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      11-05-2016, 03:17 PM   #23
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Drivers side complete!
Couple issues;
- Getting the fender to properly hook around the front bumper piece is tough; had to drill out a few of the bumper rivets and reposition it to get the fender to line up correctly
- The front of the M3 side skirt is an issue with the bottom of the fender; the bubble in the skirt means the fender cover won't lay flat
That's what I was curious about. Looks like the rear should fit since there is no bulge in the side skirt.

Are you planning to keep the riveted look or will you fill and sand to look smooth?

Overall how would you rate the difficulty of install from 1 being plug and play to 10 requiring lots of customization to fit?
Car is wrapped so will just wrap over the rivets.
compared to my old flares it's a 9/10 on the easy scale. I have done very minor trimming to get the fitment I'm happy with.

It really does depend on how mechanically inclined you are; remember that my fenders are all pre cut and welded from the old flares.
That, especially the rear, takes a lot of time.
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      11-06-2016, 03:47 PM   #24
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Another day, another piece done. Rear is now complete;




Fits slightly lower due to the cutout but not noticable.
I may order an OEM M3 rear bumper and see how that fits instead of flaring out my stock bumper.

This week I will finish the fronts and get some complete car pics.
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      11-06-2016, 04:29 PM   #25
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Loving the updates. Thanks for sharing. So they recommended that you push out the stock bumper to meet with the 1/4 panel flares? How is the bumper supposed to stayed flared?
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Loving the updates. Thanks for sharing. So they recommended that you push out the stock bumper to meet with the 1/4 panel flares? How is the bumper supposed to stayed flared?
Waiting to hear and talking with another guy who has the kit on how they flared it out.
I'll update when I find out!
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      11-07-2016, 01:50 PM   #27
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Interesting. Might be an option for my e91 depending on how much work it takes to pull the rear bumper to match the quarter panel flare. Link to pics of your car with the previous flares installed?
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Interesting. Might be an option for my e91 depending on how much work it takes to pull the rear bumper to match the quarter panel flare. Link to pics of your car with the previous flares installed?
My understanding is the rear bumpers are the same from E90 - E91 so it would fit close.
Heres an old shot on the Clinched flares
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      11-07-2016, 03:09 PM   #29
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My understanding is the rear bumpers are the same from E90 - E91 so it would fit close.
Heres an old shot on the Clinched flares
How tough was the install job when you did your clinched flares? jlombar5 and I are planning to do something similar to his car.
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How tough was the install job when you did your clinched flares? jlombar5 and I are planning to do something similar to his car.
Ehhhh. They are certainly universal.
Getting them to fit with the curves of the fenders and such is tough, they are under way more tension than the Hard Motorsports kit.
I ended up not using the bolt holes the flares come with, cut them off and filled them.
Used rivnuts on the fenders and new screws to get them mounted.
That was after I cut all the fenders and welded up the rears.
The other issue with running the 70mm fronts and the 100mm rears is required wheel size and offset to make it look good.
I ended up running 18x11 -29 in the front, which means lots of work to get the inner fender metal to not rub.
In the rears 18x13 - 39 requires a ton of metal to be cut out and I actually had to trim back the rear bumper. Couple that with the squishy rear end in the E90 and you rub a lot.
I switched to super stiff 28K rear 326 power springs to make the rear end super stiff to avoid rubbing, meaning I needed to re-valve the rear shocks too.

Oh and you have to trim the flare if you want the rear doors to still function lol
It took a ton of work, a lot of money in wheels for a fun season. I did love the crazy look and how wide the rear was but it took a lot of time and energy to make it complete.

Mine are for sale for pretty cheap if anyone is interested, just need to get a rivnut insert tool and be brave enough!

