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      02-18-2015, 11:20 AM   #67
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Will those calipers fit the 335? Or should I stick with doing the f30 rear after I finish up the fronts?
Yes, they will fit:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=135i+brakes
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      02-18-2015, 12:20 PM   #68
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Thanks man! I have a lot of options now haha. Very intriguing. You should do a write up of what the best combination for people wanting to attempt the OEM Brembo's swap. Between this thread and the others, there seem to be quite a few combinations.
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      02-18-2015, 12:28 PM   #69
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I like these better

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330...aking/Caliper/
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      02-18-2015, 12:33 PM   #70
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Also it should fit..... the part number for stock 330 rear calipers are the same for the 335i. Since the 1-series rear calipers fit on the rear of the 330i... it should work for the 335i.
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      02-18-2015, 12:33 PM   #71
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Is it solely because of the color?
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      02-18-2015, 12:34 PM   #72
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Also it should fit..... the part number for stock 330 rear calipers are the same for the 335i. Since the 1-series rear calipers fit on the rear of the 330i... it should work for the 335i.
I address that in my post #67
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      02-18-2015, 12:35 PM   #73
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yes and price... i hate doing core exchanges unless they are in person....
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      02-18-2015, 12:50 PM   #74
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Thanks man! I have a lot of options now haha. Very intriguing. You should do a write up of what the best combination for people wanting to attempt the OEM Brembo's swap. Between this thread and the others, there seem to be quite a few combinations.
A lot of part are interchangeable, and not only between BMW but also other make and models, to cut down cost on research and development. BMW also doesn't really do drastic changes from platform to platform either.
For example:
Brakes on e36, e46, e90 and f30 are all interchangeable, especially in the front, non M models in particular.
Same with control arms starting with the e30, to e36 and e46. The e90 and f30 are different.
A lot of them are hybrids, look at the 1m, front from e90 and rear from e46

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      02-18-2015, 03:10 PM   #75
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A lot of part are interchangeable, and not only between BMW but also other make and models, to cut down cost on research and development. BMW also doesn't really do drastic changes from platform to platform either.
For example:
Brakes on e36, e46, e90 and f30 are all interchangeable, especially in the front, non M models in particular.
Same with control arms starting with the e30, to e36 and e46. The e90 and f30 are different.
A lot of them are hybrids, look at the 1m, front from e90 and rear from e46
Nice, did not know that. Well, my mind is set on the F30 4 piston fronts and F30 two piston rears or, F30 4 piston fronts and the e82 two piston rears if the F30 rears are too difficult. I'm going to start with the front and then work on the rears. When I get to that point, I may be bugging you for some help on how to get the rears to work without much modification. You have been an awesome help man
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Nice, did not know that. Well, my mind is set on the F30 4 piston fronts and F30 two piston rears or, F30 4 piston fronts and the e82 two piston rears if the F30 rears are too difficult. I'm going to start with the front and then work on the rears. When I get to that point, I may be bugging you for some help on how to get the rears to work without much modification. You have been an awesome help man
My honest advice is to go with the 135i set up on the rear. Yes the rotor is little smaller than stock 330/335i but the that can be compensated by more aggressive pads which will also help with front-rear brake bias.
Additionally, it would be a lot cheaper and a hell of a lot easier modification without having to modify both the hub knuckle and the f30 calipers. On top the caliper pistons from the 135i are smaller so the brake pedal feel will be firmer.
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fyi... the 330i has the same rear rotor as the 335i. vwetish your post you made... shows someone changing the size of the rotor to fit the rear one series calipers..... there was no need.
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My honest advice is to go with the 135i set up on the rear. Yes the rotor is little smaller than stock 330/335i but the that can be compensated by more aggressive pads which will also help with front-rear brake bias.
Additionally, it would be a lot cheaper and a hell of a lot easier modification without having to modify both the hub knuckle and the f30 calipers. On top the caliper pistons from the 135i are smaller so the brake pedal feel will be firmer.
That sounds like a winner then. I'm not too worried with the rotor being a tad bit smaller. I'm going to try and find the 370 mm BMW perf rotor for the front so with the smaller rear it should balance out. I need to start collecting these parts and send the rears out to get powdercoated.

