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11-28-2018, 07:32 PM | #89 | |
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"Makes it even more expensive than the S55 unit which is $3200 according to F80 thread. (And Pure S2 N55 is roughly 50% of S55)." You can do the math yourself. I, like many here, patiently waited for months, maybe over a year for the Pure 2. I can assure you that it cost well over 1600 bucks. It is the responsibility of the manufacturer to provide not only bigger and badder, but they must do so responsibly by doing it safely, otherwise they risk serious exposure, especially from loose cannons among us. |
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11-28-2018, 08:22 PM | #90 | ||
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I said that the N55 Pure Stage 2 was roughly 50% of the S55 Pure Stage 2 and that is correct as roughly $2500 v $5000 I also pointed out the VTT S55 GC Dual Turbo was selling for $3200 (ACTUALLY less than $2800) and the VTT N55 GC Single Turbo was more expensive than the VTT GC S55 Dual Turbo which is the opposite of Pure Stage 2. How you got $1600 for a Pure Stage 2 out of that, I have no idea. The new math? You are right...I can do the math myself! But with multiple parts, it appears it was too complex for you. |
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12-02-2018, 08:42 AM | #91 | |
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It has been a Lonnnnnnnngg time now since it was announced you know lol . Hardly any updates at all too to very vague updates which were all stated in initial advertisements would be posted. Nothing much on that still until one maybe recently. Chris it is totally understandable why folks are frustrated about this especially when the advertising(back late 2k17 early 2k18) mentions the great features about the product and how it was projected to come out now this quarter. Soon going into 2019. Chris I think I would have kept this under wraps and not come out publicly until we knew it was tested and finally going to come out like the GC lites were for the N54 and now S55. Just my opinion. The way this was presented really caused a lot of unnecessary hype but that is not to say anything negative about the product. I for one am excited about it. I see Active Auto has not advertised or said much about their N55 turbo kit but perhaps to avoid all this angst. Chris I guess I will still continue to be patient and enjoy my car till you guys get it together. I still have strong interest especially since seeing the GC lite kit for my buddies N54. Nice work! I am only hoping for the best regardless of past rep, Precision turbo went through this earlier on and now has one of the best DBB turbos on the Market. Precision's JB turbos were crap back in the days but now Precision makes good shit! So I believe you guys have something great and improved here hence my anxiousness to try the kit out. Last question ,has the EWG version of the kit been developed yet or how is that going? Carl
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12-02-2018, 08:17 PM | #93 | ||
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Obviously, they were BS. In fact, we have seen estimated timelines come and go.....multiple times. Quote:
According to what was posted on cyber Monday, the PWG is due sometime between this month to end of Q1 2019. So you can do the math if you you believe the “facts” VTT has stated thus far. Furthermore, previous statements would show you add $200 onto the price of the PWG for the EWG. Last edited by IK6SPEED; 12-02-2018 at 08:33 PM.. |
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12-03-2018, 07:02 AM | #94 | |
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I do not see the pricing for the different size turbo options BB GTX30,35 which they advertised would be available in this thread. It is not shown on the website,just the turbo. http://performance.vargasturbo.com/products/ When I priced everything out it came out to a little over 3800.00(includes ceramic coating,ewg wastegate,install kit) but I have no idea which turbo that is paying for and I have no idea if the tune for BM3 is included. Speedtech 3700.00 and I know which turbo I am getting. Speedtech includes a down pipe and has a BB Borg warner turbo as well. Looks like I will be following up with Active Autowerkes then because the timing with this VTT kit is totally off based on what was posted advertised originally. That is disappointing. As I said ,I would have held off on the advertising since it was like a year to one year and a half off. VTT looks like such a promising kit. I'm going to look into the potential of the Speedtech kit too. I think Big boost and AA will be using the same Master Power or something like that brand turbos so that makes me not too excited but going to inquire more, Thanks However Im going to still keep the faith and see wat VTT does. Hate the fact that it might be a lot or a little longer than originally advertised. Not the worst thing that could happen in life but yes frustrating Lmao! The pricing of this kit is very surprising compared to the LOW pricing of their TT offerings when Pure turbos wants 5K for their S55 TT kit That is disappointing.
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12-03-2018, 06:56 PM | #95 |
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It’s not complete they give more info here in post number one.
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12-04-2018, 03:13 PM | #96 |
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The info I said was there is there (pricing and timeline). What they pitched to us in the first post and what they have now delivered to us are (IMO) two very different things. Pricing is on their site for a GTX3076R turbo kit. Timeline is "pre-order." Heck, they were still looking for testers just a couple of weeks ago. There are proven solutions already on the market that frankly offer more for the same money. Personally I'd go that route, but it's your money to gamble with.
