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      07-12-2018, 02:17 PM   #23
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why having spare key card when you have phone-nfc unlock option in comfort access package?
It's for us poor iPhone folks. We just got on the Wireless Charging program, hopefully next iPhone will bless us with NFC.
really? iphone doesnt have nfc? i was sure that it has nfc, my vrother is having iph8 and although i never looked for mfc (not using it) and thought it has.. never mind, it eill get on next iph X2 later this year, it has to
The Apple iPhone X does contain an NFC controller and NFC antenna which means it does have 'NFC functionality...
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really? iphone doesnt have nfc? i was sure that it has nfc, my vrother is having iph8 and although i never looked for mfc (not using it) and thought it has.. never mind, it eill get on next iph X2 later this year, it has to
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really? iphone doesnt have nfc? i was sure that it has nfc, my vrother is having iph8 and although i never looked for mfc (not using it) and thought it has.. never mind, it eill get on next iph X2 later this year, it has to
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It's for us poor iPhone folks. We just got on the Wireless Charging program, hopefully next iPhone will bless us with NFC.
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really? iphone doesnt have nfc? i was sure that it has nfc, my vrother is having iph8 and although i never looked for mfc (not using it) and thought it has.. never mind, it eill get on next iph X2 later this year, it has to
iPhone has had NFC since the 6S. That's how Apple Pay works.
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It might be present so check it out.

Apple doesn't unlock all features on Bata.

New Apple Watch Series 3 has it fully as well.
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My 2011 Camry with smart key already turns on the dome light when approaching. Grabbing the door handle unlocks, pressing the black button on the outside of the door handle locks.
You’re also describing how BMW Comfort Access has worked since at least the E90 - minus the lights automatically turning on.

This is even better for people who like to get in quickly, I often have to pull my door handle 2 or 3 times before it registers and unlocks. Would be great if it had already unlocked when I was 5 feet away so I can just get in and go.

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reason for keycard

I think the reason for the keycard is so you can lock the car with the keyfob inside, hidden hopefully, and put the slim credit card sized keycard in you bathing suit pocket and go surfing, for example.

Of course this could apply to many other activities.

Imagine you are at the beach with just a towel to lay on and want to jump in the water - what would you do with the ELECTRONIC FOB? Nightmare.

This way, the waterproof and inexpensive card can be safely zipped up in you wet pocket and away you go.

This is my understanding of the logic behind it.
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I think the reason for the keycard is so you can lock the car with the keyfob inside, hidden hopefully, and put the slim credit card sized keycard in you bathing suit pocket and go surfing, for example.

Of course this could apply to many other activities.

Imagine you are at the beach with just a towel to lay on and want to jump in the water - what would you do with the ELECTRONIC FOB? Nightmare.

This way, the waterproof and inexpensive card can be safely zipped up in you wet pocket and away you go.

This is my understanding of the logic behind it.
I'm guessing the keycard is available if the phone being used is dead. Phone batteries die all the time.
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Wow... my 98 corvette I had almost 20 years ago had a similar function :
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I think the reason for the keycard is so you can lock the car with the keyfob inside, hidden hopefully, and put the slim credit card sized keycard in you bathing suit pocket and go surfing, for example.

Of course this could apply to many other activities.

Imagine you are at the beach with just a towel to lay on and want to jump in the water - what would you do with the ELECTRONIC FOB? Nightmare.

This way, the waterproof and inexpensive card can be safely zipped up in you wet pocket and away you go.

This is my understanding of the logic behind it.
I imagine that it won't be inexpensive. It's a bmw, nothing for them are inexpensive lol.
I had to replace a fender finisher piece of trim on my X4(where the side blinker would be) and it was 100 dollars. For a small triangular piece of plastic. This card is probably going to be pricey.
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The botton diagram shows the new key card and where it needs to make contact on the door handle.
Gotcha. I was more intrigued by the FOB proximity lock/unlock diagram. Will be nice to not have to touch the handle to unlock then open the door especially if I have to access the rear seat first. Can't do that now in my M3 as CA is only on the front two doors....so back and forth I go....
Such an annoying problem. My s4 had comfort access on all 4 doors and it's impossible to unlearn the old habit.
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I'm sure key card will be an option to Comfort Access option
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Bit of a gimmick really. No doubt phone unlock will be down to a few seconds unlock & lock in a relatively short time.
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The welcome lights on approach sound the same as what many far cheaper cars have offered for years, same as the auto lock when walking away.

All I want is comfort access on my rear doors.
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Is this going to be safe?
Does a fish shit in the woods?
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The welcome lights on approach sound the same as what many far cheaper cars have offered for years, same as the auto lock when walking away.

All I want is comfort access on my rear doors.
5 series and above have it.
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I have this already in my Civic and love not having to do any fiddling around for my keys to lock or reaching for the for handle to lock the car. I love this feature.
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really? iphone doesnt have nfc? i was sure that it has nfc, my vrother is having iph8 and although i never looked for mfc (not using it) and thought it has.. never mind, it eill get on next iph X2 later this year, it has to
There's a lot of misinformation here...iPhones DO have NFC...that's how Apple Pay works. Newer Samsung phones that are running the latest Android OS are the only ones that will work with this iteration of the digital key (at least as of now).


This digital key is reliant on a secure element (a computer chip within the phone) dedicated to making sure this handshake can happen without customer information being used between devices. While both Samsung and Apple have one in the phones, Apple has opted to wait until the next iteration of NFC around 2020 before considering to allow it on iPhones. I'm not 100% sure of the exact reasoning behind it.
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