E90Post
 


Coby Wheel
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > 335i Turbo upgrade done and in testing phases



Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-11-2008, 03:03 PM   #45
McLuVan
Lieutenant General
McLuVan's Avatar
Vietnam
304
Rep
13,114
Posts

Drives: ///M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Socal~818~

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky66 View Post
I believe those are the stock turbos with internal work done on the turbos
same thing as these
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 03:10 PM   #46
McLuVan
Lieutenant General
McLuVan's Avatar
Vietnam
304
Rep
13,114
Posts

Drives: ///M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Socal~818~

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Biturbo335i View Post
What makes you say this? You have no evidence backing this at all. This motor could be good for 600-700 rwhp, we just don't know yet because nobody has pushed it yet. We will find out soon.
that would be great
hahahhahaa
you're talking about nearly 800bhp
and like 1,000,000 lbs ft of tq
I hope so
but we will soon learn like you said
I was talking about BIG turbos
like
that big
big as in what supra owners put into their cars without internal work
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 03:43 PM   #47
Dr_Dirt
Major
Dr_Dirt's Avatar
United_States
62
Rep
1,476
Posts

Drives: E90 335i 6AT
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DFW

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWhite1015 View Post
Yeah Brian, what do you guys play to do about the fuel system "situation"? Im no expert but from what everyone has said if we want to go above i think 450hp we need to upgrade the fuel system.... but currently because its DPI there is nothing available??? thought, comments, anserws and maybe even pictures of new injectors and a better HPFP????

other then that glad to see we are going to have some options in picking a turbo upgrade next year
In another thread Denis from from GTPRO said they haven't maxed out the fuel system yet...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=46
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 03:44 PM   #48
billspreston
Colonel
billspreston's Avatar
313
Rep
2,251
Posts

Drives: G87
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CA

iTrader: (13)

sweeet
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 04:30 PM   #49
1clean335i
Perf BMW mag issue 147, 159
1clean335i's Avatar
Vietnam
414
Rep
6,803
Posts

Drives: Project Estoril
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (31)

Garage List
great stuff! im looking forward to seeing some numbers
__________________
'13 Estoril Blue 335i M-sport
*Don't PM me!* Message me here- http://www.facebook.com/ProjectEstoril
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 04:33 PM   #50
midlife
ocasionally in crisis
midlife's Avatar
52
Rep
2,358
Posts

Drives: '08 335i cabrio
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ..........

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugs View Post
Sounds Great! What type of Turbo are you using & is it Dual Ballbearing! It would be nice if it could work with the JB Tuners...

+100

ARS is working with shiv,
but there are just as many JB3 guys as proceede.
AT LEAST one of you guys need to work with JB3.

my 2 cents
__________________
If your car isn't scary - it's just not fast enough !
RPI IC / UR catless DPs / JB3 2.0 beta / UR CAI / Quaife LSD / Snow Methanol Injection / VK oil cooler upgrade / Forge DVs /
M3 rear sway / Riss catch can / Paddle shifting 6AT / M Sport steering wheel / Logic 7 / Dunlop Direzza Z1 255/235 /
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 04:42 PM   #51
Gen_E92
Brigadier General
No_Country
118
Rep
3,432
Posts

Drives: slow
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2007 335i  [7.80]
Quote:
Originally Posted by midlife View Post
+100

ARS is working with shiv,
but there are just as many JB3 guys as proceede.
AT LEAST one of you guys need to work with JB3.

my 2 cents
Even if everyone use JB3...it doesn't help if they don't think JB3's hardware has what it takes to control all the parameters
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 04:44 PM   #52
SfValley335i
Colonel
Afghanistan
164
Rep
2,409
Posts

Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: City of Angels

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugs View Post
Sounds Great! What type of Turbo are you using & is it Dual Ballbearing! It would be nice if it could work with the JB Tuners...

GT PRO's turbo kit info
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 04:54 PM   #53
midlife
ocasionally in crisis
midlife's Avatar
52
Rep
2,358
Posts

Drives: '08 335i cabrio
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ..........

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen_E92 View Post
Even if everyone use JB3...it doesn't help if they don't think JB3's hardware has what it takes to control all the parameters
i have no idea with the standard JB3 or even the standard proceede V3 can work well with a turbo upgrade.

but if terry and or shiv want in on this, i am pretty sure they will be able to make something work.

