Anyone tried a Wavetrac LSD?

HP Autosport · 06-08-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by getInline

Too bad this doesn't work for STEP cars, I was all ready to buy.

The late model automatics takes a completely different unit, much smaller compare to the manual trans.

rcracer_tx · 06-08-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

From what I've been reading, there isn't anymore maintenance. It will be the same maintenance as a Quaife.
I feel really good about this product.

Very good news, technology is getting better everyday, requiring less maintenance and working better...

Mr. 5 · 06-08-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The late model automatics takes a completely different unit, much smaller compare to the manual trans.

I knew that the ring and pinion was different but didn't think that the differential was actually different.

Are you saying that Quaife has a completely different unit for the newer autos rather than the older autos?

HP Autosport · 06-08-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I knew that the ring and pinion was different but didn't think that the differential was actually different.

Are you saying that Quaife has a completely different unit for the newer autos rather than the older autos?

Yes.

rcracer_tx · 06-08-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The late model automatics takes a completely different unit, much smaller compare to the manual trans.

What is the date cutoff on the auto 335i's if we wanted to buy a used auto diff and replace the internals of the pumpkin this diff?

getInline · 06-08-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The late model automatics takes a completely different unit, much smaller compare to the manual trans.

Would that be the case for my Sept '07 Steptronic build?

HP Autosport · 06-08-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by getInline

Would that be the case for my Sept '07 Steptronic build?

I will need your VIN and transmission type to verify.

Harold

335e92tx · 06-08-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Why don't you try getting this from them first instead of another company.
If Wavetrac says this then that's something different.

Harold called them before he called me.

Thanks for your help H.

Sparky66 · 06-08-2009, 08:11 PM

Short video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluaaGy0HwA

Mr. 5 · 06-08-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 335e92tx

Harold called them before he called me.

Thanks for your help H.

Interesting because that wasn't the impression that I got when I talked with them.
So I guess the Wavetrac works with all 135i/335i Manuals, and all 135/335i autos except for the newer ones.

It would seem like they would be working on something for the newer Auto diffs if they've already came up with the other diff.

fnckr · 06-08-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

So I guess the Wavetrac works with all Manuals, and all autos except for the newer ones.

Sorry, for the selfish question. So a 2006 330i MT would work fine with this diff? And pretty much any diff currently available for E90s at this point, right?

Mr. 5 · 06-08-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fnckr

Sorry, for the selfish question. So a 2006 330i MT would work fine with this diff? And pretty much any diff currently available for E90s at this point, right?

No, sorry. I meant for the 335i. I edited the post.
330s have different rear ends.

JoeyFiasco · 06-09-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky66

Short video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluaaGy0HwA

no sound on the vid

kenneth · 06-09-2009, 07:06 AM

This is the last mod I have to do! Just received my IC, OC on the way.

So the question is, who can install this on my welded diff (M/T April 2007 build)? Any shop recommendations in the East Coast? And how much am I looking at for the installation.

HP Autosport · 06-09-2009, 10:00 AM

Would be interested to try one, it's disappointing they only have the version for the early 335i manual. Bad choice by them to go into production with that!

I would imagine the performance would be similar to the Quaife, but I didn't see anywhere what bias ratio they promise.

I like the design, and I think the prices looked good. However, the support you would get from Autotech doesn't give the same breadth of product that Quaife has.

Also, I wonder how durable their design is. It's not really proven itself yet.

scheherazade · 06-09-2009, 10:31 AM

It's been used as a front diff in evos for a little while now.

Haven't found a single complaint about it yet. Most people mention how much of an improvement it is with 2 in the dirt (i.e. right or left half of the car off-road).

-scheherazade

Mr. 5 · 06-09-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Would be interested to try one, it's disappointing they only have the version for the early 335i manual. Bad choice by them to go into production with that!

I don't understand why you keep saying that. Won't it fit the early autos as well? I thought you only said that the newer autos were different.

Also, from what I've been finding out lately, it's becoming more and more possible to work with the welded ring gears.

scheherazade · 06-09-2009, 11:30 AM

Depends on the dimensions of the unit.

There are a few Quaife versions that are commonly installed into 335's, each with a different size.
(I believe they were something like, QDF10N, QDF8N, QDF13N?)

Some require a bit of shaving on the inside of the carrier to install properly.

It's possible that the Wavetrac would require some shaving too, if it's actually too large.

-scheherazade

getInline · 06-09-2009, 12:43 PM

According to Wavetrac, the diff will work for the bolt on ring-gear Autos. Hopefully there will be a group buy soon either through WaveTrac or a vendor like Harold!

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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Wavetrac Differentials <wavetrac@wavetrac.net> wrote:

Yes it will fit Steptronic equipped e92's.
It is a direct replacement for bolt on ring-gear models.
Obviously for welded ring-gear diffs you would have to source a R&P.
HP Autoworks may a have a solution for you if you need to source parts (if yours is welded).
Hope this helps,
Thanks
~Wavetrac

-----Original Message-----
From: Me
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 5:47 PM
To: Wavetrac Differentials
Subject: Re: wavetrac web inquiry 16:26:48

Hi,

I have a 2008 BMW e92 335 STEP and my production date is on or after Sept '07 with the following VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.

Would the WaveTrac work in my case?

Thanks.

badass335 · 06-09-2009, 01:36 PM

Just curious on this but does this change the gear ratios etc. I thought that the manual and auto's had different ratios

Also, as the OP posted, has anyone here try this yet? I'd be interested in this but as I have an auto, want to know what's going to change... before i install it on my car (for once

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JoeyFiasco · 06-09-2009, 01:39 PM

any idea how much sourcing the r&p would be?

marcvtec · 06-09-2009, 02:57 PM

wow nice price I'm interested, when I hear some more thoughts and or reviews on this porduct

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Sparky66 Major 58 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: 335 E92 Coupe. Jet Black. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Short video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluaaGy0HwA
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kenneth Major General 125 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	This is the last mod I have to do! Just received my IC, OC on the way. So the question is, who can install this on my welded diff (M/T April 2007 build)? Any shop recommendations in the East Coast? And how much am I looking at for the installation. __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
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scheherazade Major 36 Rep 1,467 Posts Drives: 09 GTR (& 93' accord!) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: DC metro area iTrader: (8)	It's been used as a front diff in evos for a little while now. Haven't found a single complaint about it yet. Most people mention how much of an improvement it is with 2 in the dirt (i.e. right or left half of the car off-road). -scheherazade
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scheherazade Major 36 Rep 1,467 Posts Drives: 09 GTR (& 93' accord!) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: DC metro area iTrader: (8)	Depends on the dimensions of the unit. There are a few Quaife versions that are commonly installed into 335's, each with a different size. (I believe they were something like, QDF10N, QDF8N, QDF13N?) Some require a bit of shaving on the inside of the carrier to install properly. It's possible that the Wavetrac would require some shaving too, if it's actually too large. -scheherazade
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badass335 Lieutenant Colonel 109 Rep 1,948 Posts Drives: 2017 540i Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey, BC iTrader: (10)	Just curious on this but does this change the gear ratios etc. I thought that the manual and auto's had different ratios Also, as the OP posted, has anyone here try this yet? I'd be interested in this but as I have an auto, want to know what's going to change... before i install it on my car (for once )
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marcvtec Banned 407 Rep 2,704 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	wow nice price I'm interested, when I hear some more thoughts and or reviews on this porduct
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