[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by DWR

Mik325tds, do you know if other sensors output can be displayed there? I'm thinking it would make a nice boost gauge!

Unfortunately, I don't know if this gauge can be utilized for more than oiltemp and instant mpg. Sensible_ and I are trying to find out if we can use it for coolant temp. I think that one is much more likely than boost.
It all depends on what the engineers at Siemens VDO thought of when they wrote the SW.
Same goes for the the CIC obviously. But I agree with Torqu3 - it would be awfully nice to have a configurable display like Torque in the iDrive menu.

[335dwanted]

Originally Posted by DWR

TDIwyse just sent me a pic of the sensor. We have both been under the vehicle numerous times and never noticed the little beggar - too funny. So, there you go. Oil temp, level and condition are measured. Lesson is don't question the work of Mik325tds. The odds aren't in your favor.

So does this mean if the PIDs are discovered we can monitor Temp, Level and Condition in Torque?

[tryingtobebest]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

Looks like you did everything right tryingtobebest. Which engine do you have? There are supposed to be some engines where it doesn't work (see updated first post).
So far I have only verified it on a petrol 325i with N53B30 engine but it should work with the US 335d as well. I'll verify that today.
What I have noticed on the 325i that it takes quite a while until the needle starts moving. It was about 20min of highway driving. How long did you drive? Did you compare your reading to INPA or Rheingold readings of the oiltemp?

#1: Yes, you should replace all three values as we currently don't know what 0D and 07 mean. It is assumed that 07 has to do with damping of the needle.
#2: That was a misunderstanding. The argument field doesn't change as it is your input to the job. The result window should give you the replaced FF values. Was that not the case?
#3 and #5: In order to execute a job you can either double click the job or press the 1x> icon. But I guess you figured that by now .
#4: No, the checksum is entirely dependent on which values your original read was and which values you chose for the scale division. 4B is correct in your case (note that your next number after the checksum is 33 instead of 1F in my case).
#5(second): "steuergeraete_reset_delay" should also work, but it takes a little longer before the reset performed. Look a little bit more to the top of the list. "steuergeraete_reset" should be there.
#6: Thas was a typo, thanks! I'll update the doc and edit the original post.

Hey, i have early build 2009 335D with M57, Canadian car!

#1 Yes, i drove the car for 40 min or so, if it would of worked it would moved at least a lil!((( I don't have Rheingold but was trying to use INPA but figured out that i have some kind of mistake when i go to Engine-DDE6, 325TDS maybe you have a look HERE - DIY: Setup BMW Standard Tools 2.12 on Windows XP > 10

#2 Also, if i DO not have “steuern_oeltemperatur” can i simply download and add it to the system folder? Or it has to be written onto the program? It would of be a very convenient way for checking this!

#3 Also, can you describe the behavior of the gauge after transformation!??
For example
car fully warm, ignition is OFF where is the gauge?
Car fully warm, ignition is ON, where is the gauge and if it is moving from 0 then how fast?
The reason im asking is because by now i read somewhere that you can change the speed the gauge is moving at!!! I just dont remember where!

[Mik325tds]

My apologies to everyone and especially to tryingtobebest, I just confirmed that it doesn't work on the 335d . Which is very strange because according to the table in the first post it should.
For what it's worth, here is what my original reading of that coding section was:
01 01 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 05 31 00 55 2A 0D 00 00 33 00 52 00 78 00 C6 00 00 00 A2 01 B8 02 15 04 CD 06 6E 03
If you write that back to the Kombi, it should be in its original state and display instant MPGs.

I guess more investigation is needed.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by 335dwanted

So does this mean if the PIDs are discovered we can monitor Temp, Level and Condition in Torque?

Unfortunately, no. As I found out today, the DDE does not provide any reading of the oil temperature, not in ISTA, INPA nor Ediabas. So there are no PIDs for oiltemperature.

[Mik325tds]

I just looked up some old CAN traces and think I have found why it is not working. The CAN database does provide a signal for the Engine oil temp in the message 1DO ENGINE_1, signal TEMP_EOI, but it looks like our DDE doesn't populate that data. It is always set to FF. I guess we'll have to ask our tuners if they can activate that function.

[Yozh]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

What is FLR and HPS? I can help you with the Rear diff lock but would advise against it until you have a limited slip differential.
For a very good guide on how to start coding is to look up NCSdummy and read his guide.
The coding that is described here is not available under NCSexpert though, that's why we have to do this manually through Ediabas(Tool32) jobs.

FLR is an engine power reduction to prevent brake disc overheating. It cuts the throttle based on speed, brake application and e-diff torque vectoring. Should be a parameter something like e84 or e89_FLR or FLR_C0F.

HPS is a brake fading compensation by adding more hydraulic assist based on "calculated" brake fluid temperature. Parameter should be something like e89_HPS.

For the e-diff. If it is coded out, does it still work when DTC is engaged, or completely off in all modes. My impression was that it was off only when DTC is completely disengaged.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by Yozh

FLR is an engine power reduction to prevent brake disc overheating. It cuts the throttle based on speed, brake application and e-diff torque vectoring. Should be a parameter something like e84 or e89_FLR or FLR_C0F.

HPS is a brake fading compensation by adding more hydraulic assist based on "calculated" brake fluid temperature. Parameter should be something like e89_HPS.

For the e-diff. If it is coded out, does it still work when DTC is engaged, or completely off in all modes. My impression was that it was off only when DTC is completely disengaged.

I think this is worth a new topic. I started taking some CAN logs to analyze the E-diff behavior and torque reduction requests by DSC and EGS. I still need to put together some screenshots and post them.
HPS is not listed in our DSC FSW_PSW.TRC. FLR is listed as COF_FLR (with the value wert_01.
Interesting point about E_diff only being off when DTC is completely disengaged and COF_DIFF_LOCK set to wert_00. I guess I'll have to do a couple more logs for that.

[lnxguy]

Stupid question if we've actually got an oil level sensor is there a way to enable in iDrive? I've got it to display in iDrive after coding the CiC but the level seems to be at a default value, I've never seen it change.

[Torqu3]

Originally Posted by lnxguy

Stupid question if we've actually got an oil level sensor is there a way to enable in iDrive? I've got it to display in iDrive after coding the CiC but the level seems to be at a default value, I've never seen it change.

Wondering this too. My iDrive has always displayed just barely above the low line. I (stupidly) went off of that and added way too much oil. When I actually checked the dipstick I was almost 2 quarts too full. Drained it down to just below the full line, and the level sensor hasn't changed at all. Makes me wonder if the sensor is faulty. Gonna see if it changes after my next oil change.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by Torqu3

Wondering this too. My iDrive has always displayed just barely above the low line. I (stupidly) went off of that and added way too much oil. When I actually checked the dipstick I was almost 2 quarts too full. Drained it down to just below the full line, and the level sensor hasn't changed at all. Makes me wonder if the sensor is faulty. Gonna see if it changes after my next oil change.

Same here, it doesn't represent the true oil level. Not worth coding it in.

[Yozh]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

I think this is worth a new topic.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1341570

[DWR]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

Unfortunately, no. As I found out today, the DDE does not provide any reading of the oil temperature, not in ISTA, INPA nor Ediabas. So there are no PIDs for oiltemperature.

Today, I was able to get oil temp readings via Toolset32. Still, that is not going to get it into the Kombi.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by DWR

Today, I was able to get oil temp readings via Toolset32. Still, that is not going to get it into the Kombi.

Really? Which job did you use of which .prg?

[DWR]

It was not obvious. Other options in Testo.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by DWR

It was not obvious. Other options in Testo.

Wow. Yes, that is a bit hidden.
And the Oiltemp actually makes sense?
Why wouldn't it populate the CAN message then? Jarek is on it though.

[DWR]

From what I have been able to discern. There are parameters that are specific to CAN. Oil temp has a separate parameter (loCAN), ID 0X01BA. It is not the same as the parameter in Toolset32. So one possibility is the coding recipe specifies a location for the parameter and that may be different in the 335d DDE7.3.

[Terraphantm]

Originally Posted by DWR

I wish I knew what was actually being displayed, since no one can locate an oil temperature sensor on our vehicles. I believe it is a simulated parameter that is tied to coolant temp.

Oil level sensor doubles as an oil temp sensor

[DWR]

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

Oil level sensor doubles as an oil temp sensor

Actually, it does triple duty. Also monitors oil condition.

[vishnurpatel]

sorry to open an old thred, anyone know how i can find if my uk spec 335d is pulling oil temp, from my digging around in inpa, and carly monitoring app i cant see a real value anywhere?

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by vishnurpatel

sorry to open an old thred, anyone know how i can find if my uk spec 335d is pulling oil temp, from my digging around in inpa, and carly monitoring app i cant see a real value anywhere?

See DWR's post with Ediabas job oilniveau