E90Post
 


Studio RSR
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > All COBB Tuning AccessPORT Flash for N54 335i Discussion Here



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-07-2011, 09:09 AM   #265
MDORPHN
Colonel
291
Rep
2,898
Posts

Drives: AW 1M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wash, DC

iTrader: (0)

When might the AccessPORT be available for the N54s with the MSD85 DME (Z4 sDrive35is, 335is and the forthcoming 1 Series M Coupe)?

As I understand it, the tune in these three models -- each of which has a 7-second overboost feature -- are very similar except that the 1M will have an M Drive button sharpening throttle response.

Thanks.

Neil

P.S. I promise not to ask this question more than once a day
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:18 AM   #266
muskamatt
First Lieutenant
9
Rep
348
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

^could you link to thread?
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:19 AM   #267
muskamatt
First Lieutenant
9
Rep
348
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

[QUOTE=packinDSS;8636576]Fyi. New development. Shiv' repsonded to my asking why he and Terry (aka Mike) were so silent on all of this. I predicted what Shiv' said below in another thread right after he announced vin locking in v5. It looks like flash tuning options may become more readily available as 2011 goes on.

sorry someone else posted. If you could link to this thread I would appreciate it. Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:20 AM   #268
packinDSS
Lead Foot
packinDSS's Avatar
18
Rep
409
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Sedan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by muskamatt View Post
^could you link to thread?
I.edited.my.post.and.add.the.link. dam droid is hard to use with.this.site.sometimes.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=473119
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:29 AM   #269
Imperator
Major
Imperator's Avatar
United_States
52
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: 2010 E92 335i
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Plano, Texas

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muffnbluff View Post
Is this through your own testing or has anyone actually brought one into the dealership?
I brought mine in yesterday with no issues. I returned it to "Map 0" before dropping it off so they could replace a trim piece and do an oil change but I didn't expect them to do any more than reset the OCI counter.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:33 AM   #270
techlogik
Lieutenant Colonel
70
Rep
1,565
Posts

Drives: 2020 M340i Dravit Grey
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: FL

iTrader: (2)

Cool things with this is ability to log..although didn't see what could be logged anywhere..maybe missed that link?

No 07 support? That isn't good. Pretty much every flash out there does support 07.
__________________
2020 M340i: Dravit Grey Mettalic. Loaded.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:36 AM   #271
pikemike420
Private First Class
9
Rep
128
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Sedan
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by techlogik View Post
Cool things with this is ability to log..although didn't see what could be logged anywhere..maybe missed that link?

No 07 support? That isn't good. Pretty much every flash out there does support 07.


I think they will find that most people with 2007's are very eager to mod as most are coming out of warranty if they aren't CPO.

Should be a big market there.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:38 AM   #272
Imperator
Major
Imperator's Avatar
United_States
52
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: 2010 E92 335i
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Plano, Texas

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by techlogik View Post
Cool things with this is ability to log..although didn't see what could be logged anywhere..maybe missed that link?

No 07 support? That isn't good. Pretty much every flash out there does support 07.
Go back and look for my posts to see details on this. '07 cars require a different firmware revision which is currently in the works.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 09:51 AM   #273
UltraRacer13
Wannabe Track Rat
UltraRacer13's Avatar
British Virgin Islands
68
Rep
930
Posts

Drives: 17 OG M2
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Imp- Did anyone else show up last night? I would have loved to come. Thanks for taking the lead on this!
__________________
2017 OG M2
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 10:07 AM   #274
Imperator
Major
Imperator's Avatar
United_States
52
Rep
1,175
Posts

Drives: 2010 E92 335i
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Plano, Texas

iTrader: (8)

Thanks! gstno1 and 4DR Assassin showed up last night and saw the dyno as well as a little map-switching demonstration. They're going to do this again next month.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 10:18 AM   #275
AWD Addict
Chief Executive
AWD Addict's Avatar
300
Rep
2,886
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi 6spd Coupe
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Boston

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2008 335xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by atlharry View Post
That was the updated dyno for the 135.

edit: Damn, Clap135 called you out first...
Doh! Apologies!

