335i Turbo upgrade done and in testing phases

AJ@ECSMotorsports · 12-12-2008, 01:31 PM

lol i'm pretty sure the turbos are teh same on ALL N54 engines.

tuning MAY be a little different, I have no idea

Brian GT PRO · 12-12-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeSmooth

What about us RHD guys? Will you have RHD cores to swop out?

I need to look at a RHD schematic, it will be interesting to see what if any differences there are. Worst case scenario, ship your turbos to us, and we will mod them and ship them back to you.

GeorgeSmooth · 12-12-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO

I need to look at a RHD schematic, it will be interesting to see what if any differences there are. Worst case scenario, ship your turbos to us, and we will mod them and ship them back to you.

Great stuff let me know if its the same. By the way the email feature on your site isn't working.

Brian GT PRO · 12-12-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeSmooth

Great stuff let me know if its the same. By the way the email feature on your site isn't working.

Thank you, we're working on the problem with e-mail.

ohsnapITZe92 · 12-12-2008, 05:16 PM

so whats the deal if we're local? would we be able to leave our cars at the shop until turbo is upgraded??

Brian GT PRO · 12-12-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ohsnapITZe92

so whats the deal if we're local? would we be able to leave our cars at the shop until turbo is upgraded??

Yes sir.

midlife · 12-12-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ohsnapITZe92

so whats the deal if we're local? would we be able to leave our cars at the shop until turbo is upgraded??

damn, you guys are lucky

Brian GT PRO · 12-13-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by midlife

damn, you guys are lucky

We are offering this same service to anyone in the nation as well. (we do get cars shipped to us from all across the nation BTW LOL)

sd390r · 12-13-2008, 12:45 PM

how much does it cost to ship a car? timeframe? lol

mayno · 12-13-2008, 01:03 PM

quick question: does 16 psi of boost equal the same amount of power regardless of the type or size of turbo? if not, how much difference is there? I'd imagine a cheaper turbo (in quality and design) would be less efficient and equate to less power but by how much approximately? just wondering.

CanadianTSi · 12-13-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mayno

quick question: does 16 psi of boost equal the same amount of power regardless of the type or size of turbo?

If it did do you think people would upgrade there Turbo's

Banker335i · 12-13-2008, 01:19 PM

What about WastGate Rattle? is it gone? whats new about the wastgates?

mayno · 12-13-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianTSi

If it did do you think people would upgrade there Turbo's

well, even if they were equal power at a given psi, if someone wanted the flexibility to dial up the boost above 16 psi, then yes they'd upgrade. but if you're content w/ 16 psi, knowing that your tranny and motor can't handle anymore than that then why would you do it unless you did some serious internal upgrades as well.

you still didn't answer my question though: is 16psi = 16psi regardless of turbo type.

Sniz · 12-13-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mayno

well, even if they were equal power at a given psi, if someone wanted the flexibility to dial up the boost above 16 psi, then yes they'd upgrade. but if you're content w/ 16 psi, knowing that your tranny and motor can't handle anymore than that then why would you do it unless you did some serious internal upgrades as well.

you still didn't answer my question though: is 16psi = 16psi regardless of turbo type.

no

Aridk · 12-13-2008, 01:57 PM

Quote Brian:
Fuel system and the HPFP, at this moment we're not looking to build cars to become stripped out drag cars, or competing with 1000+hp EVO's and Supras, our goal was to build a powerful bolt on solution for great reliable and fun street warriors. BMW's are not meant to be full on drag cars...It is my feeling that for our goals, the factory fuel system will suffice. We are NOT looking to be the first 1000HP 335i.

Thank you Brian, thats just want I want to hear. Bmw has succeed in building a turboengine that doesen`t feel like it is, so let keep it that way

Bolting on truck like IC and stuf that induce turbolack I feel is missing the point.

