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      07-31-2021, 05:47 PM   #221
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Of course he got away with another cheat move with nothing said from the stewards..of course.
Maybe you should look up the rules in this regard.
One of the many reasons HAM is 7x WDC
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Anybody else think RB REALLY screwed up not trusting Max's time on yellows to hold up in Q2?

Should be an interesting start but looks like another easy win for HAM

Probably not a good idea to boo HAM,,,Just extra motivation
Definitely.
I guess they just got a little nervous, but IMO VER's time would have been OK on the mediums.
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Of course he got away with another cheat move with nothing said from the stewards..of course.
His out lap was 4 seconds faster than his out lap on his first run in q3
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Of course he got away with another cheat move with nothing said from the stewards..of course.
Just got a notification from GPToday ...
Currently the article is available in Dutch only.

In short translated in English :
"Red Bull has completely lost the balance in the car due to the new Pirelli rigid (stiffer) rear tires"
That's why the Red Bull was already slower at Silverstone..
The new rear stiffer Pirelli's work better with low rake cars ,like the Mercedes.

The article in Dutch on this page => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...e-achterbanden

I heard that MAX and Checo complained about the balance of the car ..
MAX said later : The car feels unpredictable !
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His out lap was 4 seconds faster than his out lap on his first run in q3
You're barking up the wrong tree to many here. Data and charts are definitely verbotten to the RBR fans. Unless they are making up the data themselves. That's different.
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Of course he got away with another cheat move with nothing said from the stewards..of course.
Maybe you should look up the rules in this regard.
One of the many reasons HAM is 7x WDC
These things are what separates great teams from the good teams regardless of sport. Those who disagree are usually fans of teams where the strategy worked against them.

This is nothing new. Throughout the HAM era, Mercedes have constantly implemented strategies that have got the better of Red Bull. Add this to that list.
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Just got a notification from GPToday ...
Currently the article is available in Dutch only.
I wonder if that strange spin from PER in the silverstone sprint race is also the result of this.
That spin was pretty strange. Of course it was coming out of the corner on throttle but nothing crazy.
I know they were also changing diff settings, but these guys are pro's (both the engineers and the driver), so you'd think that what they're doing is resulting in behaviour that they expect.
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Even in the pitlane ...HAM was playing dirty tricks with his turtle pace !
HAM ran 10 km/h in the pitlane and watched in his mirrors to mess with MAX ! (second video)



Of course he got away with another cheat move with nothing said from the stewards..of course.
Lol so do you want a minimum speed in the pit lane now?
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Another illustration of what happened and that HAM didnít do anything that wasnít done before. Heís far from my favorite driver. Iím actually rooting for VER to win the championship. But we have to be fair and just admit that RBR fucked up by sending him behind the Mercís.
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Another illustration of what happened and that HAM didn’t do anything that wasn’t done before. He’s far from my favorite driver. I’m actually rooting for VER to win the championship. But we have to be fair and just admit that RBR fucked up by sending him behind the Merc’s.
Agreed. They just got it wrong today.
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Interesting Quali. Seems like some panties already in a bunch.

Let's see what happens tomorrow, hopefully some good racing.

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Maybe you should look up the rules in this regard.
One of the many reasons HAM is 7x WDC
Yes they only like to twist parts of the story to fit their half truths.

Max probably wanted a tow, I don't see any complaining about that, but I guess it didn't work out for them so they have to find another excuse to cry about.

Oh yes, now it's the tires. Boo hoo.
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Perez should accidently park his car in Mercs pit box during the race tomorrow. Up the ante a little more.
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Just got a notification from GPToday ...
Currently the article is available in Dutch only.

In short translated in English :
"Red Bull has completely lost the balance in the car due to the new Pirelli rigid (stiffer) rear tires"
That's why the Red Bull was already slower at Silverstone..
The new rear stiffer Pirelli's work better with low rake cars ,like the Mercedes.

The article in Dutch on this page => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...e-achterbanden

I heard that MAX and Checo complained about the balance of the car ..
MAX said later : The car feels un predictable !
Tyres now constructed with Mercs low rake in mind so even pirelli are bowing down to them as well as Mercafia.
Haas and Ferrari flying off the track because of this, the only thing missing now is Masi standing in front of RB pit with a crown on his head saying I will hold you up whenever I feel like it.
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Perez should accidently park his car in Mercs pit box during the race tomorrow. Up the ante a little more.
It happens
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I don't know if this will be a one-stop or two-stop race, but if RB can keep out long enough, starting on the softs wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Of course it comes down to tire preservation and longevity but switch to the MEDIUMS at the right time they could be set for the remainder of the race.
Agree it's a question of timing but there's now another bug in the ointment in that it's been discovered that the stiffer rear tyres suit the low slung Merc more (with RB having understeer that can't be dialled out with these tyres) so I think RB's strategy options and others teams' also with the high rake has been reduced.
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Just got a notification from GPToday ...
Currently the article is available in Dutch only.

In short translated in English :
"Red Bull has completely lost the balance in the car due to the new Pirelli rigid (stiffer) rear tires"
That's why the Red Bull was already slower at Silverstone..
The new rear stiffer Pirelli's work better with low rake cars ,like the Mercedes.

The article in Dutch on this page => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...e-achterbanden

I heard that MAX and Checo complained about the balance of the car ..
MAX said later : The car feels unpredictable !
mate even if its true, that RB affected by this.. what was the reason for stiffer rear tires? ironically because of Max's puncture in Baku.. so this change is for RB to avoid such incidents.. let them be safe..

besides.. floor rule for this year directly hit Merc'.. RB benefited from it anyway..
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Looks like a wet track as of now.
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Looks like a wet track as of now.
On no...Verstappen will have to go extra slow on the way to the grid to avoid another embarrassing slide into the barrier!
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RB created the whistling situation? No you did hammy by ramming Max off the track and showing what a dirty cheat you are.
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RB created the whistling situation? No you did hammy by ramming Max off the track and showing what a dirty cheat you are.
MAX's (Silverstone-crash) HONDA PU is replaced !

Yesterday during the QF they noticed something was wrong ...
Actually that's really bad news ! Damn....
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Tyres now constructed with Mercs low rake in mind so even pirelli are bowing down to them as well as Mercafia.
Haas and Ferrari flying off the track because of this, the only thing missing now is Masi standing in front of RB pit with a crown on his head saying I will hold you up whenever I feel like it.
Silverstone 2020 ...
The Mercedes tyres got extreme blistering and blew during the Silverstone GP !
According tyre engineers the reason why the Mercedes tyres blew :
Was "DAS" and heat !

Pirelli engineered quickly new tyres with more rubber ...
By this : Mercedes could run with DAS for the rest of the season .

"Made by Pirelli for Mercedes"
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Really doesn't matter who or what team did it, that was a brilliant strategy period. At the end, it earned Mercedes P1 and P2.
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