335i Engine temp POLL (335i drivers only)- normal spirited driving/traffic/long trips

RiXst3r · 03-22-2007, 10:43 PM

Yet another poll, but this time we should see the difference between oil cooler cars and non-cooler cars.

Several people have noted seeing high temps from normal spirited driving, or long trips, or even just bumper to bumper traffic...

THIS IS A PUBLIC POLL, CLICK THE RESULTS NUMBERS TO SEE WHO VOTED!

In my personal opinion, there is a flaw that exists in only some 335 engines that cause the overheating, and this flaw is made more of a problem on cars without the oil cooler. Personally, I have never seen temps past 255ish... and I do not have the oil cooler, and I have run my car as hard as humanly possible without being on a (real) track, not to mention I am NOT running a turbo tuner!

jbake · 03-22-2007, 10:44 PM

where's the poll?

RiXst3r · 03-22-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jbake

where's the poll?

jeeze, slow down, it was posting

Bama335 · 03-23-2007, 07:07 AM

for you folks with the oil cooler and the MT (or if you're lucky enough to have the Step and got a cooler), what typical temps do you see when you romp on it? Under 265 seems to be the same for both trannys - under 240? 230? Pls post some #'s for comparison

NYBMW335 · 03-23-2007, 07:10 AM

I have a MT no oil cooler and On the track I see temp under 265F, but i haven't had a chance to run it, on a really hot day like 90-100F. I guess i will see later on in the summer.

CoralRedPlz · 03-23-2007, 07:52 AM

i have AT, PROcede and no cooler, and after a good amount of spirted driving in fairly high temps (85*F), i still havent got over 260.

mike fab · 03-23-2007, 08:28 AM

6MT Coupe. Oil Cooler. Runs straight to 225 degrees & I haven't seen it move from there EVER. City/Highway/on the throttle/etc. -- just doesn't move. I don't track the car.

Its been fairly cold here in NJ. Spring just coming to us now. But even on the 50/60 degree days I haven't observed any difference.

RiXst3r ----- I wonder if you would get a more meaningful result from your poll if you lowered the temperature cut off in your poll from 265 to like 230???

RiXst3r · 03-23-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mike fab

6MT Coupe. Oil Cooler. Runs straight to 225 degrees & I haven't seen it move from there EVER. City/Highway/on the throttle/etc. -- just doesn't move. I don't track the car.

Its been fairly cold here in NJ. Spring just coming to us now. But even on the 50/60 degree days I haven't observed any difference.

RiXst3r ----- I wonder if you would get a more meaningful result from your poll if you lowered the temperature cut off in your poll from 265 to like 230???

I wouldnt consider over 230 to be "hot"... over 265 I would consider to be "hot"

Maestro · 03-23-2007, 12:02 PM

I have 6MT, sport package (which means I have the extra cooler) and mine tend around 220 to 230, however, I am in the Northeast and we have not seen many days over 50 laterly. Even on 20 degree days its around 220.

Ryan(e92) · 03-23-2007, 12:21 PM

Ive never come close to 265 and I stomp on my car hard just about everytime I drive it. My mpg avg is 16.1.

Cliffj · 03-23-2007, 12:51 PM

Did BMW start putting the oil coolers on the car at a certain production point, or is this an aftermarket mod?

Cliffj

DrM · 03-23-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliffj

Did BMW start putting the oil coolers on the car at a certain production point, or is this an aftermarket mod?

Cliffj

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42190

Cliffj,
the short version is:
manual with sport package = factory oil cooler
auto with sport package = some have cooler
others = no cooler

DrM · 03-23-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBMW335

I dont think it matters if you have have the sport package, i think it matters on what date your car was built. If before 1/07 no oil cooler, after 1/07 then you have your oil cooler. Please correct me if i am wrong. As i also have 6MT,sport package build date 10/06/06.I looked at the passenger side of my car, and i have the brake vents.No oil cooler.

NYBMW335, I believe that is incorrect. The sport package manual transmission cars have the cooler. I have one and my build date is about a month before yours. I have seen it. Cars with the manual transmission and the sport package having the cooler has been confirmed by multiple other people. So far, all people with the manual and sport have reported having the cooler.

If you don't have one, stuff just got really weird...

shnapper · 03-23-2007, 02:09 PM

Well I got the weird car then, Pro date:1/07 Auto Sport sedan no cooler my car must have missed oil cooler day at the regensburg plant

Either that or it's in
another spot, but I doubt it because it runs warm and it's not even hot here in phoenix yet..........

SfValley335i · 03-23-2007, 02:22 PM

I tested my 335i sedan auto with 01/07 production date. I drove the car in LA traffic in DS mode while rev'ing to 3k in stop and go traffic. It got annoying after 10mins but after a few mins I noticed the temps rising. It got a little above 260 at which point the freeway opened up and got into speeds of 80mph and i got out of DS mode.

Another occurance was after 1 hour of normal LA traffic driving and once the freeway opened up this SC FX35 wanted to play. Went off the freeway into a dead street and let it loose. Once I came to a stop I noticed the temps had gone over or were at 260's.