MAYBE without a flash, if a piggy is used, one can still get alot more added power with new turbos....
obviously, it will be less than the 100% power gain from a full on turbo upgrade kit -
but that is still alot better than what we have now - which are small stock turbos being pushed near their limit.

note also that ARS said their first turbo upgrade stage would be new turbos on stock boost....
so i am pretty sure you can throw a piggy back on top of that....we will see.

my 2 cents.
__________________
If your car isn't scary - it's just not fast enough !
RPI IC / UR catless DPs / JB3 2.0 beta / UR CAI / Quaife LSD / Snow Methanol Injection / VK oil cooler upgrade / Forge DVs /
M3 rear sway / Riss catch can / Paddle shifting 6AT / M Sport steering wheel / Logic 7 / Dunlop Direzza Z1 255/235 /
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 05:09 PM   #54
Lane
Several N54 cars, V1,3, V2.0.2, and V3.1
12
Rep
778
Posts

Drives: N54s
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: UK DE GR SW

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen_E92 View Post
Even if everyone use JB3...it doesn't help if they don't think JB3's hardware has what it takes to control all the parameters
Technically JB3 would be ideal for this. As well as Procede V3. They both can control fuel pressure and all the necessary parameters.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 09:07 PM   #55
Brian GT PRO
Brian GT PRO's Avatar
United_States
10
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: Jet Black 335i E92
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fullerton, CA

iTrader: (0)

Hi guys, well to answer a few of your questions here we go:

Tuning, JB3, V3, Dinan etc.? I have been trying to get together with BMS Terry, but he is so busy with production, we are not that important. Next call will be to Shiv., however we ARE working currently on a flash (past 6 months) with a very reputable outfit called Powerchip from AU.

Turbos size. They are not even remotely close to a 16G, I WISH, there is only so much room in the stock housings to machine. What we have is closer to a GT22, which is a HUGE jump from the TD03 micro stock comp wheel. On the exhaust side, clipping and radius were our only options, as they only way to do something other than this was to cut the exhaust housings off, and we did NOT want to do that for obvious reasons (looky loos, prying eyes).

Fuel system and the HPFP, at this moment we're not looking to build cars to become stripped out drag cars, or competing with 1000+hp EVO's and Supras, our goal was to build a powerful bolt on solution for great reliable and fun street warriors. BMW's are not meant to be full on drag cars...It is my feeling that for our goals, the factory fuel system will suffice. We are NOT looking to be the first 1000HP 335i.

Turbos, yes they are stock OEM turbos, which we have cast our own compressor wheels for, machined the housings, installed all new internals, and will provide them on an exchange basis. No smoke no mirrors.

Steptronic cars? We're testing with a Steptronic car at the moment.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 09:08 PM   #56
JB335
Banned
United_States
33
Rep
1,034
Posts

Drives: 335is
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: so cal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW 335IS  [7.60]
Fucking awesome.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 09:27 PM   #57
normtrum
Colonel
normtrum's Avatar
52
Rep
2,225
Posts

Drives: e90 335i, e46 330i
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: PNW

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO View Post
Hi guys, well to answer a few of your questions here we go:

Tuning, JB3, V3, Dinan etc.? I have been trying to get together with BMS Terry, but he is so busy with production, we are not that important. Next call will be to Shiv., however we ARE working currently on a flash (past 6 months) with a very reputable outfit called Powerchip from AU.

Turbos size. They are not even remotely close to a 16G, I WISH, there is only so much room in the stock housings to machine. What we have is closer to a GT22, which is a HUGE jump from the TD03 micro stock comp wheel. On the exhaust side, clipping and radius were our only options, as they only way to do something other than this was to cut the exhaust housings off, and we did NOT want to do that for obvious reasons (looky loos, prying eyes).

Fuel system and the HPFP, at this moment we're not looking to build cars to become stripped out drag cars, or competing with 1000+hp EVO's and Supras, our goal was to build a powerful bolt on solution for great reliable and fun street warriors. BMW's are not meant to be full on drag cars...It is my feeling that for our goals, the factory fuel system will suffice. We are NOT looking to be the first 1000HP 335i.

Turbos, yes they are stock OEM turbos, which we have cast our own compressor wheels for, machined the housings, installed all new internals, and will provide them on an exchange basis. No smoke no mirrors.

Steptronic cars? We're testing with a Steptronic car at the moment.
Outstanding!!
__________________
07 335i sedan | Steptronic | Black saphire | Terra | ZPP | ZSP | Cold Weather | CA | PDC | Nav | OEM Alarm
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 09:31 PM   #58
The_AMG_Hunter
Captain
The_AMG_Hunter's Avatar
No_Country
88
Rep
764
Posts

Drives: 2020 BMW M5 Comp
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO View Post
Hi guys, well to answer a few of your questions here we go:

Tuning, JB3, V3, Dinan etc.? I have been trying to get together with BMS Terry, but he is so busy with production, we are not that important. Next call will be to Shiv., however we ARE working currently on a flash (past 6 months) with a very reputable outfit called Powerchip from AU.

Turbos size. They are not even remotely close to a 16G, I WISH, there is only so much room in the stock housings to machine. What we have is closer to a GT22, which is a HUGE jump from the TD03 micro stock comp wheel. On the exhaust side, clipping and radius were our only options, as they only way to do something other than this was to cut the exhaust housings off, and we did NOT want to do that for obvious reasons (looky loos, prying eyes).

Fuel system and the HPFP, at this moment we're not looking to build cars to become stripped out drag cars, or competing with 1000+hp EVO's and Supras, our goal was to build a powerful bolt on solution for great reliable and fun street warriors. BMW's are not meant to be full on drag cars...It is my feeling that for our goals, the factory fuel system will suffice. We are NOT looking to be the first 1000HP 335i.