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Ehhhh. They are certainly universal.
Getting them to fit with the curves of the fenders and such is tough, they are under way more tension than the Hard Motorsports kit.
I ended up not using the bolt holes the flares come with, cut them off and filled them.
Used rivnuts on the fenders and new screws to get them mounted.
That was after I cut all the fenders and welded up the rears.
The other issue with running the 70mm fronts and the 100mm rears is required wheel size and offset to make it look good.
I ended up running 18x11 -29 in the front, which means lots of work to get the inner fender metal to not rub.
In the rears 18x13 - 39 requires a ton of metal to be cut out and I actually had to trim back the rear bumper. Couple that with the squishy rear end in the E90 and you rub a lot.
I switched to super stiff 28K rear 326 power springs to make the rear end super stiff to avoid rubbing, meaning I needed to re-valve the rear shocks too.

Oh and you have to trim the flare if you want the rear doors to still function lol
It took a ton of work, a lot of money in wheels for a fun season. I did love the crazy look and how wide the rear was but it took a lot of time and energy to make it complete.

Mine are for sale for pretty cheap if anyone is interested, just need to get a rivnut insert tool and be brave enough!


You hear that jlombar5 ???
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My understanding is the rear bumpers are the same from E90 - E91 so it would fit close.
No, E91 bumpers are not the same, sadly.
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Loving the updates. Thanks for sharing. So they recommended that you push out the stock bumper to meet with the 1/4 panel flares? How is the bumper supposed to stayed flared?
Waiting to hear and talking with another guy who has the kit on how they flared it out.
I'll update when I find out!
Talked to Alphabad3 who also has the kit and he spoke to HardMotorsports about fitting the rear bumper; they recommend you unclip the edge of the bumper, pull it out to meet the edge of the flare and use a vertical bolt or rivet between the two to ha e the bumper line up.

So essentially you are attaching the bumper to the flare.
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      11-08-2016, 09:41 AM   #34
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You hear that jlombar5 ???
pretty mean sirdaft1 I did the jdm style 1.5 inch but only looking to do 295s and not those awesome monsters lol
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It's cold and dark in Canuckistan but it's done:






Passenger side fender line-up went way smoother now that I knew some tricks.
Next up is to bring the front down a bit, cut up my mtech lip to fit and get the APR splitter back on.
Oh and probably watch for snow
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Absolutely love the front end of this kit, still not sure how I feel about the rear can't wait to see some more pics!
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Absolutely love the front end of this kit, still not sure how I feel about the rear can't wait to see some more pics!
And proper sized wheels are a MUST. Perhaps some HRE RS100's?
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And proper sized wheels are a MUST. Perhaps some HRE RS100's?
The wheels on the front are what I will be running for the 2017 season but with bigger tires, the rears are just my snow tires.
Those HRE are nice but I'm done with heavy three piece wheels for now.
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The wheels on the front are what I will be running for the 2017 season but with bigger tires, the rears are just my snow tires.
Those HRE are nice but I'm done with heavy three piece wheels for now.
Is this your DD?
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The wheels on the front are what I will be running for the 2017 season but with bigger tires, the rears are just my snow tires.
Those HRE are nice but I'm done with heavy three piece wheels for now.
Is this your DD?
Kinda.
I have another vehicle but like to drive it as much as I can. Plus my work commute is about 7 minutes lol
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Soursamo: DUDE!!! Please find out if the OEM e90 rear bumper would be a clean fit using the rear flares.

I love the OEM e90 m3 rear bumper!!! The replica m3 rear bumpers for the e90 looks like shit and it looks too sharp for the car not matching it's lines.

If you can fit the OEM e90 m3 rear bumper, it would be a game changer!!! It looks like it'll fit because the OEM m3 rear just flares out at the sides as well.
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Soursamo: DUDE!!! Please find out if the OEM e90 rear bumper would be a clean fit using the rear flares.

I love the OEM e90 m3 rear bumper!!! The replica m3 rear bumpers for the e90 looks like shit and it looks too sharp for the car not matching it's lines.

If you can fit the OEM e90 m3 rear bumper, it would be a game changer!!! It looks like it'll fit because the OEM m3 rear just flares out at the sides as well.
It's on order!
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Nice!!!

Theyre stupid cheap on eBay as well.
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Any idea(s) on what kind of wheel/tire specs you'd be looking at?
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