[jmg]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

It's the same thing....

That's one thing we can agree on.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by gjm120

I took the thread as being about Obama and elitists. The initial post mentions others. Generally the wealthy left advocates income equality and the chicken hawk right is ready for war too easily.

The OP uses Obama and Hillary as arguments against Trump criticism. That's what this thread is really about. The right can bash the left so that the left can waste their time debating it while the right goes about their business.

Originally Posted by gjm120

So because someone who defends Trump hits out at Obama you say Trump's a traitor.

Trump's crimes as a traitor, in my opinion, far outweigh Obama's as a so-called hypocrite.

Originally Posted by gjm120

I think Trump is an obnoxious idiot but didn't know that he collaborated with a state the US is at war with.

They don't have to necessarily be under declaration of war.

Originally Posted by gjm120

This is why politics in the US have gotten so screwed up. I'm going to say the sun doesn't rise if someone I disagree with says it does.

According to Trump, you just have to be very very strong in your opinion. Or just lie about what you said.

Originally Posted by gjm120

Looking at your garage list, did this all hit a nerve?

I'm not following.

Originally Posted by gjm120

I need to stay away from this subforum - it's as aggravating as flipping thru all the news channels.

Agreed.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by jmg

The OP uses Obama and Hillary as arguments against Trump criticism. That's what this thread is really about. The right can bash the left so that the left can waste their time debating it while the right goes about their business.



Trump's crimes as a traitor, in my opinion, far outweigh Obama's as a so-called hypocrite.



They don't have to necessarily be under declaration of war.



According to Trump, you just have to be very very strong in your opinion. Or just lie about what you said.




I'm not following.



Agreed.

You keep saying he's a traitor but if still waiting to hear what he has been charged with treason for?

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

You keep saying he's a traitor but if still waiting to hear what he has been charged with treason for?

But I'm very very strongly saying he's a traitor.

[irishbimmer]

seemed to be on display in helsinki

[jmg]

Originally Posted by irishbimmer

seemed to be on display in helsinki

You could almost see the leash tied around Trumps balls. The world saw who was in charge there. You got to be pretty dim not to... or just a blind supporter.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by BimmerBoomer

Social and infrastructure spending enables the creation of wealth: it is just good business, not charity. American public largesse is another problem with deep roots in your political history; the money could be spent far more effectively. Anyway, none of this has anything to do with hypocrisy.

Infrastructure spending isn't the issue - it's welfare, immigration costs, etc.

Democrats tend to want to use public money to help those with less; Republicans feel its a personal issue of charity.

The hypocrites present themselves as generous- but the reality is they're generous with everyone else's money.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by lemetier

The actual comments and that article's interpretation are umm...vastly different. Definitely explains the outlandish and misguided views you've formed.

Weren't you the one that worked on Obamacare?

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by lemetier

No it isn't. Cronyism is different from nepotism. Unfortunately DJT is up to his surgically tied down badger fur with both.

Cronyism is better?

Maybe you should ask the Clintons? You pick which one.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by jmg

You could almost see the leash tied around Trumps balls. The world saw who was in charge there. You got to be pretty dim not to... or just a blind supporter.

They had a private meeting, and none of us know what was said. IIRC, so did Trump and Kim - and Kim subsequently released our hostages, stopped nuclear testing, and opened dialogue with South Korea. So no one really knows...

[jmg]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

They had a private meeting, and none of us know what was said. IIRC, so did Trump and Kim - and Kim subsequently released our hostages, stopped nuclear testing, and opened dialogue with South Korea. So no one really knows...

No one knows... which is very nurturing for backdoor deals and corruption. It also dismisses accountability.

[irishbimmer]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

They had a private meeting, and none of us know what was said. IIRC, so did Trump and Kim - and Kim subsequently released our hostages, stopped nuclear testing, and opened dialogue with South Korea. So no one really knows...

It was clear at the press conference-anyone in their right mind was blown away by the things that were said, before and after the could/couldn't retraction.

Oh, and by the way, you cannot name one family or company that has not benefited from the hypocritical largess you so myopically complain about.

[gjm120]

There needs to be just one big "I hate Trump" thread. When Obama was president I got really tired of the incessant bashing. I even had a friend's email directed to junk until he quit sending me all the 'Michelle's a man' type bs.

BUT, the anti Trump stuff has gotten silly. The worst thing that maybe happened with the Russians is that they got emails that showed Hilary cheating on debates, cheating on the primaries and more sent to Wikileaks. And just maybe, maybe Trump had something to do with it. Sorry that isn't a traitor to me as much as I disagree with Trump on a lot of things.

I mean it this time - I'm outta this section.

[bbbbmw]

Originally Posted by jmg

No one knows... which is very nurturing for backdoor deals and corruption. It also dismisses accountability.

Potentially yes, but potentially no.

[irishbimmer]

Originally Posted by gjm120

There needs to be just one big "I hate Trump" thread. When Obama was president I got really tired of the incessant bashing. I even had a friend's email directed to junk until he quit sending me all the 'Michelle's a man' type bs.

BUT, the anti Trump stuff has gotten silly. The worst thing that maybe happened with the Russians is that they got emails that showed Hilary cheating on debates, cheating on the primaries and more sent to Wikileaks. And just maybe, maybe Trump had something to do with it. Sorry that isn't a traitor to me as much as I disagree with Trump on a lot of things.

I mean it this time - I'm outta this section.

Nah, some of us are of the opinion that we do not like what we are witnessing and hearing and we certainly aren't alone. For some, hate does not enter into the picture and it is genuine concern for the country.

[UglyBuzzard]

Originally Posted by irishbimmer

Nah, some of us are of the opinion that we do not like what we are witnessing and hearing and we certainly aren't alone. For some, hate does not enter into the picture and it is genuine concern for the country.

Do you dislike everything about trump? Not one good thing he has done?

[jgoens]

Originally Posted by jmg

You could almost see the leash tied around Trumps balls. The world saw who was in charge there. You got to be pretty dim not to... or just a blind supporter.

Damn..that thought of having a leash tied around the balls is just bad. Really, must not be fun. How does it attach? Like a clip on the scrotum? Just reading this lame thread makes me diverge to this .

[schoy]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Infrastructure spending isn't the issue - it's welfare, immigration costs, etc.

Democrats tend to want to use public money to help those with less; Republicans feel its a personal issue of charity.

The hypocrites present themselves as generous- but the reality is they're generous with everyone else's money.

Maybe read the transcript of Obama's speech instead of reading soundbites and headlines. Obama was saying that the wealthy should donate more to charity.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Weren't you the one that worked on Obamacare?

No.

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Cronyism is better?

Maybe you should ask the Clintons? You pick which one.

Far, far worse, especially when combined with DJT's peculiar brand of nepotism.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by lemetier

No.




Far, far worse, especially when combined with DJT's peculiar brand of nepotism.

You still owe me the gazillion dollars!

[jmg]

Originally Posted by bbbbmw

Potentially yes, but potentially no.

Based on how self-serving Trump has been historically, his blatant dishonesty, greed, and weakness of character... I'd say the chances are very very strong. Very strong. Very very strong. There, did I say it enough to make it true? Yay! I win!

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by Lups

You still owe me the gazillion dollars!

Fuck. Did I take an Ambien again?