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04-17-2012, 02:25 PM | #90 | |
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04-17-2012, 03:56 PM | #91 |
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There is a reason they call it a "money shift".
I'm not going to lecture anyone on proper shifting technique. A money shift gets soured in the DME and from what I know, short of killing the DME they *WILL* be able to read the over rev. It truly does suck but what should anyone but the OP pay for his mistake? I've never had a money shift. I will say I do like paddle shifters and steptronic. The only thing better is DCT. |
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04-17-2012, 04:05 PM | #92 | |
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OP. make insurance or BMW pay for it. Nice shift.
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04-17-2012, 04:10 PM | #93 | |
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ebay engine
Man that ebay engine looks like a sweet deal; would be nice to have that thing lying around as a spare engine or totally trick it out or something. Might be good option for OP....
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04-17-2012, 04:31 PM | #94 |
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Damn, that eBay engine looks like a great deal! Only downside is the 1/2009+ 6-bolt flywheel, but I doubt that makes too big of a deal.
A failure like that usually claims the ENTIRE engine - from what the OP described, I would bet real money that there is a hole in the block AND at least one or more cylinders is trashed from pistons hitting valves, breaking them off, dropping into the still rotating bottom end, and literally trashing the entire insides of multiple cylinders. There is no rebuilding of that engine, I guarantee that. You may be able to salvage certain parts off the engine such as VANOS valves, sensors, etc, but the complete block and cylinder head, and possibly cams and crank are damaged from that kind of over-rev. 2nd gear at 80+ MPH for more any amount of time is going to cost big money. And yeah, where is the OP?!?
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04-17-2012, 04:49 PM | #96 | |
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I don't care if its a multi billion dollar company or a small mom and pop shop, you screwed up, deal with it. If hes broke and can't afford to fix it, he probably shouldn't be owning this car in the first place. /rant. |
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04-17-2012, 05:03 PM | #98 | |
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04-17-2012, 05:06 PM | #99 | |
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If I paid for every mistake I've ever made, the world would be unbalanced because I sure as hell have paid for mistakes that others have made too. With that in mind, if I can get a multi-national corp like BMW to pay for some of mine, I don't feel aggrieved when I have to pay for someone else's. Like it or don't like it, who gives a fuck? This is the world we live in, your heightened morality index isn't going to change it so I'm just going to roll with it. |
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04-17-2012, 05:17 PM | #100 | |
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04-17-2012, 05:27 PM | #101 |
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damn OP, i've been in a small scale situation like this before with my old car... the dealer tried saying I needed to replace the entire motor as well when all I did was warp a head gasket!!! fucking robbery! so you know what I did? I found an inside man to tell them the radiator was leaking and what do ya know... The dealer all of a sudden said it could be fixed without a replacement motor when it was on their dime now... so OP do what you can to make this situation better... because in all honesty no one out there is a saint and everyone is out there for themselves... if you've never made an immoral decision in your life, then go ahead and bash everyone saying to do the immoral... but I highly doubt that's the case here...
edit: I do however firmly believe in Karma and try to keep mine in the green... but the dealer tried to fuck me over, so I returned the favor. |
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04-17-2012, 05:28 PM | #102 |
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Take a sledge hammer to your oil pan and say you hit a man cover or something (I've given 4 great very immoral ideas...lets see some mroe)
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04-17-2012, 05:37 PM | #103 | |
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It's nice that you don't get aggravated when you have to pay like $200/hr to BMW, but your apathy affects those of us who think BMW shouldn't charge lawyer wages for mechanical work (and don't get me started on lawyers). P.S. to all: Sorry for my searing hot barbed exhaust pipe up the rectum comment. It was said hastily, and I wasn't nearly as worked up as it sounded. |
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04-17-2012, 05:37 PM | #104 |
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04-17-2012, 06:09 PM | #105 |
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I ride motorcycles and most of the large sports bikes are now fitted with 'slipper' clutches which will not allow the equivalent of a money shift.
The consequences of changing down to a gear too low for the actual road speed on a motorcycle can be life-threatening as the rear wheel will lock up, and a slipper clutch disengages the drive in a situation like this. I don't have much technical or engineering knowledge and so I don't know whether this type of solution could be used in a car. Jack |
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04-17-2012, 06:18 PM | #106 | |
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04-17-2012, 06:33 PM | #107 |
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Because those multibillion dollar companies pass those costs onto the consumer, which is you and me by jacking up the cost of the car. So in the end we do end up paying for his mistake. But go ahead and believe in your mind that BMW is really covering this out of their pocket.
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04-17-2012, 06:38 PM | #108 | |
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To all the people who are bashing the "immoral"... you must be really naive to believe the Dealer wouldn't fuck you over in a heartbeat when presented the opportunity... what about all the people who know nothing of the mechanics of a car and have to take the word of the dealership to have a repair made... getting ass-raped for simple repairs is not an uncommon practice in this business and I'm willing to bet it happens ALOT more often than people trying to scam the dealership. Sure, you can say the dealer makes up for it with their "goodwill" (which I actually rarely ever even hear about) but a few goodwills doesn't make up for the unimaginable amount of highway robberies they've committed on their customers... oh and simply because "they drive a BMW and can afford it" is just plain horse shit if you ask me... Let's not forget these are the same dealers that not too long ago tried to refuse HPFP replacements and voided warranties because of a tune or DCI installed... Sorry, but if dealers can get away with taking advantage of people, why can't it be the other way around? Like I said, not everyone out there is a saint... |
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04-17-2012, 07:16 PM | #110 | |
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Don't think for a second that because my morals are strong that I somehow think i live in some utopia where everyone farts flowers. I'm not trying to say we all should be goody two shoes and go all stepford wives. I'm saying this world is going to hell in a hand basket because of attitudes just like yours. In any case, my point (at least in this post) is that the solution to handle immoral individuals or companies is not to to beat them by becoming immoral or more immoral. Beat them by not being immoral, and taking responsibility for ones actions. It doesn't protect you from attempts of immorality against you, but it certainly helps the good side in the "immorality battle". |
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