Turbos, yes they are stock OEM turbos, which we have cast our own compressor wheels for, machined the housings, installed all new internals, and will provide them on an exchange basis. No smoke no mirrors.

Steptronic cars? We're testing with a Steptronic car at the moment.
are u going to offer an option to buy the upgrade without the exchange program to those of us who want to keep our stock snails for lease reasons?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:00 PM   #59
midlife
ocasionally in crisis
midlife's Avatar
52
Rep
2,358
Posts

Drives: '08 335i cabrio
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ..........

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO View Post
Hi guys, well to answer a few of your questions here we go:

Tuning, JB3, V3, Dinan etc.? I have been trying to get together with BMS Terry, but he is so busy with production, we are not that important. Next call will be to Shiv., however we ARE working currently on a flash (past 6 months) with a very reputable outfit called Powerchip from AU.....
terry literally is in final days of JB3 1.2 beta testing and as you know is starting production: official release for JB3 1.2 is in a few days (dec 15).

with x mas right around the corner, no harm in trying to get him say right after the new year.

in any case, it will make your sales job alot easier and $$$ if you can get both shiv and terry to modify their piggy maps slightly for your turbo upgrade. it could be a win win situation for all concerned.

shiv can probably modify his proceede map via the internet, and terry probably just has to mail out a new chip,

my 2 cents
__________________
If your car isn't scary - it's just not fast enough !
RPI IC / UR catless DPs / JB3 2.0 beta / UR CAI / Quaife LSD / Snow Methanol Injection / VK oil cooler upgrade / Forge DVs /
M3 rear sway / Riss catch can / Paddle shifting 6AT / M Sport steering wheel / Logic 7 / Dunlop Direzza Z1 255/235 /
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:01 PM   #60
OpenFlash
United_States
1736
Rep
17,960
Posts

Drives: A Lot
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by midlife View Post
shiv can probably modify his proceede map via the internet, and terry probably just has to mail out a new chip,
I'm pretty sure actual in-car tuning may need to be involved as well.

Shiv
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:07 PM   #61
Sniz
Lieutenant General
Sniz's Avatar
654
Rep
10,587
Posts

Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ellicott City, MD

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu View Post
I'm pretty sure actual in-car tuning may need to be involved as well.

Shiv
probably a good idea
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:10 PM   #62
OpenFlash
United_States
1736
Rep
17,960
Posts

Drives: A Lot
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Maybe actual ignition timing control as well.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:12 PM   #63
GreenBeret
Banned
3
Rep
358
Posts

Drives: E92 M3 & E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Training

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu View Post
I'm pretty sure actual in-car tuning may need to be involved as well.

Shiv
+1, road tunning will be needed
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:20 PM   #64
Brian GT PRO
Brian GT PRO's Avatar
United_States
10
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: Jet Black 335i E92
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fullerton, CA

iTrader: (0)

Yes, I completely agree. Shiv, just PM'd you.

Outright to keep your turbos? Yes, we will have a program, we need to get that worked out, but to answer, yes we will make adjustments.

I do want to get the support of all tuning solutions for sure, this would be win-win for everyone.
Appreciate 0
      12-11-2008, 10:24 PM   #65
McLuVan
Lieutenant General
McLuVan's Avatar
Vietnam
304
Rep
13,114
Posts

Drives: ///M3
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Socal~818~

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO View Post
Hi guys, well to answer a few of your questions here we go:

Tuning, JB3, V3, Dinan etc.? I have been trying to get together with BMS Terry, but he is so busy with production, we are not that important. Next call will be to Shiv., however we ARE working currently on a flash (past 6 months) with a very reputable outfit called Powerchip from AU.

Turbos size. They are not even remotely close to a 16G, I WISH, there is only so much room in the stock housings to machine. What we have is closer to a GT22, which is a HUGE jump from the TD03 micro stock comp wheel. On the exhaust side, clipping and radius were our only options, as they only way to do something other than this was to cut the exhaust housings off, and we did NOT want to do that for obvious reasons (looky loos, prying eyes).

Fuel system and the HPFP, at this moment we're not looking to build cars to become stripped out drag cars, or competing with 1000+hp EVO's and Supras, our goal was to build a powerful bolt on solution for great reliable and fun street warriors. BMW's are not meant to be full on drag cars...It is my feeling that for our goals, the factory fuel system will suffice. We are NOT looking to be the first 1000HP 335i.

Turbos, yes they are stock OEM turbos, which we have cast our own compressor wheels for, machined the housings, installed all new internals, and will provide them on an exchange basis. No smoke no mirrors.

Steptronic cars? We're testing with a Steptronic car at the moment.
that's exactly what I'm looking for
Appreciate 0
      12-12-2008, 01:12 PM   #66
GeorgeSmooth
Lieutenant
GeorgeSmooth's Avatar
38
Rep
565
Posts

Drives: 2008 E90 335i AT
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: South Africa

iTrader: (0)

What about us RHD guys? Will you have RHD cores to swop out?
Appreciate 0
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:34 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST