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      05-17-2017, 03:45 PM   #23
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Love to see some pics when you're done !
Will do mate. Pondering the great 265/275 tyre width debate given the 10" wheel width and our sh*te roads.
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I put 275s on my 10s. Good fit.

Mine are 19s. They're advice was pretty good honestly, just make sure you tell them you want it super flush with as much concave as you can get. Koya do three odd depths of concave. My guys even said if it doesnt fit how you like we will get another set.
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I put 275s on my 10s. Good fit.

Mine are 19s. They're advice was pretty good honestly, just make sure you tell them you want it super flush with as much concave as you can get. Koya do three odd depths of concave. My guys even said if it doesnt fit how you like we will get another set.
Do you mind taking some pics of where they sit on yours ? And yeah if you have the offset numbers that'd help as well... they do look very nice ...Australian made as well !
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Ya the shipping is what is turning me off, $500-600 AUD
I bought a set from BM Autosport in the UK, and had them shipped to NZ. I think in NZD it was around $1,800 including shipping, GST and customs charges. They're actually still sitting under my desk at work while I decide which tyres to put on them. I can't wait to get them on the car though - the concave on the rear wheels is pretty nice and the build & paint quality seem good. I'm going to put them on a set of scales before fitting tyres as well, just to compare them to the weights of the OE M359s which I believe are 11.76 kg and 12.12kg.

The set I bought have ET35 front offsets and ET38 rear offsets. They're designed specifically for the E9X series and fit perfectly.
Bloody Kiwis...! I got a really good quote from the guys you mentioned. Thanks!
In the meantime I bought some brakes so won't be buying for a while but there may be some interest in a group buy...
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I bought a set from BM Autosport in the UK, and had them shipped to NZ. I think in NZD it was around $1,800 including shipping, GST and customs charges. They're actually still sitting under my desk at work while I decide which tyres to put on them. I can't wait to get them on the car though - the concave on the rear wheels is pretty nice and the build & paint quality seem good. I'm going to put them on a set of scales before fitting tyres as well, just to compare them to the weights of the OE M359s which I believe are 11.76 kg and 12.12kg.

The set I bought have ET35 front offsets and ET38 rear offsets. They're designed specifically for the E9X series and fit perfectly.

Sweet, looks like BM Autosport UK are the guys to go to for these wheels, pricing doesn't seem to get any better anywhere else in the world inclusive of shipping.

Thanks for the pointer, post some pictures of your setup when you can and I'll endeavor to do the same when I get my set!
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I bought a set from BM Autosport in the UK, and had them shipped to NZ. I think in NZD it was around $1,800 including shipping, GST and customs charges. They're actually still sitting under my desk at work while I decide which tyres to put on them. I can't wait to get them on the car though - the concave on the rear wheels is pretty nice and the build & paint quality seem good. I'm going to put them on a set of scales before fitting tyres as well, just to compare them to the weights of the OE M359s which I believe are 11.76 kg and 12.12kg.

The set I bought have ET35 front offsets and ET38 rear offsets. They're designed specifically for the E9X series and fit perfectly.
Looking forward to see some photos too.
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Ya the shipping is what is turning me off, $500-600 AUD
I bought a set from BM Autosport in the UK, and had them shipped to NZ. I think in NZD it was around $1,800 including shipping, GST and customs charges. They're actually still sitting under my desk at work while I decide which tyres to put on them. I can't wait to get them on the car though - the concave on the rear wheels is pretty nice and the build & paint quality seem good. I'm going to put them on a set of scales before fitting tyres as well, just to compare them to the weights of the OE M359s which I believe are 11.76 kg and 12.12kg.

The set I bought have ET35 front offsets and ET38 rear offsets. They're designed specifically for the E9X series and fit perfectly.
Bloody Kiwis...! I got a really good quote from the guys you mentioned. Thanks!
In the meantime I bought some brakes so won't be buying for a while but there may be some interest in a group buy...
Ha ha no worries!! I think it was Mark I dealt with there - seemed like a good bloke and even threw in some new centre caps and M Sport badges for the little recesses too.
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I bought a set from BM Autosport in the UK, and had them shipped to NZ. I think in NZD it was around $1,800 including shipping, GST and customs charges. They're actually still sitting under my desk at work while I decide which tyres to put on them. I can't wait to get them on the car though - the concave on the rear wheels is pretty nice and the build & paint quality seem good. I'm going to put them on a set of scales before fitting tyres as well, just to compare them to the weights of the OE M359s which I believe are 11.76 kg and 12.12kg.

The set I bought have ET35 front offsets and ET38 rear offsets. They're designed specifically for the E9X series and fit perfectly.

Sweet, looks like BM Autosport UK are the guys to go to for these wheels, pricing doesn't seem to get any better anywhere else in the world inclusive of shipping.

Thanks for the pointer, post some pictures of your setup when you can and I'll endeavor to do the same when I get my set!
No worries mate. The exchange rate definitely helps a little too.
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these look interesting

Do the M359's come in a 9.5 width for the rear ? If not how would the 10's fit on a E90 pre lci.

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these look interesting

Do the M359's come in a 9.5 width for the rear ? If not how would the 10's fit on a E90 pre lci.

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They would fit fine. If they fit the e92 the e90 has more space or so I'm told

Feel free to email them though ?
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these look interesting

Do the M359's come in a 9.5 width for the rear ? If not how would the 10's fit on a E90 pre lci.

Thanks
Not a great photo sorry, but the 10" rears definitely fit. I had a set a couple of years ago on my pre-LCI E90 (same one I have today), but for some strange reason decided to sell them. Now I've bought another set I won't be getting rid of them this time! P.S. The car now has a B12 kit, M3 front arms and dark line tail lights so it looks a bit better. Also has an MHD stage 1 93 tune and loving it! Not sure when I will need a new clutch though...
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They would fit fine. If they fit the e92 the e90 has more space or so I'm told

Feel free to email them though ?

Yeh I have heard the E90 has more space but never confirmed if that was correct.

I think I need a set
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Not a great photo sorry, but the 10" rears definitely fit. I had a set a couple of years ago on my pre-LCI E90 (same one I have today), but for some strange reason decided to sell them. Now I've bought another set I won't be getting rid of them this time! P.S. The car now has a B12 kit, M3 front arms and dark line tail lights so it looks a bit better. Also has an MHD stage 1 93 tune and loving it! Not sure when I will need a new clutch though...
Looks identical to mine (or will when I get these rims)

No rolling of guards required ?

Thanks a lot for sharing and passing on a link
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Looks identical to mine (or will when I get these rims)

No rolling of guards required ?

Thanks a lot for sharing and passing on a link
Nice! Nope, no rolling of the guards required. Actually, when I bought the wheels in the pic (they were second hand) they had tyres on them that were too tall for the 335i (255/35R19 and 225/40R19 - I think the previous owner had these on an M3) and despite this, they still fitted just fine with no rubbing. So with the correct tyres on them, there will be even more space.
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Nice! Nope, no rolling of the guards required. Actually, when I bought the wheels in the pic (they were second hand) they had tyres on them that were too tall for the 335i (255/35R19 and 225/40R19 - I think the previous owner had these on an M3) and despite this, they still fitted just fine with no rubbing. So with the correct tyres on them, there will be even more space.
I just emailed them for shipping price

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Righto

Im at 32 offset front and rear 8.5 front and 10.5 rear. Super deep concave rear.

I believe we had to make the front offset more aggressive as they didnt make my style of wheel in a 9" front.
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Im at 32 offset front and rear 8.5 front and 10.5 rear. Super deep concave rear.

I believe we had to make the front offset more aggressive as they didnt make my style of wheel in a 9" front.
That's a bit different to what a lot of other people are running
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She fits beautifully and doesnt scrub so im not fussed if its different, it works.
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I would die for a set of AG Luxury AGL19's
http://agluxurywheels.com/agl19.html

Anyone know how long it would take to manufacture a new order?
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So, having decided to "never" get rid of my brand new AG M359s, I am now contemplating selling them and moving to something else, but I'd welcome your opinions as to whether I'm nuts. Bear with me....

My rationale for selling the set I owned in the photo was that they were replica wheels, and I didn't like the idea of having replicas on a BMW. Not for any snobbish reasons - more for keeping things 'genuine' if you will. But then I regretted it as they looked so good, so I set about buying the set I now have under my desk.

BUT, now my thoughts turn to weight - and this is where I am undecided. I haven't weighed them myself, but I see others online have done so, and I believe the front 19x9 is around 11.8kg and the rear 19x10 is around 12.8kg. Not 'heavy' per se, but still heavier than the stock M193 18s which are 11.23kg and 11.93kg respectively.

The thing is though, some M Sport 320i and 325i were fitted with the same M193 wheels that I have on my 335i, so if BMW considers it OK to have a 2.0 or 2.5 litre normally aspirated engine turning the M193 wheels, then by that logic the small additional weight of the AG M359 should present no issue for the N54, right? Or wrong?

If you take a 1kg weight, tie it to a piece of string about 9 inches long, and swing it around on its axis, you will see how much it really weighs when it's swinging around its full circumference. It's quite a lot, and clearly a multiple of the true 1kg - how much in reality, well no one can say for certain unless they're a mathematician as it would vary based on RPM. I know this isn't strictly accurate as the weight should be distributed around the full circumference rather than at just one point, which exaggerates the effect, but still.

Further, the Apex ARC-8 in 18x10" which weighs less than 9kg surely means a significant, noticeable benefit. Take that 1kg weight on the end of the length of string and change it to a 3kg weight and it then creates quite a dramatic impact on inertial force.

What are people's thoughts? Should I keep the AG M359 and enjoy the awesome looks, or sell them and go for the ARC-8 in 18x9 and 18x10 and enjoy the substantial reduction in unsprung weight?
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They weigh that much probably because they need to to remain strong enough to take the stresses of being pounded by bad roads. The weight of a wheel has an affect on unsprung weight and this is what more directly affects performance rather than the rotating mass.
It's fairly common to hear about cracked stock rims btw...
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