Has anyone actually damaged their engine?

GreenPlease · 09-04-2009, 08:09 PM

Anyone out there actually done material damage to the engine itself? Exclude ruining your turbos.

inthemiddle · 09-04-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenPlease

Anyone out there actually done material damage to the engine itself? Exclude ruining your turbos.

I've only heard of one car out there with engine issues.... i believe it was Vince... but I can't remember the backstory.... search for posts from Vince / VK Motorworks or Motorwerks or however it's spelled... there's a thread out there....

GreenPlease · 09-04-2009, 08:41 PM

The only reason I posted this thread was that I'm considering a piggyback (JB3, Proceed, or Standback). I'm weighing the potential to damage the engine and transmission. I can live with ~$5,000 to replace turbos after 50,000 miles or so but I couldn't live with $20,000 to replace an entire engine.

stressdoc · 09-04-2009, 08:45 PM

If you take good care of everything the current piggys set at moderate maps (<15psi) don't seem to cause problems yet. There are inherent cooling issues with cyl 5 & 6 that prolonged stress can cause failure.

One would like to think that the BMW Perf engine kit obviates those weaknesses.

GreenPlease · 09-04-2009, 11:10 PM

I'd assume that an upgraded intercooler, ceramic coated downpipes, and a vented hood would help as well.

persian54 · 09-04-2009, 11:14 PM

5k to replace turbos?

I've seen turbos sell for much less...

If you can afford to pay 5k, why not get dinan and not worry?

Ramos · 09-04-2009, 11:33 PM

cuz Dinan only protects you for 50K miles like the factory warranty, OP is worried about long term damage beyond 50K miles... Honestly, I think if you plan to keep this car forever, you should either stay stock or invest in every possible cooling solution out there including FMIC, oil cooler, radiator, etc...

GreenPlease · 09-05-2009, 07:52 AM

Plan on keeping it until ~80,000 miles. Part of the reason I got this car was the intrinsic "option" to tune it. Thinking about exercising said option

A418t81 · 09-05-2009, 08:08 AM

46k on mine, some sort of tune since 3k. No issues. I expect that to continue for at least another 46k....and certainly not have any long block issues. Expect a fuel pump or two, but otherwise nothing big.

deletedelete · 09-05-2009, 08:11 AM

Its not like a tune keeps your turbos working overtime 24/7. Those turbos are made with wiggle room and with highway driving im sure youll be fine. Tracking the car alot with a tune is a bit different though id say.

cstavaru · 09-05-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenPlease

Plan on keeping it until ~80,000 miles. Part of the reason I got this car was the intrinsic "option" to tune it. Thinking about exercising said option

You have the option of BMW Performance Power Kit (plus BMW Performance Exhaust and a simple drop-in filter you should be able to get a total of ~30whp).

darkphantom · 09-05-2009, 05:15 PM

get all the supporting mods for it, and no more worries...even past 50k miles

Drakos · 09-05-2009, 05:28 PM

There is not enough history on this car to determine if there are going to be issues beyond 50K even without any mods. N54 is a fantastic engine, but who knows about it's long term reliability.

OpenFlash · 09-05-2009, 05:37 PM

I'm at 50K in my 07. Tuned since 300 miles on the clock. And I'd argue that 50k miles on our rolling trial-and-error test bed is like 100k miles on a normal customer car. Long-term durability doesn't seem to be an issue at all.

Shiv

GreenPlease · 09-05-2009, 06:12 PM

So no thrown rods, siezed pistons, or blown heads?

per · 09-05-2009, 06:17 PM

I guess it ir nor indestrucable, found this om the other side

kgb1637 · 09-05-2009, 07:42 PM

Someone on this forum was looking for a whole new complete engine, no idea why but something happened that BMW was gonna charge him $20k for.

Mr. 5 · 09-05-2009, 07:44 PM

I've been running a tune since 1500 miles and I have 56k miles now.
I had 2 new turbos put in but it was because of my wastegates sticking.
Everything else has been great. (except for the fuel pumps of course.

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beepbeep · 09-06-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm at 50K in my 07. Tuned since 300 miles on the clock. And I'd argue that 50k miles on our rolling trial-and-error test bed is like 100k miles on a normal customer car. Long-term durability doesn't seem to be an issue at all.

Shiv

Good to hear. And I'd have to argue that the "trial and errors" during development would be a lot harder on the engine, by an order of magnitude, than the finished product.

MKE_M3 · 09-06-2009, 11:59 AM

so... has anyone had issues?

645Nm · 09-06-2009, 02:13 PM

time to start modding...the mods you are thinking about is a good start...have fun...i have'nt had any major issues...on the mods you identified.

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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 131 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	The only reason I posted this thread was that I'm considering a piggyback (JB3, Proceed, or Standback). I'm weighing the potential to damage the engine and transmission. I can live with ~$5,000 to replace turbos after 50,000 miles or so but I couldn't live with $20,000 to replace an entire engine.
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,858 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	If you take good care of everything the current piggys set at moderate maps (<15psi) don't seem to cause problems yet. There are inherent cooling issues with cyl 5 & 6 that prolonged stress can cause failure. One would like to think that the BMW Perf engine kit obviates those weaknesses. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 131 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	I'd assume that an upgraded intercooler, ceramic coated downpipes, and a vented hood would help as well.
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persian54 Lieutenant General 927 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	5k to replace turbos? I've seen turbos sell for much less... If you can afford to pay 5k, why not get dinan and not worry?
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Ramos Colonel 863 Rep 2,897 Posts Drives: G20 2020 M340 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: So-Cal iTrader: (6)	cuz Dinan only protects you for 50K miles like the factory warranty, OP is worried about long term damage beyond 50K miles... Honestly, I think if you plan to keep this car forever, you should either stay stock or invest in every possible cooling solution out there including FMIC, oil cooler, radiator, etc...
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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 131 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	Plan on keeping it until ~80,000 miles. Part of the reason I got this car was the intrinsic "option" to tune it. Thinking about exercising said option
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A418t81 Lieutenant Colonel 318 Rep 1,517 Posts Drives: Ever changing fleet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 335is [0.00]	46k on mine, some sort of tune since 3k. No issues. I expect that to continue for at least another 46k....and certainly not have any long block issues. Expect a fuel pump or two, but otherwise nothing big. __________________ 23 iX M60, 24 GT3 RS Weissach, 22 Rivian R1T, 23 RS3, 13 E92 M3 Competition: Akra Evo, KW V3, etc
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darkphantom Banned 599 Rep 5,946 Posts Drives: E93 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The place for Bimmers iTrader: (4)	get all the supporting mods for it, and no more worries...even past 50k miles
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Drakos Lieutenant 65 Rep 534 Posts Drives: 2022 G42 M240i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	There is not enough history on this car to determine if there are going to be issues beyond 50K even without any mods. N54 is a fantastic engine, but who knows about it's long term reliability.
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GreenPlease Lieutenant Colonel 131 Rep 1,629 Posts Drives: BMW 335i e92 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando Florida iTrader: (2)	So no thrown rods, siezed pistons, or blown heads?
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MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	so... has anyone had issues?
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645Nm only in it for the torque - awuleth'umshini wami 50 Rep 425 Posts Drives: sapphire black 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nomad iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i sedan [0.00] 2005 120D [0.00] 2007 335i sedan [0.00]	time to start modding...the mods you are thinking about is a good start...have fun...i have'nt had any major issues...on the mods you identified. __________________
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