt didn't get too far in there.
Wash your cars underside every week in winter, people.

M3 rear toe arm doesn't go to non-M spindle, King pin. About almost an inch too short.

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Also consider to replace the rear sway bar at the same time...
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