Vishnu Methanol Injection System

scalbert · 10-15-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kenneth

I am trying to convince myself that this mod is too extreme and too painful to go through. But Shiv is making it damn hard to ignore!

I am in a similar boat. I had promised myself I was done, but alas, something else to consider.

Heck, I was even considering pulling off a couple of parts...

scalbert · 10-15-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xsboost

with the increase boost and exhaust temp?

I'm curious on a similar note. The increased cylinder pressures will raise the EGT's but the timing advance would somewhat negate this. Has any EGT measurement been made? No need to supply actual figures, just relative if possible.

bmwzimmer · 10-15-2009, 10:36 AM

This will work with the older REV 1 pnp procede right? Just 2 options for map switching, stock and Meth maps right?
I have a 6AT and already own a BT scan tool to clear codes. Is there much benefit to getting a Canbus REVII procede? I know with 6MT's, it's totally worth it just for the boost drop fix but is it worth it in my case??

munters · 10-15-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

This will work with the older REV 1 pnp procede right? Just 2 options for map switching, stock and Meth maps right?
I have a 6AT and already own a BT scan tool to clear codes. Is there much benefit to getting a Canbus REVII procede? I know with 6MT's, it's totally worth it just for the boost drop fix but is it worth it in my case??

Theoretical yes. If one of the already used revI O/I's would be used for the meth. (like no speed delimiter) Is Shiv doing that? Not shure.

NM_BMW · 10-15-2009, 10:55 AM

This is awesome news!!! I'm ready to order today, get these babies out the door Shiv.

SkySoldier · 10-15-2009, 11:31 AM

Badass! I love how Shiv keeps improving his already excellent products, a lot of after market companies make a product that sucks and then you have to annoy the shit out of them just to get them to fix it.

Septro · 10-15-2009, 11:58 AM

Niooooce! Looks bad-ass.

I wonder how you''ll get to the OEM toolkit with the tank in the way?? On second thought, screw the tools - you got Meth!

OpenFlash · 10-15-2009, 12:00 PM

You can still get to the tools. The toolkit lid still lifts up

kjrulz · 10-15-2009, 12:04 PM

Shiv, can you answer per's post?

TurboSid · 10-15-2009, 12:06 PM

nice setup. i was looking at the active kit and thinking of fabricating a plate like that for my setup, looks like u did the work for me.

hopefully u wont pull an AMS and the price will be reasonable.

FlyingHorse · 10-15-2009, 12:11 PM

please make it compatible with Rev I!!!!! I dnot really care about clear code or lag fix, i want Meth !!!!!!!!!!!

KWY91 · 10-15-2009, 12:16 PM

Holy shit! First Meth kit that looks easy to install!!

OpenFlash · 10-15-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by per

One small problem, the flexible rubber elbow just after the upper intercooler tube is in cars produced after 1th of april 2009 not more done in 2 pieces, just 1. All the way from ic to charge pipe
BMW doesn’t even produce the 2 piece elbow any more.
I guess it will be an easy fix ,but some other solution has to be found on cars produced after april

I'll take a look at a new car today at the dealership. I'm sure we can figure something out.

NM_BMW · 10-15-2009, 12:26 PM

Shiv, would there be any problems with the meth possibly getting recirculated through the DV's or VTA on a BOV because the nozzle is before both in your setup?

OpenFlash · 10-15-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingHorse

please make it compatible with Rev I!!!!! I dnot really care about clear code or lag fix, i want Meth !!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it will be compatible with Rev.1. Functionally, it will work identically. But you wont have 3 non-meth maps to choose from. You'll only have Map1 (nonMeth) and Map4 (Meth). But each map will be fully customizable as always

Shiv

OpenFlash · 10-15-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Humtek

Shiv, would there be any problems with the meth possibly getting recirculated through the DV's or VTA on a BOV because the nozzle is before both in your setup?

Perhaps if you run pure meth but that is not advisable. Running a water mixture makes the meth non-flammable so venting some mist under the hood does no damage. But realistically, there is no need to vent to atmosphere although I did it myself for the last 6 moths with 3 bypass valves installed (2 Forge and 1 giant Tial). Since then, I've removed the Tial and recirculated the Forge back to the intake pipe.

