[moses0524]

I apologize if I offend anyone especially owners who think BMW designers and BMW engineers are infallible gods.

I have a 2008 E90 335i which came with those awful push/pull shiters (I mean "shifters") which I can never operate properly, find on turns nor grope out in windy roads. In frustration I upgraded to column-mounted paddles. They use M3/F80 "pull only" paddles mounted stationary just behind the wheel where I can always find them.

From XPaddles.com (15% FB discount so less than $300 for the complete kit).


I love them! They add a new dimension to brisk driving.


Check them out.

[Emilime75]

Would be cool to see how you mounted them and what that all looks like.

Personally, I don't get why everyone talks down the stock shifters. I like them just as they are and have no trouble finding/using them.

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by Emilime75

Personally, I don't get why everyone talks down the stock shifters. I like them just as they are and have no trouble finding/using them.

Same here, are these guys changing positions on the wheel in every corner? They should be right where you need them...

[BSM n54iS]

Cuz race car, duh

But I would totally get the Pedal Haus ones if I had a DCT the black/yellow ones for sure. I like their pedals a lot

https://ind-distribution.com/product...hifter-paddles

[Leucosticte]

cool, although i cant relate with not being able to find them

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by Emilime75

Would be cool to see how you mounted them and what that all looks like.

Personally, I don't get why everyone talks down the stock shifters. I like them just as they are and have no trouble finding/using them.

Installation is pretty easy:

https://xpaddles.com/pages/xpaddles-e9x-installation-guide

[Twix]

I was hoping for a 3 pedal swap. I’ve been duped ��

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by kakapo

cool, although i cant relate with not being able to find them

Here's the site:

https://xpaddles.com


I'm a member of a FB group and have a 15% off coupon.

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by Twix

I was hoping for a 3 pedal swap. I’ve been duped ��

Referring to switching to manual transmission. Im with you but I live in LA so stop and go traffic will get on my nerves but if I lives elsewhere, I would trade for manuals any day.

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by BdSM n54iS

Cuz race car, duh

But I would totally get the Pedal Haus ones if I had a DCT the black/yellow ones for sure. I like their pedals a lot

https://ind-distribution.com/product...hifter-paddles

To each his own... I'd get the M3/F80 paddles any day (which this kit has). Further, if the DCT are so good, why are they not on the M3/F80?

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by Emilime75

Would be cool to see how you mounted them and what that all looks like.

Personally, I don't get why everyone talks down the stock shifters. I like them just as they are and have no trouble finding/using them.

My GF is the only one who likes the stock shifters... with the M3 paddles with the kit with, both my hands need to be on the wheel.

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[Emilime75]

Originally Posted by moses0524

Installation is pretty easy:

https://xpaddles.com/pages/xpaddles-e9x-installation-guide

Yeah, didn't think I'd like that, either. Why are they blue? They look like they were 3d printed, and not well. Wiring exposed on the back side. Just not feelin' it.

[Emilime75]

Originally Posted by moses0524

...with the M3 paddles with the kit with, both my hands need to be on the wheel.

:

I'm as confused as you are by that sentence. Not sure what's so funny.

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by Emilime75

Yeah, didn't think I'd like that, either. Why are they blue? They look like they were 3d printed, and not well. Wiring exposed on the back side. Just not feelin' it.

I like the M blue. Black was too plain. Plus, that's for my 335i, my fast car. I'll probably install the black on my daily commuter, E90 328i and without the extension. Extensions are too showy.

And for $300 for the complete kit, fun factor alone--I cannot stop grinning. And yeah, wirings could easily be hidden or covered, just use your imagination and creativity: think wire sleeves.

BMW is about the driving experience, not "Wiring exposed on the back side" of the steering wheel, who looks there while carving a hill?


Function over form, baby!
Substance over fashion!
Fun over "just not feelin' it"!

And 3d printed or not, the holder is ingenious like Nelson's but more engineered and thought out.

I see your valid points and I feel very different about them. Let's learn to disagree.

[moses0524]

Originally Posted by Emilime75

I'm as confused as you are by that sentence. Not sure what's so funny.

As in I cannot put my right hand on her lap when I use these M3 paddle shifters because both hands are needed to operate them vs the push/pull shiters (shifters) could be operated with one hand hence I can have a free hand to place on her lap... I'm sure I overran that sentence and missed a punctuation or two somewhere.

Jokes are funnier when they are not explained.

[Emilime75]

Originally Posted by moses0524

Let's just learn to disagree

No need to learn to disagree, we simply do disagree. It's all good.

[Emilime75]

Originally Posted by moses0524

As in I cannot put my right hand on her lap when I use these M3 paddle shifters because both hands are needed to operate them vs the push/pull shiters (shifters) could be operated with one hand hence I can have a free hand to place on her lap... I'm sure I overran that sentence and missed a punctuation or two somewhere.

Jokes are funnier when they are not explained.

Just another case in favor of the stock shifters. I like feelin' up my girl.

[rick100]

If you were on the track or driving prettt fast
Shouldn't the paddles move with the steering wheel to make them easier to find... and i can see those paddles getting in the way when you are turning the steering wheel fast , they are so big that i can see you hitting it somehow at some point and maybe even breaking them.

[Tunafish]

The paddles dont move with steering wheel. But you can just put car in drive if your girls in the car.. Only time i ever use paddles is when logging a pull.. Never seen any other use out of them but i only drive on the street..

But i like the stock look.

[tcphoto]

Slap an M sticker on it and you're good.

[oVeRdOsE.]

Originally Posted by moses0524

Referring to switching to manual transmission. Im with you but I live in LA so stop and go traffic will get on my nerves but if I lives elsewhere, I would trade for manuals any day.

all about timing your stop and go. 1st + engine compression ftw. No need to use brake pedal nor clutch.

Living in montreal, working downtown. probably the top 10 worst traffic city in north America.


edit ok # 12, and you're # 1 lol! you got me : https://www.businessinsider.com/20-n...los-angeles-20

[lowrydr310]

Originally Posted by oVeRdOsE.

all about timing your stop and go. 1st + engine compression ftw. No need to use brake pedal nor clutch.

Living in montreal, working downtown. probably the top 10 worst traffic city in north America.


edit ok # 12, and you're # 1 lol! you got me : https://www.businessinsider.com/20-n...los-angeles-20

As a manual driver in LA, it's not too bad. Like you said, it's all about timing, and leaving a space in front so you rarely have to stop is a good thing. But this only works in LA. Having driven between NJ and NYC for several years, this doesn't work because someone will cut into any space you leave in front.