I think when I say this I speak for many of us, this car is a consideral investment and is used as a daily driver(familie car

).
I have a 80 ish style tunned turbocar as whell an hech it`s fun

, but not what I`m loooking for in my (almost)brand new Bmw

Aridk · 12-13-2008, 02:03 PM

Hi host why is`t the quote above from Brian in Blue??

Brian GT PRO · 12-13-2008, 02:41 PM

To answer the last two questions:

Shipping a car from say, NC costs approx. $800.00 (just got one hence why I know off the top of my head)

Turbos. all boost is not created equal. Here is an example: 16psi on a small turbo that has say a potential of 35lbs per min at 2.0pr, vs a larger turbo that has say 45lbs per min at 2.0pr, at this 16psi the overall volume of air will be quite different. It's like this.. Imagine a garden hose that is 1" in diameter, you turn on the hose 2 turns (2 turns being the baseline control), and you leave it turned on for 10 secs. and fill a bucket. Now take a hose let's say, 1 1/2 inches in diameter and do the exact same control method. Measure the water in the bucket, I assure you that even at the same pressure, the larger hose will deliver more water.

McLuVan · 12-13-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Banker335i

What about WastGate Rattle? is it gone? whats new about the wastgates?

I really hope so
I hated that stupid wastegate rattle

Sniz · 12-13-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO

To answer the last two questions:

Shipping a car from say, NC costs approx. $800.00 (just got one hence why I know off the top of my head)

Turbos. all boost is not created equal. Here is an example: 16psi on a small turbo that has say a potential of 35lbs per min at 2.0pr, vs a larger turbo that has say 45lbs per min at 2.0pr, at this 16psi the overall volume of air will be quite different. It's like this.. Imagine a garden hose that is 1" in diameter, you turn on the hose 2 turns (2 turns being the baseline control), and you leave it turned on for 10 secs. and fill a bucket. Now take a hose let's say, 1 1/2 inches in diameter and do the exact same control method. Measure the water in the bucket, I assure you that even at the same pressure, the larger hose will deliver more water.

that was a much more complete answer than my "no"

mayno · 12-13-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian GT PRO

To answer the last two questions:

Shipping a car from say, NC costs approx. $800.00 (just got one hence why I know off the top of my head)

Turbos. all boost is not created equal. Here is an example: 16psi on a small turbo that has say a potential of 35lbs per min at 2.0pr, vs a larger turbo that has say 45lbs per min at 2.0pr, at this 16psi the overall volume of air will be quite different. It's like this.. Imagine a garden hose that is 1" in diameter, you turn on the hose 2 turns (2 turns being the baseline control), and you leave it turned on for 10 secs. and fill a bucket. Now take a hose let's say, 1 1/2 inches in diameter and do the exact same control method. Measure the water in the bucket, I assure you that even at the same pressure, the larger hose will deliver more water.

thanks...that was very a very helpful explanation.

Proper Motion LLC · 12-13-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by McLuVan

I really hope so
I hated that stupid wastegate rattle

What wastegate rattle?

darkphantom · 12-14-2008, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen_E92

2009 will get VERY interesting

mmmm hmmm!

can't wait!

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Brian GT PRO 10 Rep 129 Posts Drives: Jet Black 335i E92 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fullerton, CA iTrader: (0)	To answer the last two questions: Shipping a car from say, NC costs approx. $800.00 (just got one hence why I know off the top of my head) Turbos. all boost is not created equal. Here is an example: 16psi on a small turbo that has say a potential of 35lbs per min at 2.0pr, vs a larger turbo that has say 45lbs per min at 2.0pr, at this 16psi the overall volume of air will be quite different. It's like this.. Imagine a garden hose that is 1" in diameter, you turn on the hose 2 turns (2 turns being the baseline control), and you leave it turned on for 10 secs. and fill a bucket. Now take a hose let's say, 1 1/2 inches in diameter and do the exact same control method. Measure the water in the bucket, I assure you that even at the same pressure, the larger hose will deliver more water.
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