[Shawnalston10]

Okay guys so I'm pretty much full bolt ons without the intercooler which is coming soon. What are your opinion on MHD stage 2+? Is it really that big of a difference? Is this worth the money? I've been in the MHD forums and all people talk about is the trouble they're having with it. Does anyone have MHD on their 2011-2013 335i that wanna share their experience on it with me?

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

Definitely worth it. I haven't had any issues with MHD since buying it.

[Shawnalston10]

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

Definitely worth it. I haven't had any issues with MHD since buying it.

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

Definitely worth it. I haven't had any issues with MHD since buying it.

Is it a big difference in power once you tune it? My stock turbo just completely maxes out around 6,000-6,500 rpm and I hate it

[fortywater]

Originally Posted by Shawnalston10

Is it a big difference in power once you tune it? My stock turbo just completely maxes out around 6,000-6,500 rpm and I hate it

You have no tune right now? If so, yes, it is going to be a massive difference. Also make sure you have a charge pipe as part of your fbo and I would get your intercooler installed before flashing to 2+

What your feeling is your boost is just falling off on the top end as part of the stock tune. MHD will taper your boost at the top end as well, but boost levels will be overall higher. You will feel more power on the top end, but you're going to feel huge torque gains down low.

Here is a decent representation of what you can expect: https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1604801

You're still going to drop power at 5,500-6,000 RPM (see the dyno sheet). Notice the massive torque gains over stock as well. Keep in mind the results are to the wheels. You might be able to overcome some of that drop-off with a custom tune, but the real way to get around it is an upgraded turbo.

[TheGoodTheBadTheUgly]

Going FBO without a tune is leaving the car stock lol. There is absolutly no point running FBO without a tune. FBO are support mods so you can go ahead and push the car more by tuning it, other than that they are useless.

JB4 or MHD would be your way to go. I have run MHD for a while now and it does have small hiccups but nothing big enough that would push me to stay stock.

[Shawnalston10]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

Going FBO without a tune ia leaving the car stock lol. There is absolutly no point running FBO without a tune. FBO are support mods so you can go ahead and push the car more by tuning it, other than that they are useless.

JB4 or MHD would be your way to go.

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

Going FBO without a tune ia leaving the car stock lol. There is absolutly no point running FBO without a tune. FBO are support mods so you can go ahead and push the car more by tuning it, other than that they are useless.

JB4 or MHD would be your way to go.

I've known this whole time that I'm tuning my car I just wanted to see people opinions on MHD

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

Originally Posted by Shawnalston10

Is it a big difference in power once you tune it? My stock turbo just completely maxes out around 6,000-6,500 rpm and I hate it

You'll definitely notice it. It's a significant change in power.

[starbuck]

If you want a dialed in tune for your car, go with a custom tune instead of OTS.

[fortywater]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

Going FBO without a tune is leaving the car stock lol. There is absolutly no point running FBO without a tune. FBO are support mods so you can go ahead and push the car more by tuning it, other than that they are useless.

JB4 or MHD would be your way to go. I have run MHD for a while now and it does have small hiccups but nothing big enough that would push me to stay stock.

Curious, what "small hiccups" are you experiencing? I am looking on buying MHD here in the next couple of months and I hear lots of different things from lots of different people. Are you getting rough cold start idle etc? Appreciate your input!

[TheGoodTheBadTheUgly]

Originally Posted by fortywater

Curious, what "small hiccups" are you experiencing? I am looking on buying MHD here in the next couple of months and I hear lots of different things from lots of different people. Are you getting rough cold start idle etc? Appreciate your input!

The thing is a lot of us run the OTS maps which are maps designed for the majority or general of case of 335s.

But every vehicle is slightly different so sometimes these OTS maps are not optimized for the vehicle and you need to get some custom tuning.

The small hiccups are some slight problems that most of the time requires fine tuning like: rough idle, burbles not working uniformally for everyone, boost not being as smooth as the targettes curve, etc.

[anjuna]

Let me know if you'd like to be one of the few running my maps.

These are no-cost maps (I am not selling anything). I have one that will be a little more impressive than than the MHD s2+ and I'll help you with a few revisions.

[fortywater]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

The thing is a lot of us run the OTS maps which are maps designed for the majority or general of case of 335s.

But every vehicle is slightly different so sometimes these OTS maps are not optimized for the vehicle and you need to get some custom tuning.

The small hiccups are some slight problems that most of the time requires fine tuning like: rough idle, burbles not working uniformally for everyone, boost not being as smooth as the targettes curve, etc.

Word. Thanks for the response!