[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by lnxguy

Emulator passes 12v to the camera, where do you think it's getting power from? When my setup just stopped working emulator was only passing 3v to the camera.

Looking at the module above, I can't see the 12v trigger wire.

Also, its not a good idea to use the trigger wire from the cheap chinese emulators, because as you say, they don't always work right.

As for "where do you think it's getting power from?" Like i said in an earlier post, use a switched 12 ignition from the car and use the "trigger" to trigger a relay (or not), you could use the reverse lights to trigger a relay to provide power).

All i meant was, don't rely on the emulator to trigger the camera, just use it to provide the can bus commands to the cic.

However, if my post have caused confusion, my apologies.

[lnxguy]

Fair enough, you're probably right that it's smarter to use 12v from one of the reverse lights. Relying on the emulator to only provide commands via can bus is probably your best bet

[roadkillrob]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

Looking at the module above, I can't see the 12v trigger wire.

Also, its not a good idea to use the trigger wire from the cheap chinese emulators, because as you say, they don't always work right.

As for "where do you think it's getting power from?" Like i said in an earlier post, use a switched 12 ignition from the car and use the "trigger" to trigger a relay (or not), you could use the reverse lights to trigger a relay to provide power).

All i meant was, don't rely on the emulator to trigger the camera, just use it to provide the can bus commands to the cic.

However, if my post have caused confusion, my apologies.

I actually hooked up to the reverse lights in my car and it works great and I use the emulator to just do the can bus commands. Did this because the trigger wire didn't work on my emulator and I had previously had another camera setup in the car that used the reverse lights. In my sons car I used the same emulator and it powers the camera and it works but here and there it will not turn on the camera, it triggers CIC and goes to the backup screen but no pic, if you go to N and then R it will come on, so I may rewire to the reverse lights for better reliability.

[Jakg]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

I actually hooked up to the reverse lights in my car and it works great and I use the emulator to just do the can bus commands. Did this because the trigger wire didn't work on my emulator and I had previously had another camera setup in the car that used the reverse lights. In my sons car I used the same emulator and it powers the camera and it works but here and there it will not turn on the camera, it triggers CIC and goes to the backup screen but no pic, if you go to N and then R it will come on, so I may rewire to the reverse lights for better reliability.

Out of interest when you say no pic - did you mean you get a black screen or something, or does nothing appear on the screen at all - even the parking sensors?

[roadkillrob]

Originally Posted by Jakg

Out of interest when you say no pic - did you mean you get a black screen or something, or does nothing appear on the screen at all - even the parking sensors?

Yes switches to the screen with parking sensors and the spot where the picture should be but no picture, maybe 1 in 5 times the very first time you put it in reverse after starting the car, I think it does't power up the camera as the signal to tell it to put it on the reverse camera/parking sensor screen works and switches.

[Jakg]

Originally Posted by Jakg

Just a small bump. I'm still stuck with this!

For reference, I think my CIC build date is 12.2009.

My initial emulator used a pass-through loom that was wired incorrectly.

I bought another emulator but it still didn't work.

I've checked again today and I found some problems:

I used this diagram:


I've used the "euro" wiring and set RVC_CIC to wert_21 to accomodate.

I noted that the I'd got the CAN high and low wires reversed.

In addition, it didn't look like one of the CAN wires was connected properly.

Fixed it up, coded it again and...



We have a menu when shifting to reverse!

No picture unfortunately, but I'm guessing that the emulator isn't supplying power to the camera - I've seen before this can be unreliable?

It's a shame as it stays on screen when you move out of reverse until you move away - but if I connect to the reversing lights it'll cut the power in this scenario.
Maybe a switched live (i.e. maybe the emulators power?) would be a better source?

Is there a "safe" way of putting the car in reverse to test it with an autobox, without running myself over? I can't work it out as you have to hold it on the breaks. In a manual you could just leave it in reverse with the ignition on...

[lnxguy]

Just wire the camera into the 12V going to the reverse light.

[Jakg]

Originally Posted by lnxguy

Just wire the camera into the 12V going to the reverse light.

When I shift out of reverse, the cameras power will switch off, but the (now blank) display will still be on the dash, which I’m trying to avoid.

[Emilime75]

Use an always on with ignition on circuit and keep the camera powered when the car is on.