Shiv

Sniz · 10-15-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Perhaps if you run pure meth but that is not advisable. Running a water mixture makes the meth non-flammable so venting some mist under the hood does no damage. But realistically, there is no need to vent to atmosphere although I did it myself for the last 6 moths with 3 bypass valves installed (2 Forge and 1 giant Tial). Since then, I've removed the Tial and recirculated the Forge back to the intake pipe.

Shiv

see any change in off to on boost transitions?

OpenFlash · 10-15-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

see any change in off to on boost transitions?

Not at all.

NM_BMW · 10-15-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Perhaps if you run pure meth but that is not advisable. Running a water mixture makes the meth non-flammable so venting some mist under the hood does no damage. But realistically, there is no need to vent to atmosphere although I did it myself for the last 6 moths with 3 bypass valves installed (2 Forge and 1 giant Tial). Since then, I've removed the Tial and recirculated the Forge back to the intake pipe.

Shiv

But realistically there is no need to recirculate either.

correct? Especially if there are no differences besides the woooosh. I for one have never been a fan of the BOV, but the 50mm Tial sounds incredible.

OpenFlash · 10-15-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by got psi

When will you release pricing/availability?

also, do you have any bigger pix that you can post?

I'm leaving my computer in a few minutes (gasp!) to finish up the install in a customer car. Will use this opportunity to tweak the parts list for ease of installation. So I should have a final component list today which means pricing tomorrow. Or latest, Monday. Will have high res. installed pics by then too.

Shiv

TurboSid · 10-15-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm leaving my computer in a few minutes (gasp!) to finish up the install in a customer car. Will use this opportunity to tweak the parts list for ease of installation. So I should have a final component list today which means pricing tomorrow. Or latest, Monday. Will have high res. installed pics by then too.

Shiv

SlicktopTTZ · 10-15-2009, 01:06 PM

^ lol, nice one.

Shiv, so the only reason you went back to DVs is so you wouldn't have the noise? With fast shifting on the 6mt and your boost hold between shifts does the BOV/DV even open?

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NM_BMW Vishnu Powered 68 Rep 2,205 Posts Drives: 335xi, S1000RR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Proceding iTrader: (7)	This is awesome news!!! I'm ready to order today, get these babies out the door Shiv. __________________ 2008 335xi Sedan \| Titanium Silver \| Black Dakota PROcede v5 \| Vishnu Exhaust \| BMS DCI \| AR Catless DPs \| Helix FMIC \| Stett Charge w/ Tial BOV \| MORR VS8s \| KWv3
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Septro Banned 77 Rep 1,649 Posts Drives: '08 e90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: C-Bus, OH iTrader: (1)	Niooooce! Looks bad-ass. I wonder how you''ll get to the OEM toolkit with the tank in the way?? On second thought, screw the tools - you got Meth!
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kjrulz Mastermind 71 Rep 1,360 Posts Drives: girls krazy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: your mother iTrader: (5)	Shiv, can you answer per's post?
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FlyingHorse Private First Class 5 Rep 129 Posts Drives: G35x; E90 335i; E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (5)	please make it compatible with Rev I!!!!! I dnot really care about clear code or lag fix, i want Meth !!!!!!!!!!!
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KWY91 Major 36 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 (on order), 458 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon iTrader: (3)	Holy shit! First Meth kit that looks easy to install!! __________________ Wanna know my mods for my 335i? It's here! http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ght=blue+water Lamborghini's Mica Orange E93 M3 Akrapovic Exhaust //Challenge Rear CF diffuser//ESS VT-575 Supercharger
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NM_BMW Vishnu Powered 68 Rep 2,205 Posts Drives: 335xi, S1000RR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Proceding iTrader: (7)	Shiv, would there be any problems with the meth possibly getting recirculated through the DV's or VTA on a BOV because the nozzle is before both in your setup? __________________ 2008 335xi Sedan \| Titanium Silver \| Black Dakota PROcede v5 \| Vishnu Exhaust \| BMS DCI \| AR Catless DPs \| Helix FMIC \| Stett Charge w/ Tial BOV \| MORR VS8s \| KWv3
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SlicktopTTZ Captain 11 Rep 685 Posts Drives: 91 300ZX Twin-Turbo, 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	^ lol, nice one. Shiv, so the only reason you went back to DVs is so you wouldn't have the noise? With fast shifting on the 6mt and your boost hold between shifts does the BOV/DV even open?
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