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Hey guys

Bit of backstory.. yesterday during my lunch break at work I went to move my car and I turned it on and let it sit for a few seconds and it just started shaking.. quite bad actually. I gave it a slight rev and it went to normal, moved the car and went back to work. After work turned it on no problems and drove home fine.

This morning I go to turn it on and it felt like it just wanted to stall straight away, started off normally at about 1000k revs but then within seconds just started dropping and fluctuating up and down. Got worse the longer I left it, sounded as if it was about to die so I turned the car off and left it. Tried again this afternoon and same thing. Also both times gave off a real bad smell of fuel. I've had no CEL's or anything

I'm gonna try get it to the dealer over the next few days to look at but I just wanted to know if anybody has experienced anything similar? and can you guys please give me some direction as to what you think I should be looking at first? Just don;t want my dealer to fuck me around while I spend hundreds/thousands of dollars without fixing anything

[vtl]

Sounds like leaking injectors

[MSportBMW]

If you can smell fuel then 99% the problem is caused by faulty injectors.

[_ink]

Wouldn't bother with a dealer, go to an Indy like Advan or whatevers convenient.

[/335]

Originally Posted by vtl

Sounds like leaking injectors

Originally Posted by MSportBMW

If you can smell fuel then 99% the problem is caused by faulty injectors.

Thanks guys. Seems as if this makes the most sense. Another noob question now: can I drive it 15-20 mins to the dealer or do you recommend i tow it?

Originally Posted by _ink

Wouldn't bother with a dealer, go to an Indy like Advan or whatevers convenient.

I would mate but no good indy's around here. I'm an hour away from Sydney.

[EB89]

Hmm only you can know how far you can drive it, worst case you need to get it towed, the closer you can get it, the cheap the tow will be.

I had mine towed from Wollongong gong to Sydney, it's a few hundred.

[7smurfs]

Test it like this (from personal experience)
- the problem should only occur when cold start
- once the car is warmed up at around 1-2mins into the drive the stuttering should stop
- read codes, should be 29E0 fuel mixture code

I ended up driving the car for quite some time before fixing it.. did end up being injectors

[froop]

Sounds like injectors. Depending on how bad it is, could be anything from just a leak to fully stuck open. I had a mate with a completely stuck open one. One cylinder just wouldn't run and the car was virtually undriveable. There was fuel literally dripping out of the exhaust.

If it's anything like that don't drive it. You'll destroy all your cats. If it's just a bit leaky with some stumbling that goes away, should be fine to drive. But if it doesn't go away it's leaking pretty badly.

[CashedUpBogan]

A dealer is gonna rape you for injectors lol probably 2k a set alone. Take it to a regular mechanic to replace, then get vtl here to code them remotely for you.

I am about to have my injectors taken out and replaced if you want a cheap second hand set. I am only replacing them out of preventative maintenance because I amabout to double the power of my car.

Either way, you should be ok to drive it to the dealer without causing too much damage, but I would still have it towed if I was in your situation. Where abouts are you located? Which direction 1 hour out of Sydney?

[/335]

I'm in Wollongong

I'd prefer not to use BMW Wollongong so I'm considering towing it up to Advan. Might cost a few hundred but at least I know they'll look after it. No good indy's down here unfortunately

[Armadyllo]

Leave your car overnight, in the morning check each spark plug, if you have a wet one you know you have a leaky injector.

Could be a bad coil aswell

I have a similar problem at the moment, seemed to happen after a custom tune. I had a broken vacuum cannister replaced and it has improved by 80%. Still eliminating all possibilities but so far does not seem to be a injector problem.

[vtl]

Originally Posted by jus335

I'm in Wollongong

I'd prefer not to use BMW Wollongong so I'm considering towing it up to Advan. Might cost a few hundred but at least I know they'll look after it. No good indy's down here unfortunately

I say start it and wait until it smoothes out, then let it idle for a while. If it idles fine then just drive it to Sydney. The fuel will leak slowly and not stop the car from starting unless you leave it sitting for a long period.

If you leave it to sit for longer or you start it then shut it off quickly you have a good chance of leaving too much fuel in the cylinder. The car will struggle to start or fail to start altogether.

Are you running a tune? I found MHD cold start is rubbish and made the car really rough on cold starts. I think it's because despite the option, the car is actually still in cold start mode (running rich) but not giving enough throttle/revs for the mode to work correctly.
I thought i'd need to fork out $1500-$2000 for injectors but I removed the cold start delete option and the car is running perfectly again.