DrM · 03-23-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnapper

Well I got the weird car then, Pro date:1/07 Auto Sport sedan no cooler my car must have missed oil cooler day at the regensburg plant

Either that or it's in
another spot, but I doubt it because it runs warm and it's not even hot here in phoenix yet..........

shnapper, actually your case is not so weird

There have been several reports of automatic transmission cars with the sports package not having the cooler. There are also lots of automatic/sport owners contacting BMW to try and get the cooler installed. (good luck all!)

What I meant was weird is that NYBMW335 says that his MANUAL transmission car with the sport package doesn't have the cooler either. That would be the first case that I have seen of a manual/sport car not having the oil cooler.

Given the warmer temperatures that some of the cars run, it certainly wouldn't hurt for all of the cars to have the oil cooler.

shnapper · 03-23-2007, 02:39 PM

I guess the next question and thread that should be started is:

Are the cars with the cooler that have the Step Trans actually running cooler? Be a bummer for all of us to beg for a cooler that might not make much of a difference in the first place. From the pics that people have posted it looks like a small little cooler and the spot it's placed makes sense for air flow to it, but also blocks off the brake duct as if it were retro fitted at the factory after the fact. So are the cars with the cooler running any less warm than the cars without it? I may have to pull out my folding chair and white shoe polish. Paint the windows up in some protest jargon and sit with car out front of the biggest dealership in Arizona HAHAHAHAHA!!

AM I EVIL? YES I AM!!!!!!!

Scottz71 · 03-23-2007, 02:41 PM

OK, how do you tell on the physical car?

I have a 335i e92, Steptronic w/ Sport Pkg, production 12/06.

Where do I look?? How do I tell?? I'm not an engine guru but I do want to know...though car has 1600 miles and I've never seen temps go near the high side.

Raider · 03-23-2007, 02:43 PM

I'm guessing not too many of you here ever owned a turbo'ed car prior to this? It is normal for them to be running 30-40 degrees hotter than N/A cars...

Just hang in there till we can get an aftermarket intercooler, that will lower the temp considerably...turbo'ed cars are made to handle the heat so don't sweat it, BMW know what they're doing...

shnapper · 03-23-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottz71

OK, how do you tell on the physical car?

I have a 335i e92, Steptronic w/ Sport Pkg, production 12/06.

Where do I look?? How do I tell?? I'm not an engine guru but I do want to know...though car has 1600 miles and I've never seen temps go near the high side.

Apparently if you look through the lower mesh grill next to the passenger side fog light there is a duct, a brake cooling duct per say. Get on your knees shine a flash light in there and if all you see is the back side of your front brake rotor through the tunnel and no cooler or anything that looks remotely like a cooling device than you DON'T have it.

Let us know, I think you may have it if your car runs dead center on the temp gauge........

shnapper · 03-23-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider

I'm guessing not too many of you here ever owned a turbo'ed car prior to this? It is normal for them to be running 30-40 degrees hotter than N/A cars...

Just hang in there till we can get an aftermarket intercooler, that will lower the temp considerably...turbo'ed cars are made to handle the heat so don't sweat it, BMW know what they're doing...

Your absolutely correct, never owned a turbo, know how they work and that's it. It's the summer heat here in Az that worries me most...........

BLUE LABEL · 03-23-2007, 03:21 PM

can someone take a pic of the oil cooler so as to erase any doubt, i didnt see anything that looked like a cooling unit/pump in the mentioned area but i do see some pipes headed in that specified area when i take a view from top side.

View Poll Results: Which of the following is your expirience.
NO OIL COOLER - Over 265F (normal driving)	6	5.88%
NO OIL COOLER - Under 265F (normal driving)	36	35.29%
OIL COOLER - Over 265F (normal driving)	4	3.92%
OIL COOLER - Under 265F (normal driving)	44	43.14%
I dont have a 335, but I like to vote and post in threads that dont apply to me.	12	11.76%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