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12-04-2018, 06:06 PM | #97 | |
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What they sold users as an 8 hour labor install is actually a 20 hour labor install...adding an additional $1500 to $3000 to the labor. Fact. |
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12-08-2018, 09:43 PM | #98 |
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Not all the steps listed in the EAS post about spline lock crank hub install are necessary -but they are a very thorough shop and do first rate work, I'm certainly not disparaging them -great guys. We charge 10 hours at our shop.
Anyway, turbo is in the hands of the tester. Delays have been because tester has a competitor turbo already on the car, and it wasn't 100% dialed in... tester needed new flywheel (false knock) and PI (ran out of fuel) running it hard so we're helping them with all the ancillaries to get more power out of the existing setup before putting ours on, so it's a fair apples/apples comparison, not other guys turbo vs. VTT with better clutch and better fueling. You guys are going to REALLY like how this turns out, cranky few aside. xoxo Chris |
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12-09-2018, 11:56 AM | #99 | |
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Edit: forum nazi's don't allow links so it's on spool-street under the thread called DIY tuning, just substitute the word and take away the -
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12-10-2018, 05:34 PM | #100 |
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Well stop the hype and get this turbo out man!! Then you won’t have Cranky consumers out here being teased while not giving up the goods!. You have had us at post one Dont like being able to see without touching!!!
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12-11-2018, 06:10 PM | #101 | |
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We were lead to believe you were producing a product that removed the restrictive stock manifold, supplied a good quality journal bearing turbo, utilized parts we already owned (therefore keeping kit costs down) and was capable of another 50-100 whp over a Pure Stage 2 for something close in price. I imagine if you had filled all of the above promises for $2,750 you would have a line of people ready to order the kit. Instead what you have done is produced what will likely be a fine kit at a me-too price point that offers no discernible advantage over what's already available. |
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12-12-2018, 07:39 PM | #102 |
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It's silly that you think that's a stock manifold. The turbo the tester has is a GTX3076R. It's quite a bit more kit than anything else on the market at the moment... but I'll let the test results show that once posted.
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12-12-2018, 08:01 PM | #103 | |
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I'm not sure how this is superior to anything else on the market. This is how I'm looking at it: Manifold: Speedtech Turbo: Draw, but remember that you at least have different options with Speedtech Price: Speedtech especially when you factor in they include some parts that you do not. Performance: TBD We already know the BB and SpeedTech kits can do over 600WHP. I don't see why your kit would not be inline with these numbers based on the turbo spec'd. |
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12-13-2018, 10:01 PM | #105 | |
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Notice VTT also supplied him with PI for this vehicle test. |
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12-13-2018, 10:23 PM | #106 | ||
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12-15-2018, 10:53 AM | #107 |
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Whoa, looks like I am late to the party. WTH is going on in here lol.
As previously mentioned I have a lot of info and pictures on my SS thread. File attachments aren't working for me right now on here so let me figure out how to host some of these photos for those of you who aren't on SS. It seems everyone is clear that this is not a stock manifold, right? Has everyone seen the nice cutaway of the stock turbofold that Speedtech posted a while ago? It's insane. I've completed dyno'ing the car with the current setup (11 135i, DCT, PS2, PFS PI, Injen Intake, custom 3" inlet w/ VS adapter, VRSF 7.5" race IC, VRSF outlet, VS stage 2.5 bucketless DW400, full magnaflow exhaust, catless DP, S55 flywheel, n20 plugs at .022, full 3: upper and lower chargepipes, E54 fuel, 22-23psi at 11.5* timing). The car made 475whp/475wtq on a dynojet at AZ Dyno Chip. The VTT kit gets you a plug and play kit, with a cast manifold that removes the stock restrictions, a stainless turbine housing that removes the stock restrictions, a genuine Garrett GTX3076R, and a new pneumatic actuator that is pre-adjusted (can't tell you how much time I've spent with people trying to get their oem actuator adjusted correctly). As far as the tuning, yes I do a ton of XDF development but to say that no one else will have the required tables is false. I work with MHD and all the reputable tuners and share info. I don't just blast untested tables out there for a couple reasons, 1. they are untested and I don't want someone to blow up their engine, 2. EMP, RFP, etc. New kit will be installed this weekend. Hope to have first impressions the beginning of the week. |
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12-15-2018, 02:40 PM | #108 | |
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Grabbed a couple photos from the other thread. Love the cutaway of stock N55 manifold... so small! |
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12-19-2018, 11:32 PM | #110 |
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No doubt this will be an upgrade to stock however
Two things When will the ewg version come out is the price going to still be competitive or higher than big boost ,speedtech and pure turbo PS2?
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