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      04-04-2020, 12:13 AM   #67
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Quicker than some of you think. This thing kills 0.3 to 0.5% at best.
US mortality rate is currently around 2.5 percent. Worldwide mortality rate is around 5.4 percent.
More like .3-.5%. I've read estimates where they believe the infected rate is 5-10x the reported amount meaning the mortality rate is much lower.
It's not .3-.5%. Look at the data we have, let's not assume the others.

I'll leave this hear for you and you can do the math yourself.
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Quicker than some of you think. This thing kills 0.3 to 0.5% at best.
US mortality rate is currently around 2.5 percent. Worldwide mortality rate is around 5.4 percent.
More like .3-.5%. I've read estimates where they believe the infected rate is 5-10x the reported amount meaning the mortality rate is much lower.
It's not .3-.5%. Look at the data we have, let's not assume the others.

I'll leave this hear for you and you can do the math yourself.
Sure those #'s show a higher mortality rate but when half the country doesn't have reliable testing and the other half are told to stay at home and not get treatment if mild, I'd say it's very plausible that many many more have it but aren't included in those stats.

Either way it's still devastating the entire world but I really do try to be optimistic and think when we have the science caught up the rate will lower substantially IMO obviously
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Quicker than some of you think. This thing kills 0.3 to 0.5% at best.
US mortality rate is currently around 2.5 percent. Worldwide mortality rate is around 5.4 percent.
More like .3-.5%. I've read estimates where they believe the infected rate is 5-10x the reported amount meaning the mortality rate is much lower.
It's not .3-.5%. Look at the data we have, let's not assume the others.

I'll leave this hear for you and you can do the math yourself.
Sure those #'s show a higher mortality rate but when half the country doesn't have reliable testing and the other half are told to stay at home and not get treatment if mild, I'd say it's very plausible that many many more have it but aren't included in those stats.

Either way it's still devastating the entire world but I really do try to be optimistic and think when we have the science caught up the rate will lower substantially IMO obviously
Sure that's definitely possible, but even then I still wouldn't agree on the .3-.5% rate.

Regardless, just a really sad situation. And yes once science figures out a vaccine it should drop down tremendously.
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Curious to know how many anti vaxxers are going to jump on board once a vaccine becomes available. I’m checking names.
LOL. I said the same thing earlier this week.
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Tell that to Iran.
Iran is still cool this time of year.
It's amazing how many people don't realize that? They think Iran is the same as the KSA and Iraq. It's not. They get tons of snow and have many ski resorts. Tehran looks more like Dallas, tons of trees and forests.
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this is just a stupid and dangerous way of thinking.
I didn't mean this as of today, but once the curve starts dropping and the deaths start subsiding, we will move on when the media isn't counting bodies on a daily basis.
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It's amazing how many people don't realize that? They think Iran is the same as the KSA and Iraq. It's not. They get tons of snow and have many ski resorts. Tehran looks more like Dallas, tons of trees and forests.
I agreed with you until you said Dallas. Dallas is flat with far less trees.

Maybe Denver?
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It's amazing how many people don't realize that? They think Iran is the same as the KSA and Iraq. It's not. They get tons of snow and have many ski resorts. Tehran looks more like Dallas, tons of trees and forests.
I agreed with you until you said Dallas. Dallas is flat with far less trees.

Maybe Denver?
Good deal. Was trying to think of a city. Denver is much better.
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Quicker than some of you think. This thing kills 0.3 to 0.5% at best.
US mortality rate is currently around 2.5 percent. Worldwide mortality rate is around 5.4 percent.
More like .3-.5%. I've read estimates where they believe the infected rate is 5-10x the reported amount meaning the mortality rate is much lower.
It's not .3-.5%. Look at the data we have, let's not assume the others.

I'll leave this hear for you and you can do the math yourself.
so for this equation your source uses 1.1 million (or so) as its denominator when in fact we have no idea how many are or have been infected. for example: it can not be known how many infected persons never develop reportable symptoms and we are not able to know how many administered tests resulted in false negatives. in fact, the mortality rate for this virus can not be known in real time and I am suspicious of authorities who claim otherwise.
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so for this equation your source uses 1.1 million (or so) as its denominator when in fact we have no idea how many are or have been infected. for example: it can not be known how many infected persons never develop reportable symptoms and we are not able to know how many administered tests resulted in false negatives. in fact, the mortality rate for this virus can not be known in real time and I am suspicious of authorities who claim otherwise.
South Korea has some of the best numbers because of their extensive testing and has been somewhere in the 1.5% range. In the US, the numerator is just as suspect because patients die before they make it to the hospital or before their COVID-19 test comes back in the hospital. Their death certificates are for a more generic cause. No one is testing the bodies of those who died before they could be swabbed.

I think well before we have a vaccine, testing will pick up in the US this summer. Once we have extensive testing, tracing of contacts and focused quarantine can take place, allowing the rest of the population more freedom. I think we'll see gradual loosening later in June, supported by test and trace programs, but some restrictions for the remainder of the year. Unfortunately, we're still struggling with testing in this country.
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It's like living in a 3rd world country here....no PPE, no testing, no room in hospital, no lockdown.

The other day 39 year old died of corona, he came to hospital with symptoms and they didnt even want to test him or didnt have test kits, sent him home. And we pay for medical care....people in EU dont
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Their death certificates are for a more generic cause. No one is testing the bodies of those who died before they could be swabbed.
This happened in Italy too. People who died in their homes or elsewhere and were never tested did not count towards the total. Hard to say what the full impact of that is on the numbers, but it is certainly not zero.
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I didn't mean this as of today, but once the curve starts dropping and the deaths start subsiding, we will move on when the media isn't counting bodies on a daily basis.
Agree! Just saw a news stories today that mentioned several predictive models now are showing fewer deaths and infections than predicted. Once stories like that are the main thing on main stream media, we will see a major shift in public attitude.
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