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11-26-2020, 12:05 PM | #24 |
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I personally believe that most cam bearing ledge wear issues are not due to the oil used as much as the use the engine gets before the oil gets up to temperature. I always drive the car easy until it tips over 160F to start revving it over 2-2500
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11-26-2020, 06:37 PM | #26 |
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11-26-2020, 07:07 PM | #27 |
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It's a design flaw more than anything. That's why BMW changed the seal later and made a SIB about it.
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11-26-2020, 07:09 PM | #28 |
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Well the early seals are indeed metal and the later ones nylon but I think some people have had it happen on cars with updated seals too
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11-27-2020, 04:56 PM | #29 |
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Castrol 5w40 from Walmart is what I use. 0w40 burns up for me
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11-28-2020, 03:53 PM | #30 |
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I keep mine below 1500 until it gets over 240F or I've been driving for 2 hours, whichever comes last. I bought this car to completely obsess over oil temperature theories and not have any fun at all. Safety first, second and third!
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11-28-2020, 06:18 PM | #31 | |
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11-28-2020, 06:43 PM | #32 | |
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Modern oils have come a long way, even in the last 5 years. A multi-viscosity synthetic oil like Castrol 0w40 has fantastic cold flow properties. I wait a few miles for my car to warm up on a cold day (5-10 min) then I have no problem running it wide open throttle. All of my used oil analysis reports have come back great with the Castrol 0w40. The E90's cooling system is very efficient, I usually have heat by the end of my 1.2 mile long street, the car warms up quickly. |
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11-29-2020, 12:09 PM | #33 |
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I assume most of these replies using the 0w40 are ignoring the LL-01 rating recommendation and getting the LL-04 rated oil. That should save money the next time I change the oil. Are you pleased with the LL-04 oil? Also what mileage interval are people using. I'm new to these long life oil intervals. I was thinking 5k maybe 7.5k interval. I won't be doing 15k. Not sure the age of the oil but I changed mine the week I bought the car in August and it was sludgy around the drain hole.
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11-29-2020, 12:40 PM | #34 | |
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BMW's latest oil spec is LL-01FE which the FE stands for fuel efficiency, and it applies to mostly 0w30 oils. LL-04 is a spec for their diesel engines. Any oil that carries the Porsche A40 spec will be similar to the old BMW LL-01 spec and is perfectly fine to use in our engines. These include: Castrol 0w40 Castrol 5w40 Mobil 1 0w40 Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0w40 BMW TwinPower Turbo 5w30 Liqui-Moly 5w40/0w40/5w30 And I'm sure there are others. |
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11-30-2020, 12:51 PM | #35 |
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I have continued to use Castrol Edge 0W40 even after Castrol (and Mobil) got rid of the LL01 rating. The Castrol 5W40 now showing up at Walmart does carry the LL01 rating. It is about $22.xx a 5qt (liter?) jug. Even without the LL01, I figure if it meets MB, Porsche and VW specs over the same period, then I would use it.
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11-30-2020, 01:00 PM | #36 |
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I wouldn't worry about the LL01 out of warranty and not going by cars oil change internal. Under these conditions oil weight is more important. Any full synthetic oil with approved weight will do.
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11-30-2020, 01:34 PM | #37 | |
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It's basically so manufacturers have a standard for what oil they want used in their cars during warranty. The N52 engine is not hard on oil, so in theory if you used any good 5w30 it shouldn't cause issues. I'm sure the LL-01 spec was more for making sure good synthetic was used for the extended drain requirements while under warranty. I'm sure there are engineering parameters that come in to play with determining what viscosity to use. For example using 5w20 or 0w20 might cause issues with the VANOS function, so it's important to use the spec'd viscosity, but the brand shouldn't matter. |
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11-30-2020, 04:51 PM | #38 | |
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My factory OCI is 24mo/~14K mi. I put 7K/mi year on my 09 E91. I always used BMW LL-01 5W-30. Couple days ago got $59 oil change offer (includes oil, filter, labour and loaner) from local dealer. They do 0W-30 LL-01 FE only. Dilema: I am not concerned about 5W or 0W. I have some concern about HTHS difference - LL-01 FE is 3.0 (P/N 83-21-2-450-384) - LL-01 is 3.5 (P/N 83-21-2-466-454) What you guys think? On one hand $59 seems reasonable. DIY is not an issue, but oil disposal is PITA in my area. |
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Also, you don't have an advance auto or autozone nearby that recycles? |
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01-15-2021, 09:36 AM | #43 |
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POBEP, the $59 oil change is to get your car into the shop so that the mechanic can do an overall mechanical inspection and generate work. Some dealers are honest and some are not, kind of just like people.
If you get a long laundry list of required work either say you can't afford it, or that you want to get a second opinion. Remember, you drove in to the dealer and you can drive out of the dealer. |
01-15-2021, 09:41 AM | #44 |
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Yeah, it gets that cold here in Wisconsin. Not so far this year somehow. 5w30/40 is a worthwhile choice here.
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