As we talked earlier, with the 18" 313 fronts, if I throw a spacer on (maybe 5mm) do you think it would clear the wheel? Or is it simply the size of the inside barrel?
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      02-19-2015, 09:51 AM   #79
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That sounds like a winner then. I'm not too worried with the rotor being a tad bit smaller. I'm going to try and find the 370 mm BMW perf rotor for the front so with the smaller rear it should balance out. I need to start collecting these parts and send the rears out to get powdercoated.

As we talked earlier, with the 18" 313 fronts, if I throw a spacer on (maybe 5mm) do you think it would clear the wheel? Or is it simply the size of the inside barrel?
Spacer might help but I'm not 100% sure because of the wheel design.
The area shown in Black is to tall compared to other wheels and will most like rub on the caliper shown in Red.
My advice would be to sell the 313 and get another type of wheels Sorry
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Spacer might help but I'm not 100% sure because of the wheel design.
The area shown in Black is to tall compared to other wheels and will most like rub on the caliper shown in Red.
My advice would be to sell the 313 and get another type of wheels Sorry
That is what I was afraid of. I have wanted 19" 313's for a while, this will just be another reason to buy them lol. But, with the nicer looking brakes I will want them to be as visible as possible anyways...
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That is what I was afraid of. I have wanted 19" 313's for a while, this will just be another reason to buy them lol. But, with the nicer looking brakes I will want them to be as visible as possible anyways...
Why 313 ? Nothing special about the wheels. I have them. Came with the car. 19" and I use for winter with non stock tire sizes.
Just get wheels from here:
http://www.apexraceparts.com/
All of apexwheels 18x8.5 and 18x9 with offset around +30mm fit over the 370mm f30 brembo
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Why 313 ? Nothing special about the wheels. I have them. Came with the car. 19" and I use for winter with non stock tire sizes.
Just get wheels from here:
http://www.apexraceparts.com/
All of apexwheels 18x8.5 and 18x9 with offset around +30mm fit over the 370mm f30 brembo
I just like the style. They look nice on the car. I'm not 100% set on them though. If I find the ones that say "BMW Performance" on the lip, I'll probably pick some up. I can also try to throw the rears on the front and see if they will fit. The inside diameter should be the same between the two so I don't think it will matter but worth a try. If that is the case I can just get another set of rear rims to run on the front and just do a square 18x9 all around.
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      11-03-2015, 08:23 PM   #83
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Here's a set that is now on my Z3 MCoupe. You can see how we machined the rears and created a custom mounting bracket. Sorry for the large picture.
Amazing!! EMC I emailed you about this setup for my M coupe at your work. I would love to learn more about this kit and see some pictures on your coupe. Would be most interested in getting this setup if available.

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So how is the pedal feel on the mcoupe with the ctsv brakes?
The numbers on Pistons etc look pretty good so I'm guessing it should feel ok.

Thanks
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fyi... the 330i has the same rear rotor as the 335i. vwetish your post you made... shows someone changing the size of the rotor to fit the rear one series calipers..... there was no need.
Thats not correct.
At least not for pre-LCI. On 330 pre-LCI the rear disks are smaller than on the 335.
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Thats not correct.
At least not for pre-LCI. On 330 pre-LCI the rear disks are smaller than on the 335.
To my knowledge they are the same, at least is NA market:
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https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-33...ear/ES2561320/
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Might the 345x24 rotors from an E60 550i work with the rear cts-v calipers?
Are the parking brake shoes the same size?
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Might the 345x24 rotors from an E60 550i work with the rear cts-v calipers?
Are the parking brake shoes the same size?
Why are you entertaining this? There are better brakes easily available!
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