[EB89]

Originally Posted by jus335

I'm in Wollongong

I'd prefer not to use BMW Wollongong so I'm considering towing it up to Advan. Might cost a few hundred but at least I know they'll look after it. No good indy's down here unfortunately

You are in Wollongong? What do you drive? Theres been a white 335i with quad tips parked near my place recently.

BMW down here are crap, the service guy couldn't give two shits about my car when i was stuck on the side of the road, I had booked in for them to look at it on a monday, my car stopped at albion park on the friday before and i called and asked if I can tow it to him because im stuck on the side of the road, his response was "Yeah you can tow it to me....on monday"

I thought fuck that, and had it towed to advan, he never called to ask where i was on monday, they dont care.

I think it was around $300 with Elchars towing from Wollongong to Advan

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Originally Posted by vtl

I say start it and wait until it smoothes out, then let it idle for a while. If it idles fine then just drive it to Sydney. The fuel will leak slowly and not stop the car from starting unless you leave it sitting for a long period.

If you leave it to sit for longer or you start it then shut it off quickly you have a good chance of leaving too much fuel in the cylinder. The car will struggle to start or fail to start altogether.

Are you running a tune? I found MHD cold start is rubbish and made the car really rough on cold starts. I think it's because despite the option, the car is actually still in cold start mode (running rich) but not giving enough throttle/revs for the mode to work correctly.
I thought i'd need to fork out $1500-$2000 for injectors but I removed the cold start delete option and the car is running perfectly again.

I don't have time tbh, I work in Sydney everyday plus busy some weeknights, I won't be able to drive it up this weekend (not even sure if they're open), best thing is to tow it I think that way I can get it out today

I have no tune, car is stock apart from PE.

Originally Posted by EB89

You are in Wollongong? What do you drive? Theres been a white 335i with quad tips parked near my place recently.

BMW down here are crap, the service guy couldn't give two shits about my car when i was stuck on the side of the road, I had booked in for them to look at it on a monday, my car stopped at albion park on the friday before and i called and asked if I can tow it to him because im stuck on the side of the road, his response was "Yeah you can tow it to me....on monday"

I thought fuck that, and had it towed to advan, he never called to ask where i was on monday, they dont care.

I think it was around $300 with Elchars towing from Wollongong to Advan

Mate don't even get me started on the bloke at BMW here. I've had friends/family have problems with him for years. I don't want to deal with him.
I have a black e92 335i. You've probably seen me around I've seen you a few times

[EB89]

Originally Posted by jus335

I don't have time tbh, I work in Sydney everyday plus busy some weeknights, I won't be able to drive it up this weekend (not even sure if they're open), best thing is to tow it I think that way I can get it out today

I have no tune, car is stock apart from PE.



Mate don't even get me started on the bloke at BMW here. I've had friends/family have problems with him for years. I don't want to deal with him.
I have a black e92 335i. You've probably seen me around I've seen you a few times

I see a black e92 with chrome wheels all the time, but its not a 335i, Im sure I have seen you haha post a pic of your car ?

[DR-JEKL]

FWIW a lot of the USA guys are using injectors from rockauto as these are much cheaper than ECS FCPeuro etc

Apparently they work OK come with BMW labelling on the injectors... (do a search and you'll find heaps of info out there on guys using them)

[CashedUpBogan]

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

FWIW a lot of the USA guys are using injectors from rockauto as these are much cheaper than ECS FCPeuro etc

Apparently they work OK come with BMW labelling on the injectors... (do a search and you'll find heaps of info out there on guys using them)

That gravy train has run out buddy. Forever out of stock since last year? Occasionally have a few available, but get snapped up fast.

[totti84]

I have brand new OEM BMW injectors in the box if you need a set OP

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Originally Posted by totti84

I have brand new OEM BMW injectors in the box if you need a set OP

Thanks mate, I'll let you know if I'm keen

[Socket]

Originally Posted by totti84

I have brand new OEM BMW injectors in the box if you need a set OP

How much Totti ??

[totti84]

Originally Posted by Socket

How much Totti ??

Make me an offer Phil, they are currently selling for $1625USD shipped from ECS Tuning

[MSportBMW]

Originally Posted by totti84

Make me an offer Phil, they are currently selling for $2150USD shipped from ECS Tuning

They are $1540 USD