That said, it's not that far off from the 335 run, so I'm still not sure what you're after. I wouldn't be surprised at that difference between two same-year 335s
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 10:24 AM   #276
E60orBust
Captain
United_States
87
Rep
825
Posts

Drives: "The Brothers //M-Sport" E90/2
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MD

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmalhas View Post
If any of your offices are near DC I wouldn't mind testing it on mine
But East coast guys tend to get the shaft when it comes to local tuning houses. I can only think of CP-E off the top of my head.
__________________
Down for Maintenance
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 10:34 AM   #277
dmboone25
Lieutenant General
dmboone25's Avatar
4972
Rep
10,200
Posts

Drives: 2024 Golf R / 2022 718 Spyder
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 E92 328i  [10.00]
2007 328i  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by E60orBust View Post
But East coast guys tend to get the shaft when it comes to local tuning houses. I can only think of CP-E off the top of my head.
They aren't all over the Midwest either.
__________________
Past rides: 2016 981 BGTS, 2020 MINI JCW, 2017 F80, 2015 981 CS, 2014 F22 235, 2011 E82 135, 2008 E82 135, 2007 E92 328, 2007 E92 328 (My lady drives an OG M2. So does my dad)
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 10:49 AM   #278
dryicerx
First Lieutenant
27
Rep
379
Posts

Drives: 335is
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSailor View Post
Imp- Did anyone else show up last night? I would have loved to come. Thanks for taking the lead on this!
Yeah, I went for a while last night (actually I didn't know they had a meetup there but my timing matched up, lol).

Rob showed me the AccessPort in action, flashing maps (surprisingly quick), etc in detail with his own 335i, and I was really impressed. Got to experience the stage1 riding shotgun, and even with 4 people on the 335i it was doing some pretty kick ass pulls.

What impressed me the most was the ease of use of the device. I was a bit skeptical when they said it only required ODBII... but it's the real deal, don't even have to open the hood. The device is super small, but packs a huge list of functions.

Good work Cobb.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 10:53 AM   #279
Rob@Cobb
Lieutenant
41
Rep
468
Posts

Drives: 2011 E92 335i ///M Pack
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDORPHN View Post
When might the AccessPORT be available for the N54s with the MSD85 DME (Z4 sDrive35is, 335is and the forthcoming 1 Series M Coupe)?

As I understand it, the tune in these three models -- each of which has a 7-second overboost feature -- are very similar except that the 1M will have an M Drive button sharpening throttle response.

Thanks.

Neil

P.S. I promise not to ask this question more than once a day
I was able to talk to a 335is last night to grab a ROM. (Thanks J!). Over the next few I will be ripping into the ROM to look at the tuning. However, we need to find a alpha tester with either 'is' car here in Austin to allow us to complete tuning on the car for the stage maps.

Cheers,
Rob
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 11:36 AM   #280
Boostin335
Lieutenant Colonel
Boostin335's Avatar
561
Rep
1,723
Posts

Drives: G82 M4CX, C8, MKIV Supra
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: North/Central NJ

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb View Post
I was able to talk to a 335is last night to grab a ROM. (Thanks J!). Over the next few I will be ripping into the ROM to look at the tuning. However, we need to find a alpha tester with either 'is' car here in Austin to allow us to complete tuning on the car for the stage maps.

Cheers,
Rob
Hey Robb, any xi yesterday or today?? Up to like 40 xiers waiting
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 11:41 AM   #281
deadlyrhythm
Second Lieutenant
Canada
46
Rep
238
Posts

Drives: 2009 BMW 335i
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmonton, Alberta

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW X5d  [0.00]
2009 335i  [0.00]
Perhaps I'm partially new to the game, but...
1. Why do the 135i and 335i have different stock HP #s, 240 vs 276HP, in the COBB dynos? That's a SIGNIFICANT difference in my mind. (Maybe it's just my mind)
2. Why are your run 2 & 3 (91 & 93) octane numbers at the EXACT same time? (12:18 and 7:44)
3. Why does the 335i only have a 63HP improvement, unlike the 135i which has 74HP?

