Front Facing T4 TS Project

cageyvet · 01-12-2013, 09:29 PM

First, this is probably going to take me a while to complete in between work, school, and day to day life. However, today I got started on my new project. The plan is to remove the stock radiator and to install a mini radiator to create room for a front facing turbo. In order to run a manifold up front I plan on fabbing a new coolant reservoir in another location as well as relocating/deleting stuff in the way. Right now the turbo I'm leaning towards is a T4 TS Borg Warner Airwerks s300sx FMW. My goals are to have a quick spooling setup, that will make decent power, and that will not be a pain in the ass to work on after its on the car. I haven't spent a ton of time under the hood of my 335i since its just a DD at the moment but I'm assuming I can just route a DP under the engine instead of snaking it through the engine bay. Since I finally got a tig welder (Eastwood tig 200) and I had some SS come in from Acestainless this week so I got cracking today.

Here's what I did today

ichi_ban · 01-12-2013, 09:52 PM

Damn you can weld

rdeterman · 01-12-2013, 10:01 PM

good luck keep us informed!

cageyvet · 01-12-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamSoloE93

Damn you can weld

Thank you!! Ebay tig ftw, lol!

E90Company · 01-12-2013, 11:41 PM

Good luck with the build! I'll be watching this one

Tiago@VRSF · 01-13-2013, 12:12 AM

Looks great man! Keep us updated.

The half-rad idea is heavily used on the Evo platform and works well for them. Can't wait to see your results!

Redrkt503 · 01-13-2013, 07:35 AM

Can't wait to see the results! Coming from the evo world this looks promising!

Hisam135i · 01-13-2013, 05:14 PM

Subd this should be interesting

335iJWC · 01-13-2013, 07:46 PM

Keep us posted,

SCS15 · 01-13-2013, 08:33 PM

Good luck with the project and keep us posted

klipseracer · 01-13-2013, 08:40 PM

My main concern would be sub par coolant capability. This car is notoriously HOT not to mention the transmission putting a strain on the temp as well.

cageyvet · 01-13-2013, 09:19 PM

Surprised only one person caught the 4 banger style divided collector but im planning on splitting 2 runners into 4 closer to the cylinder head for space conservation. Im going to need all the space i can get for twin gates, not to mention i wanted tomake it easier to fab. If i was doing an undivided setup id do a 6-1 collector but since im dealing with the ts cyl pairing restrictions i thought this would be more feasible.

cageyvet · 01-13-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by klipseracer

My main concern would be sub par coolant capability. This car is notoriously HOT not to mention the transmission putting a strain on the temp as well.

Check mini rad cooling capability....compare to stock

jippii ensio · 01-14-2013, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cageyvet

Surprised only one person caught the 4 banger style divided collector but im planning on splitting 2 runners into 4 closer to the cylinder head for space conservation. Im going to need all the space i can get for twin gates, not to mention i wanted tomake it easier to fab. If i was doing an undivided setup id do a 6-1 collector but since im dealing with the ts cyl pairing restrictions i thought this would be more feasible.

You should divide the cylinders into two evenly, 3 cylinders per turbine inlet and moreover, based on the firing order.

Sniz · 01-14-2013, 08:28 AM

awesome someone finally doing it themselves.

cageyvet · 01-14-2013, 11:38 AM

The runners are going to have a similiar split like the DOC race manifold pictured but instead of one splitting to three I'm going to have one splitting to two + a lone runner going to each collector. This might be bold or overly ambitious but I want my design to turn out better than this one. Besides placement I want to incorporate better EWG routing coming off the collector's than the manifold pictured (ie. I want them coming off at an angle that is conducive with the exhaust gas flow) and I want to eliminate using cheater cuts on my design.

cageyvet · 01-14-2013, 11:40 AM

see below pictar

jippii ensio · 01-14-2013, 11:46 AM

Now I got it, I think

Looking forward to your build!

e92ben · 01-14-2013, 12:30 PM

Nice!! Can't wait to see more of this project in action

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 01-14-2013, 02:09 PM

Good luck.

I'm sure you remembered in your project that it's important that the o2 sensors read the appropriate banks. (i.e. Cyl 1-3 and 4-6, Bank 1 and Bank 2 Respectively). If you mate the o2 sensors all in 1 bank it will likely cause drivability problems. So be sure to mate the o2 sensors in a good location that read 1-3 separate from 4-6 cylinders.

dlbrooks18 · 01-14-2013, 04:24 PM

Very cool

Ænema · 01-14-2013, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniz

awesome someone finally doing it themselves.

There's already atleast one DIY single turbo out and running around. It's runnning a JB4 IIRC.

01-12-2013, 09:29 PM	#1
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cageyvet Enlisted Member 5 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houston iTrader: (0)	Surprised only one person caught the 4 banger style divided collector but im planning on splitting 2 runners into 4 closer to the cylinder head for space conservation. Im going to need all the space i can get for twin gates, not to mention i wanted tomake it easier to fab. If i was doing an undivided setup id do a 6-1 collector but since im dealing with the ts cyl pairing restrictions i thought this would be more feasible.
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cageyvet Enlisted Member 5 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houston iTrader: (0)	The runners are going to have a similiar split like the DOC race manifold pictured but instead of one splitting to three I'm going to have one splitting to two + a lone runner going to each collector. This might be bold or overly ambitious but I want my design to turn out better than this one. Besides placement I want to incorporate better EWG routing coming off the collector's than the manifold pictured (ie. I want them coming off at an angle that is conducive with the exhaust gas flow) and I want to eliminate using cheater cuts on my design. Attached Images
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