03-22-2007, 10:43 PM	#1
RiXst3r 273 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	335i Engine temp POLL (335i drivers only)- normal spirited driving/traffic/long trips Yet another poll, but this time we should see the difference between oil cooler cars and non-cooler cars. Several people have noted seeing high temps from normal spirited driving, or long trips, or even just bumper to bumper traffic... THIS IS A PUBLIC POLL, CLICK THE RESULTS NUMBERS TO SEE WHO VOTED! In my personal opinion, there is a flaw that exists in only some 335 engines that cause the overheating, and this flaw is made more of a problem on cars without the oil cooler. Personally, I have never seen temps past 255ish... and I do not have the oil cooler, and I have run my car as hard as humanly possible without being on a (real) track, not to mention I am NOT running a turbo tuner! Last edited by RiXst3r; 05-18-2007 at 09:56 PM..
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03-23-2007, 07:07 AM	#4
Bama335 Lieutenant 27 Rep 542 Posts Drives: '13 E82 135is '13 E88 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dixie iTrader: (0)	for you folks with the oil cooler and the MT (or if you're lucky enough to have the Step and got a cooler), what typical temps do you see when you romp on it? Under 265 seems to be the same for both trannys - under 240? 230? Pls post some #'s for comparison __________________ 2013 E88 135i B39/LWD1 DCT 2013 E82 135is 416/LWNL 6MT
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NYBMW335 Lieutenant 11 Rep 420 Posts Drives: BMW 335i jet black/black Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	I have a MT no oil cooler and On the track I see temp under 265F, but i haven't had a chance to run it, on a really hot day like 90-100F. I guess i will see later on in the summer.
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CoralRedPlz restless 7 Rep 484 Posts Drives: Space Grey, Coral Red 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: around town iTrader: (0)	i have AT, PROcede and no cooler, and after a good amount of spirted driving in fairly high temps (85*F), i still havent got over 260. __________________ 335i space, coral/gray poplar, step, loaded, but with no AS, AC or rear shade. Front lip painted and installed and springs going on this week. pics coming soon.
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03-23-2007, 08:28 AM	#7
mike fab Private First Class 6 Rep 199 Posts Drives: 335 Coupe (sold) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rural NJ iTrader: (0)	6MT Coupe. Oil Cooler. Runs straight to 225 degrees & I haven't seen it move from there EVER. City/Highway/on the throttle/etc. -- just doesn't move. I don't track the car. Its been fairly cold here in NJ. Spring just coming to us now. But even on the 50/60 degree days I haven't observed any difference. RiXst3r ----- I wonder if you would get a more meaningful result from your poll if you lowered the temperature cut off in your poll from 265 to like 230???
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03-23-2007, 12:02 PM	#9
Maestro Major 1011 Rep 1,268 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Sedan, 2021 X3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	I have 6MT, sport package (which means I have the extra cooler) and mine tend around 220 to 230, however, I am in the Northeast and we have not seen many days over 50 laterly. Even on 20 degree days its around 220. Last edited by Maestro; 03-26-2007 at 08:42 AM..
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Ryan(e92) Captain 17 Rep 705 Posts Drives: SG M6 coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Newport Beach iTrader: (6)	Ive never come close to 265 and I stomp on my car hard just about everytime I drive it. My mpg avg is 16.1.
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03-23-2007, 12:51 PM	#11
Cliffj Enlisted Member 1 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 11 335d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL iTrader: (0)	Did BMW start putting the oil coolers on the car at a certain production point, or is this an aftermarket mod? Cliffj
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shnapper Enlisted Member 1 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2007 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ca iTrader: (0)	Well I got the weird car then, Pro date:1/07 Auto Sport sedan no cooler my car must have missed oil cooler day at the regensburg plant Either that or it's in another spot, but I doubt it because it runs warm and it's not even hot here in phoenix yet..........
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SfValley335i Colonel 164 Rep 2,409 Posts Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: City of Angels iTrader: (8)	I tested my 335i sedan auto with 01/07 production date. I drove the car in LA traffic in DS mode while rev'ing to 3k in stop and go traffic. It got annoying after 10mins but after a few mins I noticed the temps rising. It got a little above 260 at which point the freeway opened up and got into speeds of 80mph and i got out of DS mode. Another occurance was after 1 hour of normal LA traffic driving and once the freeway opened up this SC FX35 wanted to play. Went off the freeway into a dead street and let it loose. Once I came to a stop I noticed the temps had gone over or were at 260's.
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03-23-2007, 02:39 PM	#17
shnapper Enlisted Member 1 Rep 42 Posts Drives: 2007 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ca iTrader: (0)	I guess the next question and thread that should be started is: Are the cars with the cooler that have the Step Trans actually running cooler? Be a bummer for all of us to beg for a cooler that might not make much of a difference in the first place. From the pics that people have posted it looks like a small little cooler and the spot it's placed makes sense for air flow to it, but also blocks off the brake duct as if it were retro fitted at the factory after the fact. So are the cars with the cooler running any less warm than the cars without it? I may have to pull out my folding chair and white shoe polish. Paint the windows up in some protest jargon and sit with car out front of the biggest dealership in Arizona HAHAHAHAHA!! AM I EVIL? YES I AM!!!!!!!
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Raider Panties Sniffer 34 Rep 688 Posts Drives: Stealthy 335Ci Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Isengard iTrader: (0)	I'm guessing not too many of you here ever owned a turbo'ed car prior to this? It is normal for them to be running 30-40 degrees hotter than N/A cars... Just hang in there till we can get an aftermarket intercooler, that will lower the temp considerably...turbo'ed cars are made to handle the heat so don't sweat it, BMW know what they're doing... __________________ Nash for MVP
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BLUE LABEL Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 216 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	can someone take a pic of the oil cooler so as to erase any doubt, i didnt see anything that looked like a cooling unit/pump in the mentioned area but i do see some pipes headed in that specified area when i take a view from top side.
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