Looking forward to picking up my COBB unit!
Attached Images
  
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 11:50 AM   #282
mithiral67
That guy
mithiral67's Avatar
117
Rep
5,740
Posts

Drives: 2015 Cayman GTS
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago Burbs

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlyrhythm View Post
Perhaps I'm partially new to the game, but...
2. Why are your run 2 & 3 (91 & 93) octane numbers at the EXACT same time? (12:18 and 7:44)
I thought the same thing. Also, whats the oct for stock and what is the boost targets of stock?
__________________
2015 - Cayman GTS - Stock
2011 - 335is e92 - Cobb PTF E40/Rob - Beck/AR/Helix (458 rwtq and 479 rwhp) - Retired
2007 - 911 Turbo - EP1/AMS (617 awtq and 500 awhp) - Retired
2008 - 335i e92 - Cobb/AR/Helix/OSS (384 rwtq and 356 rwhp) - Retired
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 11:59 AM   #283
Clap135
Brigadier General
Clap135's Avatar
102
Rep
3,460
Posts

Drives: 2009 N54
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sticky's Mom House

iTrader: (1)

Dynos for the 1 and 3 were done at different locations guys. I believe the 3 dyno was done at combs main facility which is higher up in elevation compared to the 1 that was done in Texas. The baseline don't matter...the delta does. Being that its within 10 whp..it doesn't really make a difference. Stock cars on here vary by 20-30 whp depending on location. Also the reason why the 1 held more power to redline is probably due to the same reason....elevation. more air equal better flow especially up top where the stock turbo alwAys.struggle.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 12:03 PM   #284
MDORPHN
Colonel
291
Rep
2,898
Posts

Drives: AW 1M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wash, DC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clap135 View Post
The baseline don't matter...the delta does.
+1

Neil
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 12:30 PM   #285
UltraRacer13
Wannabe Track Rat
UltraRacer13's Avatar
British Virgin Islands
68
Rep
930
Posts

Drives: 17 OG M2
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boostin335 View Post
Hey Robb, any xi yesterday or today?? Up to like 40 xiers waiting
He just PM'ed me. I am headed to the plano shop today.
__________________
2017 OG M2
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2011, 12:30 PM   #286
COBB Tuning
Major
COBB Tuning's Avatar
233
Rep
1,051
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen1516 View Post
I did read the thread...there was a big difference in 135 and 335 numbers. I believe the 135 made less than the 335 (however I can't find that dyno now) COBB found a calibration change and they were to redyno the 135 and hence...

But yet there is still such a big difference. Previously I think the 135 made even less than the 335 on the dyno now it's flip flopped.
Mugen,

The 335i was on our Mustang dyno in Austin, TX and the 135i was on our Mustang dyno in Portland, OR. We believe the difference is caused by the parasitic loss calibration files being used on each dyno, but ultimately, there are a lot of variables in comparing the two cars across the two dynos. The Mustang dyno is much more of a tuning tool than a peak power measurement device, and focusing on the gains rather than the peak numbers will make much more sense when comparing between dynos.

We use a tool called Dyno Database Online, which lets us present dyno pulls publicly in a nice interactive format. I've pulled up a comparison between the two cars. It's a little busy with all of the graphs, but it shows the differences between the cars and dynos you are referring to. You can click on the graph to be linked to DDBO. If you focus on gains, the results are similar.



As we build out the database with customer cars and their baseline pulls, staged pulls and custom tune pulls it will provide a lot more data for folks to compare performance numbers with. We invite you to play with Dyno Database Online with the other platforms we support so you can see the depth of dyno data we will be building up as the AccessPORT matures for BMW vehicles.

You can navigate using the Car Chooser and select Make, Model, Year, Owner and even Shop. Any dropdown you leave alone will provide results for the entire range under that dropdown.

Have fun!

Gary
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
135i cobb, 335i cobb, 535i cobb, accessport n54, bmw cobb, bmw cobb tuning, cobb 135i, cobb 335i, cobb 535i, cobb ap, cobb bmw, cobb n54, cobb tuning bmw, cobb tuning n54, cobb tuning n55, flash n54, flash n55, n54 accessport, n54 cobb, n54 cobb tuning, n54 flash, n54 flash tune, n55 cobb, n55 flash, n55 flash tune

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:17 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST