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      05-11-2012, 03:14 PM   #67
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Dyno session scheduled for 10am this Saturday...
A baseline would be nice (map 0) as well.
I did a baseline with jb4 disabled and half e85 half 91

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      05-11-2012, 03:47 PM   #68
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who's ready for E85 + meth + FBO 11 second cars?
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      05-11-2012, 04:29 PM   #69
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who's ready for E85 + meth + FBO 11 second cars?
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      05-11-2012, 05:59 PM   #70
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who's ready for E85 + meth + FBO 11 second cars?
I've done that that already with the old firmware

But IMO, Map 3 on this new firmware isn't any different then the old, I'm actually kind of disappointed with it... But maybe its just because the new Map 5 is so freaking awesome! I feel the new Map 5 is just as powerful as Map 3 with meth, and it seems to have a much better torque curve, the power is soooo smooth though out the whole RPM range, and it just pulls hard!!

Now if we could just add meth with some extra boost to Map 5, I'd be in heaven!!
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      05-11-2012, 11:20 PM   #71
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Hey guys,
Anyone here dynoed with fbo + meth + e85 setup?
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      05-11-2012, 11:24 PM   #72
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i will say my fuel mileage is down (not that i care) but im not sure if its all directly from the fuel type or because ive been driving the crap out of it haha
I went for a 105 mile drive the other day with 70/30 mix I only lost 1 mpg on the highway.
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I've done that that already with the old firmware

But IMO, Map 3 on this new firmware isn't any different then the old, I'm actually kind of disappointed with it... But maybe its just because the new Map 5 is so freaking awesome! I feel the new Map 5 is just as powerful as Map 3 with meth, and it seems to have a much better torque curve, the power is soooo smooth though out the whole RPM range, and it just pulls hard!!

Now if we could just add meth with some extra boost to Map 5, I'd be in heaven!!
my 11.81 was on 40% E85 map 3 +7psi, autotuning off on February firmware, have to have 97-100 octane to really make full use of the meth map. Map 5 on 50/50 is great and the seat of the pants feel is very close to full power meth to me, vbox logs indicate it's just a few tenths slower in my 50-70, 60-80 and 60-100 testing.

Wish it ran better in my car, to run it on stock hardware you really need to have LPFP, HPFP and injectors all running at 100%. Maybe if the interest keeps up, we'll get someone to make upgrades to the fuel system to run 100% e85.
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      05-12-2012, 02:00 AM   #74
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why arent people running straight e85? i know if i made the switch i wouldnt want to make sure my mixture was 30/70 or 50/50

i would just want to pull up to the pump and fill with e85
I 100% agree!!!
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I want to run 100% E85!! Somebody please tell me this is possible!
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Just added 2 gallons to my half tank of 93 octane and my car scared me for the first time. I had my laptop in the trunk but the boost gauge looked to be hitting past the 75% fuel area on the way to redline so thinking I'm hitting 17 psi. The station is right near my house also.
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      05-12-2012, 09:43 AM   #77
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Just added 2 gallons to my half tank of 93 octane and my car scared me for the first time. I had my laptop in the trunk but the boost gauge looked to be hitting past the 75% fuel area on the way to redline so thinking I'm hitting 17 psi. The station is right near my house also.
next time put 4 gal to a half tank it only gets better!
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So running meth on top of e85 has minimal gains? Would it make more sense to upgrade my IC instead of adding meth now that I've got an e85 hook up?
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So running meth on top of e85 has minimal gains? Would it make more sense to upgrade my IC instead of adding meth now that I've got an e85 hook up?
that's what i was thinking and probably going to do..
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So running meth on top of e85 has minimal gains? Would it make more sense to upgrade my IC instead of adding meth now that I've got an e85 hook up?
Get an ic first. Also dont get crazy about running to much e85. You will still need meth injection to run big numbers with a piggyback
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      05-12-2012, 05:11 PM   #82
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Dyno session scheduled for 10am this Saturday...
Any updates on your dyno session?
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      05-12-2012, 06:17 PM   #83
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So running meth on top of e85 has minimal gains? Would it make more sense to upgrade my IC instead of adding meth now that I've got an e85 hook up?
Get an ic first. Also dont get crazy about running to much e85. You will still need meth injection to run big numbers with a piggyback
400 wheel is pretty much all I want/need. I think with a decent ic along with my jb4, dci, dp's and 70/30 or 50/50 e85 mix I should probably be there.
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Get an ic first. Also dont get crazy about running to much e85. You will still need meth injection to run big numbers with a piggyback
Sure about that? Define big numbers and please show a flash piggieback gap. Not saying it isn't there, but I haven't seen it. My friends run JB, Cobb, and the 'cede and I've I haven't seen that gap. With a given boost, AFR, and timing, the numbers will be comparable (haven't seen any evidence Vanos tuning nets material gain).
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Sure about that? Define big numbers and please show a flash piggieback gap. Not saying it isn't there, but I haven't seen it. My friends run JB, Cobb, and the 'cede and I've I haven't seen that gap. With a given boost, AFR, and timing, the numbers will be comparable (haven't seen any evidence Vanos tuning nets material gain).
420whp + you need meth.
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Any updates on your dyno session?
never made it, had to cancel i had a dead battery this morning.

i installed the latest firmware first thing this morning and was going to send some logs to Terry before the session. however, i left my key in the ignition (without anything on) and ended up with a dead battery somehow.

probably a good omen, as i should probably wait until the latest firmware is completely ironed out anyway

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420whp + you need meth.
His comment also had "... With a piggie", implying you could do that on a flash. I'm just asking what is "big power" and where is a custom maxed-out tune comparison showing the flash having a big gap.
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      05-12-2012, 07:07 PM   #88
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its not about who started it or ended it.. its about vendors listening to what their customers want..

a lot of us had been asking for something like this and once we saw Shiv release dyno results and a tune for PROcede E85 we wanted a similar map for the JB4... competition is good for the end users (us)..
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