[Not a Diesel!!!]

Gave it some beans tonight.

You can take all your fancy new tech but there is something uniquely satisfying about winding a naturally aspirated engine through the rev range enjoying that linear power delivery.

I guess the E90 was the last of the n/a engines be it V8 or straight 6.

If you are young and have only ever had a car with torque boosted turbo's get yourself one whether it be a E46M3, 330i or 130i....its worth it.

[Sparky68]

JB4 gives you all that and a lot more power on tap, why do you think the new M cars are turbo charged?

[Lawton438]

Personally I think the only reason manufacturers are turbocharging their cars is for emissions reasons, nothing to do with power output as turbos have been around for a long time and have only recently been introduced into more and more cars to bring them inline with new tax and emsissions laws for 2020

[Rich_D]

Originally Posted by Lawton438

Personally I think the only reason manufacturers are turbocharging their cars is for emissions reasons, nothing to do with power output as turbos have been around for a long time and have only recently been introduced into more and more cars to bring them inline with new tax and emsissions laws for 2020

This ^

[Sparky68]

Originally Posted by Lawton438

Personally I think the only reason manufacturers are turbocharging their cars is for emissions reasons, nothing to do with power output as turbos have been around for a long time and have only recently been introduced into more and more cars to bring them inline with new tax and emsissions laws for 2020

Exactly, more power less cubic inches less emissions, everyone wins

[Rich_D]

Originally Posted by Sparky68

Exactly, more power less cubic inches less emissions, everyone wins

Nah, I'd much rather have an E92 M3 with a normally aspirated V8 than it's modern equivalent, the F82 M4 with a turbocharged I6, even though it might be faster and better on fuel.

I've just sold an E39 M5 (literally tonight) and there is something very special about a powerful normally aspirated engine

[Thermobaric]

The M4 doesn't really interest me but the E92 M3, damn, That sound

[Sparky68]

Originally Posted by Rich_D

Nah, I'd much rather have an E92 M3 with a normally aspirated V8 than it's modern equivalent, the F82 M4 with a turbocharged I6, even though it might be faster and better on fuel.

I've just sold an E39 M5 (literally tonight) and there is something very special about a powerful normally aspirated engine

Yes there is, the sound of them constantly hitting the petrol station......

If BMW know the way forward is forced induction, who am i to argue

[dockishen]

there is little else to beat the aural note of a normally aspirated straight six in a tunnel with the windows down ! ahhh heaven .

dockish

[m20b25]

Have to agree, I'll take a NA I6 or V8 any day. Just moved from an n53 330 to a s65 v8 m3. Both great engines.

[Rich_D]

Originally Posted by Sparky68

Yes there is, the sound of them constantly hitting the petrol station......

If BMW know the way forward is forced induction, who am i to argue

Emissions is what is driving forced induction, it's a sign of the times

Out of interest how many miles do you get to a full tank and what sort of mpg figures?

[Sxanth]

They are relentless and so smooth i have both the e46 and e90 330 and both run perfectly. The e46 is on 160k now too! Queue the ruin of my weekend when it blows up now I have said that.

335 would be nice but I would like an f10/f30 in 2-3 years and haven't had much luck with other cars lately so wanted to play safe. Plus finding a 4 door one with low mileage wasn't possible.

[Dann]

I switched my E36 328i for my 335i and I must say the M52 was a much more satisfying engine to Go on around with. By no way was it fast but it sounded so good

[MattOz]

I've had A 330i, E46 M3's, E39 M5's and an E60 M5 before my current 335i. You can't beat a normally aspirated lump in my experience. The N54 in my 335i is hugely competent, and it even manages to sound pretty good too, but it's no S54, S62 or S85 when it comes to throttle response.

Emissions are leading the turbo resurgence, so they're definitely here to stay for our performance cars of the near future.

[JM85]

The E9x M3 V8 dosen't really do it for me there was just something about the reasp of the E46 M3, love it

Figured the thread could benefit from some pic's

[Dann]

I love the raspy exhaust on E46 M3s. When my 328i was cold it used to sound like one.

This thread needs some noise (how the feck do you embed videos?)

[Rich_D]

Well, if we're doing pics & noise...

What a car!

Sadly I sold it on Friday...

[Jimmy-F46 M-sport]

That's beautiful bud you must be gutted 😔

I have to say regarding this debate that the other day I heard a F10 M5 on the M8, the guy must have thought I was gonna try and get on to a slip road before him and gave it some beans, I just thought WTF!!! It was so muted compared to the E60 M5, Im not saying it was slow but there just wasn't the same aural abuse you get from the V10! But 10 out of 10 for ultimate Q car status as it was a dark blue colour and honestly looked like someone had just stuck quad pipes on a stock 5 series so I'm sure it would definetly surprise a few folk

[Rich_D]

That's quite normal for ///M cars, they are fairly quiet as standard, my E39 M5 was until I fitted the Milltek, E60's are the same, you need to change the exhaust to hear the V10 sing

[Jimmy-F46 M-sport]

Really 😳 one of my neighbours had a stock E92 M3 and at low speeds sounded more menacing than that F10 M5

[Jimmy-F46 M-sport]

Saying that it must be a sign of the times as I heard an RS5 start up the other day and even my wife commented that she thought it would have been louder lol stunning car mind

[Rich_D]

Originally Posted by jimmy-320d

Really 😳 one of my neighbours had a stock E92 M3 and at low speeds sounded more menacing than that F10 M5

Turbochargers dampen the exhaust noise even further