Petitions against speed reduction...

alcook · 03-12-2009, 10:46 AM

If you feel strongly against the speed reduction proposal from the government as posted earlier....

There are three related petitions to sign:

Sign the petition "No to 50mph":
Petition to: Not reduce the national speed limit to 50mph. | Number10.gov.uk

Sign the petition "No to Nationwide speed cameras":
Petition to: abandon plans to implement a nationwide average speed detection camera system to enforce a new National Speed limit.. | Number10.gov.uk

Sign second petition "Change National Speed limit to 80mph":
Petition to: Raise the National Speed Limit from 70mph to 80mph. | Number10.gov.uk

biscuits · 03-12-2009, 12:15 PM

Done...

E902717 · 03-12-2009, 12:24 PM

Done..

Mark II · 03-12-2009, 12:32 PM

I commend the idea (of a petition) to the house

Done.

madman · 03-12-2009, 12:57 PM

Done and done and I mean done!

- Paul - · 03-12-2009, 01:22 PM

Done

SixDegrees · 03-12-2009, 02:30 PM

I think reduced speed limits are a good idea in places and at certain times. So, a reduction to 50mph or 40mph on dangerous sections of road is a good idea but not a blanket reduction, thats just dumb.

Not done, done and done ! I didn't sign the 1st one as I think there is merit in reduced speed in certain 60mph zones, but it has to be realistic.

zltm089 · 03-12-2009, 03:19 PM

done!

rup · 03-12-2009, 05:18 PM

done, not that moron Brown will care.

doughboy · 03-13-2009, 04:07 AM

Done, just makes you feel so hopeless with these halfwits making daft decisions on our behalf.

Hopefully the Tories will get in before these schemes get into operation and cancel them, at least the Stazi-like nationwide camera scheme...

gr4z · 03-13-2009, 04:15 AM

Done

jonsteele · 03-13-2009, 05:31 AM

Done - is there one to get rid of Brown and his half wit cabinet?

Animalfreeride · 03-16-2009, 03:34 PM

"Dear Jim FITZPATRICK MP,

I write to you regarding the government's latest proposal to reduce rural speed restrictions.

I have read the recent reports in the media which has prompted me to contact you.

Firstly, I would like to point out that I fully support effective measures that improve road safety. However, I do not subscribe to the views of certain politicians who believe the lowering of rural speed limits will result in the reduction of serious road traffic collisions. Moreover, this could increase tensions on our roads or reduce concentration of motorists leading to complacency which in turn will lower their standard of driving. In other words the lowering of current speed restrictions on our rural roads will not deter those who choose to drive in a dangerous or inappropriate manner.

The local authorty already has the ability to implement speed restrictions on rural roads which is well evidenced throughout the country. A "blanket" reduction will do nothing to improve the standards of driving in this country. The notion of "Speed Kills" is misleading. Speed alone does not kill as most accidents are attributed to poor driving/negligence although accept that in some instances EXCESS speed is a contributing factor.

The government should focus more on targeting irresponsible motorists instead penalising the majority of law abiding and competent drivers who will be unnecessarily impeded by this unfair proposal.

Yours Sincerely,

(Animalfreeride)"

"Dear

Thank you for your recent correspondence to this Department regarding press reports about changes to the national speed limit. This has been passed to the Speed Management Branch and I have been asked to reply.

The Department for Transport keeps all speed limits under review. However, no decisions have been taken about the reduction of any speed limits. Any proposal to change the national speed limit would have to be based on robust evidence of the impact on casualties, emissions and journey times. It would also need to consider issues of enforcement and public acceptability. Any changes would be subject to widespread consultation.

In 2007 there were 2,946 deaths on our roads, with 1,973 of those being on rural roads. The proportion of fatal collisions on rural roads where speed was recorded as a contributory factor was 30%. Given the extent of the casualty problem on these roads, it is clearly vital that the Department looks at ways to reduce these casualties. We are doing this in developing our new road safety strategy, which will be the subject of public consultation in due course.

I hope this is helpful.

John Gray
Speed Policy
Road User Safety Division
Department for Transport"

Guys,

I wrote direct to the idiot who proposed this idea & received the above response. I also received a letter from my MP today direct from House Of Commons.

I'm really surprised the forum hasn't really taken this issue that seriously seeming we are all "petrol heads" !!

In short, unless more of us speak up, they will undoubtedly implement these restrictions & spoil our fun!!

It goes without saying that if we all drove at 10mph then of course there would be fewer serious accidents or fatalities, but it has to be a balance. The government are really missing the point here & should be more focused on driver improvement.

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Animalfreeride Private 13 Rep 88 Posts Drives: BMW 335i MSport Coupe Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England iTrader: (0)	"Dear Jim FITZPATRICK MP, I write to you regarding the government's latest proposal to reduce rural speed restrictions. I have read the recent reports in the media which has prompted me to contact you. Firstly, I would like to point out that I fully support effective measures that improve road safety. However, I do not subscribe to the views of certain politicians who believe the lowering of rural speed limits will result in the reduction of serious road traffic collisions. Moreover, this could increase tensions on our roads or reduce concentration of motorists leading to complacency which in turn will lower their standard of driving. In other words the lowering of current speed restrictions on our rural roads will not deter those who choose to drive in a dangerous or inappropriate manner. The local authorty already has the ability to implement speed restrictions on rural roads which is well evidenced throughout the country. A "blanket" reduction will do nothing to improve the standards of driving in this country. The notion of "Speed Kills" is misleading. Speed alone does not kill as most accidents are attributed to poor driving/negligence although accept that in some instances EXCESS speed is a contributing factor. The government should focus more on targeting irresponsible motorists instead penalising the majority of law abiding and competent drivers who will be unnecessarily impeded by this unfair proposal. Yours Sincerely, (Animalfreeride)" "Dear Thank you for your recent correspondence to this Department regarding press reports about changes to the national speed limit. This has been passed to the Speed Management Branch and I have been asked to reply. The Department for Transport keeps all speed limits under review. However, no decisions have been taken about the reduction of any speed limits. Any proposal to change the national speed limit would have to be based on robust evidence of the impact on casualties, emissions and journey times. It would also need to consider issues of enforcement and public acceptability. Any changes would be subject to widespread consultation. In 2007 there were 2,946 deaths on our roads, with 1,973 of those being on rural roads. The proportion of fatal collisions on rural roads where speed was recorded as a contributory factor was 30%. Given the extent of the casualty problem on these roads, it is clearly vital that the Department looks at ways to reduce these casualties. We are doing this in developing our new road safety strategy, which will be the subject of public consultation in due course. I hope this is helpful. John Gray Speed Policy Road User Safety Division Department for Transport" Guys, I wrote direct to the idiot who proposed this idea & received the above response. I also received a letter from my MP today direct from House Of Commons. I'm really surprised the forum hasn't really taken this issue that seriously seeming we are all "petrol heads" !! In short, unless more of us speak up, they will undoubtedly implement these restrictions & spoil our fun!! It goes without saying that if we all drove at 10mph then of course there would be fewer serious accidents or fatalities, but it has to be a balance. The government are really missing the point here & should be more focused on driver improvement.
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