Will the 135/335 get a form of the M-DCT tranny anytime soon?

pleasanton335 · 11-02-2009, 08:49 PM

Maybe as part of the M package?

Porschefile · 11-02-2009, 08:50 PM

Total speculation but I think it will next model or mid model redesign. That would draw a ton of interest in the new model.

roozie2001 · 11-02-2009, 08:56 PM

probably not. If it happens it would be the next Gen. But i doubt it. Then it would be getting a little too close to the M3 and the last thing that BMW wants is the 335 diminishing the M3s sales even more than it already has. Thats just my $0.02 though

RevC · 11-03-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by roozie2001

probably not. If it happens it would be the next Gen. But i doubt it. Then it would be getting a little too close to the M3 and the last thing that BMW wants is the 335 diminishing the M3s sales even more than it already has. Thats just my $0.02 though

back to the days of underrating the n54 motor..bmw doesn't want anything to jeopardize their M sales..

thatsosm · 11-03-2009, 12:37 AM

I thought that European models had the option of dct. Why not just get European delivery

Bluesummer · 11-03-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alexosma

I thought that European models had the option of dct. Why not just get European delivery

you dont get a freaking Euro spec model car from a Euro delivery dude

marcel b · 11-03-2009, 12:54 AM

DCT is available in Europe since September 2008, but only on the 335i. No other 3 series and no 1 series has this transmission, which is quite strange as it is remarkable good! I really love it and would take it instead of the steptronic every day.

However it is said the in the new 3 series maybe a better automatic will take over... (new 8 gear one)

GreenPlease · 11-03-2009, 03:42 PM

^ I'd imagine that the 8 speed would be the next logical tranny for the 3 series as it is significantly cheaper to produce than the DCT. Plus, reserving the DCT for M models makes them seem "special."

Now that I'm thinking about it, if part count has anything to do with cost and reliability, the 8 speed will be cheaper to produce than the current 6 speed made by ZF. Let's see what the 8 speed has in its corner:
-cost (cheaper than the DCT)
-reliability (fewer parts, torque converter makes life easy on the drivetrain)
-fuel economy (one more gear plus integrated hydraulic start/stop function)

Yep, 8 speed ZF for the 3.

stressdoc · 11-04-2009, 09:56 AM

I had heard that the DCT was seriously considered for March 2010 release (USA -- already in Euro) in E92. Not sure where balance is in regard to new step. If that is ready for 9/2010 then I doubt DCT release for just half year.

i2iSTUDIOS · 11-04-2009, 10:08 AM

the Z4 has it with the N54 engine, it can take the powar!

ss134 · 11-04-2009, 10:11 AM

E92 335i in Europe has the DCT as an option but not on E90 LCI 335i

rismo · 11-04-2009, 10:57 AM

To be honest, I believe BMW is quiting the DCT, at least that was something I read on the web.

Not sure why, but I believe for example that the M5 / m3 will go back to a form of SMG kind of style..

Maybe I'm just wrong, but it somehow triggered me when I read your question...

Maybe somebody else that can confirm or reject this...

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pleasanton335 Private 11 Rep 66 Posts Drives: AW/Carbon 2011 e92 M-DCT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bay Area, California iTrader: (0)	Will the 135/335 get a form of the M-DCT tranny anytime soon? Maybe as part of the M package?
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Porschefile Major 59 Rep 1,250 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee iTrader: (7)	Total speculation but I think it will next model or mid model redesign. That would draw a ton of interest in the new model.
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roozie2001 Just some guy 49 Rep 1,531 Posts Drives: 2008 White 335i sedan Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	probably not. If it happens it would be the next Gen. But i doubt it. Then it would be getting a little too close to the M3 and the last thing that BMW wants is the 335 diminishing the M3s sales even more than it already has. Thats just my $0.02 though __________________ 2008 BMW 335i/Sedan/Alpine White/Terra/Steptronic/Premium Package/Sports package/Comfort Access/USB/Sirius
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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 129 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	^ I'd imagine that the 8 speed would be the next logical tranny for the 3 series as it is significantly cheaper to produce than the DCT. Plus, reserving the DCT for M models makes them seem "special." Now that I'm thinking about it, if part count has anything to do with cost and reliability, the 8 speed will be cheaper to produce than the current 6 speed made by ZF. Let's see what the 8 speed has in its corner: -cost (cheaper than the DCT) -reliability (fewer parts, torque converter makes life easy on the drivetrain) -fuel economy (one more gear plus integrated hydraulic start/stop function) Yep, 8 speed ZF for the 3. __________________ Cars>Women
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rismo Captain 75 Rep 911 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	To be honest, I believe BMW is quiting the DCT, at least that was something I read on the web. Not sure why, but I believe for example that the M5 / m3 will go back to a form of SMG kind of style.. Maybe I'm just wrong, but it somehow triggered me when I read your question... Maybe somebody else that can confirm or reject this... __________________ BMW 335 E92 09 - Full options - DKG - MHD by Buraq - RB Next Gen - RB Inlets/Outlet - Forge Diverter Valves - AR Catless DP - Afe Intake - Helix IC - FuelIT Stage 2 LPFP - Ar Oil Cooler - PPK Water Cooler - M3 Suspension - JRZ RS1 Shocks - Eibach Pro Springs - Drexler LSD - BMW IS Exhaust - Carbon Endurance Brake Pads - Stainless Steel Brake Lines - M101 Wheels - Michelin PS2 - M-Tech Body - M-Strutbar BMW M550i G30 2019 - BM3
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