[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Ah
If it were me, I'd avoid the Falken 452s as well - good budget tyre, good grip in the dry, but outclassed in the wet (IMO) and I don't think it's that great an idea for a 300+bhp car.

Sorry Tony can't agree with that, they're great on 306 BHP motor

[HighlandPete]

I find the Falken a superb tyre on my 3-series, still amazed how good they are wet or dry. My only concern is how they will do when down to about 4mm, as I've read some complain they lose performance, part way through their life. Seems they harden more than some tyres when worked hard, so performance may drop off for the more aggressive user.

I'd also be a bit concerned putting them on a 645, but only based on the hardening factor. I've used the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (chosen for the wet weather performance) and the performance of the Falken is up there with the F1 for wet weather driving.

HighlandPete

[Jeff123]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

It's a fair point re paying the extra for the extra grip. Most of the driving I do is on Motorways. I do like to drive enthusiastically on the odd occasion though ;-)

My question is - Will the 452's give me similar or better/worse grip than the old school Bridgstone rft's I have on. RFT = £1200 vs 452 for £600

Hi

On the Bridgestone RFT's my rear wheels spun regularly when starting off. On Falkens, they have not spun once in 4000 miles.

[- Paul -]

Cheers for the further ideas. I've just got up. More research to be done!

[m1bjr]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

My only concern is how they will do when down to about 4mm, as I've read some complain they lose performance, part way through their life.

Seems they harden more than some tyres when worked hard, so performance may drop off for the more aggressive user

FWIW, overheating any tyres will cure them further, normally hardening them.
I did this to Michellin PS2 on the Renault at Spa, where it was 28c ambient and sunny all weekend.
They were awful at Rockingham afterwards and I swapped them straight away.

[- Paul -]

Falken FK-452 245/40 ZR19 98Y XL Rim flange protection price £ 156.40
Pirelli P ZERO ROSSO Direzionale 245/40 ZR19 98Y XL BSW price £ 222.70
Goodyear EAGLE F1 Asymmetric 245/40 R19 98Y XL BSW asymmetric price £ 183.90


Falken FK-452 275/35 ZR19 96Y BSW, Rim flange protection price £ 156.50
Pirelli P ZERO ROSSO Asimmetrico 275/35 ZR19 100Y XL BSW price £ 215.00
Goodyear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 275/35 R19 96Y VSB BSW price £ 208.50

Falken £625.6
Pirelli £875.4
Goodyear £784.8

Goodyear's looking good!..


The Goodyear GSD3 tyre has been voted number one tyre in the market by Auto Express magazine. With its V shape tread this tyre is built for performance first and everything else second! This tyre is leading the way in technology with its OneTRED design combines three distinct patterns in the tread design to enhance dry and wet performance. Our customers report that the life they get out of this tyre is above anything they had previously expected.

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

Falken FK-452 245/40 ZR19 98Y XL Rim flange protection price £ 156.40
Pirelli P ZERO ROSSO Direzionale 245/40 ZR19 98Y XL BSW price £ 222.70
Goodyear EAGLE F1 Asymmetric 245/40 R19 98Y XL BSW asymmetric price £ 183.90


Falken FK-452 275/35 ZR19 96Y BSW, Rim flange protection price £ 156.50
Pirelli P ZERO ROSSO Asimmetrico 275/35 ZR19 100Y XL BSW price £ 215.00
Goodyear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 275/35 R19 96Y VSB BSW price £ 208.50

Falken £625.6
Pirelli £875.4
Goodyear £784.8

Goodyear's looking good!..


The Goodyear GSD3 tyre has been voted number one tyre in the market by Auto Express magazine. With its V shape tread this tyre is built for performance first and everything else second! This tyre is leading the way in technology with its OneTRED design combines three distinct patterns in the tread design to enhance dry and wet performance. Our customers report that the life they get out of this tyre is above anything they had previously expected.

Blackcircles.com will do a set of Pirelli PZeros (Directionale and Assimetrico) for £849.50 delivered and fitted at your local Centurion tyre garage in Clifton Manor.

[creepy coupe]

My Falkens don't have rim protection, well if they do it's next useless.

[- Paul -]

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Blackcircles.com will do a set of Pirelli PZeros (Directionale and Assimetrico) for £849.50 delivered and fitted at your local Centurion tyre garage in Clifton Manor.