[Jakg]

Originally Posted by Jakg

My initial emulator used a pass-through loom that was wired incorrectly.

I bought another emulator but it still didn't work.

I've checked again today and I found some problems:

I used this diagram:


I've used the "euro" wiring and set RVC_CIC to wert_21 to accomodate.

I noted that the I'd got the CAN high and low wires reversed.

In addition, it didn't look like one of the CAN wires was connected properly.

Fixed it up, coded it again and...



We have a menu when shifting to reverse!

No picture unfortunately, but I'm guessing that the emulator isn't supplying power to the camera - I've seen before this can be unreliable?

It's a shame as it stays on screen when you move out of reverse until you move away - but if I connect to the reversing lights it'll cut the power in this scenario.
Maybe a switched live (i.e. maybe the emulators power?) would be a better source?

Is there a "safe" way of putting the car in reverse to test it with an autobox, without running myself over? I can't work it out as you have to hold it on the breaks. In a manual you could just leave it in reverse with the ignition on...

Finally, after what seems like an eternity, I got it working.

In my case, there was no ground on the camera - I'd tapped into boot light but that didn't work properly.
I used a ground from the rear lights and...



Not sure why I wasn't getting any voltage on the camera trigger wire originally, but clearly I am now.

I've fitted a couple of reversing cameras in my time but never had this much hassle. But it works now!

tl;dr
First emulator probably bad, passthrough loom definately so
Second emulator probably wired incorrectly (CAN+- swapped)
Ground camera wired up incorrectly.

[juliano_ew]

I'm still struggling to get my rear camera to work ...

Would anyone have a link where I can download the FSTool2 program?

[Jakg]

Originally Posted by juliano_ew

Would anyone have a link where I can download the FSTool2 program?

Not sure why you need it, but - https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25620139#post25620139

[ccfj1]

^^ indeed, fstool is only any use for loading FSC into the cic.

if you are having problems, then it can be only one of a few things.

1: the cic is not latest version of firmware
2: the pins into the cic are not the same as the RVC coding (wert21/wert23)
3: the emulator is not triggering correctly (or is faulty)
4: the camera is not being powered (or is faulty)
5: the coding in the cic is wrong.

That's pretty much it.

Do not use the power on trigger wire to power the camera, they are notorious for not supplying the correct voltage.

Only use the emulator to CAN trigger the cic into displaying the backup screen

[Iscrazzeid]

Hello ccfj1 thanks to your post on tv, I have adapted the dvbt2 series g on my e92 everything works perfectly so I used this configuration

TV 12 pin plug (x14454)

1: power
12: gnd

2: video +
7: shield
8: video -

cic single plug

18: video +
27: shield
28: video -

Coding: code tv option to car and then make sure you edit the cic confit so that the TV option is: -

TVM_VARIANTEN
tvm_dvb_t = activ

TV
is wert = 21 this selects the correct input pins for the tv video input. (18,27,28)


I want to add the emulator for the rear view camera, which pinout should I use? how should i change the coding ??

[ccfj1]

Hi,

if you also want the backup camera then make sure this is set to wert 23

RVC_CIC
wert_23

Use the camera video input pins. (21,23,24)

Set the other things in the cic as per

MACRO_PDC
aktiv

MACRO_REARVIEW
aktiv

MACRO_L6_PARKMENU
aktiv

PDC_DIRECTION
vertikal

BTW, did you need to update the firmware on you TV module for it to work on the e92?? (I did).

[Iscrazzeid]

the video pins (yellow rca) supplied with the emulator are only two, where do I connect them?

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by Iscrazzeid

the video pins (yellow rca) supplied with the emulator are only two, where do I connect them?

FBAS 3 = wert_23: (TRVSC)
- FBAS+, PIN 5 : PIN 21
- FBAS-, PIN 8 : PIN 24
- FBAS shield, PIN 7 : PIN 23

So use 21 and 24.

[Iscrazzeid]

OK thanks

[Iscrazzeid]

should i buy a cam in ntsc or in pal?

[ccfj1]

Not sure, I'm using the OEM camera and TRVSC module, I only use the emulator to trigger the cic to go into camera mode

[Iscrazzeid]

Which emulator are you using? can you advise me? I would like to take this

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAU

[devilzie]

Is it camera need to replace?

Works fine about 1 month, then start to flipped and flickering.
And finally this