Do you think I'll be better off with the Pirelli's vs the Goodyears then?

Just a bit wary of the old Pirelli's which were crap weren't they?

[E92Fan]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

Do you think I'll be better off with the Pirelli's vs the Goodyears then?

Just a bit wary of the old Pirelli's which were crap weren't they?

The old Pirelli's weren't so good. The new ones though are really really good, especially now they do the full bespoke system of Direzionale and Assimetrico. If it weren't for the Continental 5Ps, I'd have gone for the Michelin PS2s (at £1100 unfortunately) and if I didn't want to spend that much, then the Pirelli's at £800-odd. Nothing else would have come into the equation for me.

[- Paul -]

I need to use the car this weekend so just went out to measure the wear.

FL
5 - 6 - 6 - 6

FR
5.5 - 6.5 - 6 - 5

RL
2 - 2 - 3.5 - 3

RR
5.5 - 5.5 - 5.5 - 5

Would this get me through an MOT? 1.6mm is the limit?

[jjbirch]

i would say so, you will just get a warning for the one tyre that needs changing buts thats it really,have a good look around for rust too, its a killer on 6 series lol

[ed335d]

Have you thought about Vredestein?

£831 including delivery on Camskill

[willhollin]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

I need to use the car this weekend so just went out to measure the wear.

FL
5 - 6 - 6 - 6

FR
5.5 - 6.5 - 6 - 5

RL
2 - 2 - 3.5 - 3

RR
5.5 - 5.5 - 5.5 - 5

Would this get me through an MOT? 1.6mm is the limit?

Thought you were getting rid of the car anyway Paul?

Why not just replace the rear that is getting low?

[- Paul -]

Still can't decide whether to replace (the car) or not - need to do some more sums.

That said - I've sourced a part worn rft which has 4.5mm left

[- Paul -]

Originally Posted by ed335d

Have you thought about Vredestein?

£831 including delivery on Camskill

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vr...c-Sessanta.htm

These?

Look good.

[ed335d]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Vr...c-Sessanta.htm

These?

Look good.

Yup - I've also got their Wintrac's for my winter set-up

[Statler]

Just my tuppenceworth:

I ran a set of 17" Goodyear EAGLE F1 GS-D3's on my old e36 318iS for years, then I took the wheels off and ran them on my e46 320d for a year and they are still in the garage but very well worn.
I reckon I got 30,000 miles out of them and I can't throw them out, they were probably the best set of tyres I've ever bought. In fact, one of them has been recycled for the kids ZIP line!!

I ran Conti SC2 and 3 on my Saab 9-3, they really didn't last on the front, 10k was an average although the rears were on the original set at 25K.

I had 18" Pirelli P-Zero Nero's on the e46 and they lasted well, but I didn't like them as much as the Goodyears in terms of wet weather grip and noise.

My Bridgestone RFTs are very noisy and pretty uncomfortable so I'm watching this with interest!

HTH

[- Paul -]

Good job I changed that tyre as it had a big gash down to the metal in it - on the inside edge where it was worn to buggery.

[- Paul -]

Tyres again - Not buying winters as they are a PITA to source for my sizes

245/40/19
275/35/19

My rear Bridgstone RFT's are nearly at the indicator and so will need to replace all 4 to non-rft soon.

My choices

Falken 452 - Hankook Ventus - Conti CSC2 - Toyo Proxes or the most expensive - Michelin Pilot sport 3

I'd like to keep the bill under a grand if I could - most of my driving is motorway. What would you get?

[seanblee]

I'd still be tempted by Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas - £280ea for rear and £240ea for fronts, so £1040 for the lot from Event. CSC2 is a very old tyre, so I'd discount that immediately. I'm not really sure about the rest.

[Hotcoupe]

Originally Posted by seanblee

I'd still be tempted by Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas - £280ea for rear and £240ea for fronts, so £1040 for the lot from Event. CSC2 is a very old tyre, so I'd discount that immediately. I'm not really sure about the rest.

Good call on the Vreds,I've just fitted 2 on the rear of mine, (couldn't get Falkens) I'm impressed with them.

The tyres work out cheaper from Camskill (£734 odd + Del), but you'll have to pay to have them fitted.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b758s32...19_245_40_R_19

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b758s33...19_275_35_R_19