[sherlockBMW]

Hello,

Recently I've been having issues with CIC iDrive and only the radio works.

I was having starting issues and the yellow battery warning and two garages told me the battery was OK but not charging and the alternator was faulty which has been replaced with a new genuine BMW part.

I also charged the battery up fully and the car is starting fine. As far as I'm aware the battery is the original in the car from 2008, I've had the car since 2012 and not replaced it.

The CIC iDrive is a retro fit using an emulator and has been in the car for 7 years without issue. Prior to that I only had the standard radio & Bluetooth for the phone.

After replacing the alternator CIC would intermittently run OK and I would have full function of Satnav, phone, parking sensors etc.

Now every time the screen doesn't come on and I have no activity from the controller or steering wheel controls for any function. The radio will work from the CIC unit, but will only stay on for 20 minutes, pressing the mute button will get audio back after a few seconds. Although when turning the car off and removing the key the radio will continue to play.

I have no other functions apart from the radio, no Bluetooth no parking sensors etc.

Using the Carly app I have the following error stored under Engine 003EED Power management quiescent current (layer PMRUHVERL)

Many thanks

[undecided1]

Originally Posted by sherlockBMW

Hello,

Recently I've been having issues with CIC iDrive and only the radio works.

I was having starting issues and the yellow battery warning and two garages told me the battery was OK but not charging and the alternator was faulty which has been replaced with a new genuine BMW part.

I also charged the battery up fully and the car is starting fine. As far as I'm aware the battery is the original in the car from 2008, I've had the car since 2012 and not replaced it.

The CIC iDrive is a retro fit using an emulator and has been in the car for 7 years without issue. Prior to that I only had the standard radio & Bluetooth for the phone.

After replacing the alternator CIC would intermittently run OK and I would have full function of Satnav, phone, parking sensors etc.

Now every time the screen doesn't come on and I have no activity from the controller or steering wheel controls for any function. The radio will work from the CIC unit, but will only stay on for 20 minutes, pressing the mute button will get audio back after a few seconds. Although when turning the car off and removing the key the radio will continue to play.

I have no other functions apart from the radio, no Bluetooth no parking sensors etc.

Using the Carly app I have the following error stored under Engine 003EED Power management quiescent current (layer PMRUHVERL)

Many thanks

003eed is not related to cic, my 330d had that without nav. Again at the time battery was original to car and likely on way out, ended up with new battery when it finally died but that was probably from me barely using the car, was driving other 330d almost all the time. 003eed not been back since new battery. Weird things happen when battery on way out but not sure would explain what you've experienced. I'd certainly start with a new battery and code it properly though, can't hurt and probably needs it anyway.

[sherlockBMW]

Thanks, I’ve ordered a new battery.

[sherlockBMW]

I swapped the battery yesterday, registered it via the Carly app and everything was great and idrive functioning correctly.

Today I get back in and the screen is dead and the radio works as before cutting out after 30 minutes.

I cleared any errors via Carly yesterday after swapping the battery but this morning again I had the 003EED error.

Suggestions for what next to check?

[opjose]

Have you checked how much draw there is on the battery with the car off and asleep?

Have you checked the voltage with the car on and running? Alternator.

[sherlockBMW]

With the ignition off battery is reading 12.18 with the car running it’s 14.8.

Alternator has been replaced, how do I check it?

[undecided1]

I'm not convinced this is the same issue but I had similar on my other E92 with CIC pro nav, most of the time was fine but occasionally I'd start the car and things would work like music playback but display was just red screen, putting into reverse would give tones for distance but still nothing on screen, just red. Turn car off/on again and would go back to working again, red screen seems to be a known issue and I got BMW to change out the CIC unit under warranty but you say you have a blank screen instead so maybe not the same at all...

Ps seems I mixed my cars up 003EED was from the nav car not the other, Carly was showing 003EED under engine/motor.

Maybe this still helps, photo attached of the red screen and dates for each... Red screen was a while after 003EED spotted.

[opjose]

Originally Posted by sherlockBMW

With the ignition off battery is reading 12.18 with the car running it's 14.8.

Alternator has been replaced, how do I check it?

At 14.8 your alternator is ok.

Your emulator may be at fault.

[sherlockBMW]

Thanks,

I’ve never had a red screen so would suggest a different fault.

If I was to replace the emulator will it need coding?

Stupid question if I remove the emulator I assume I will lose sat nav, mine is hardwired into the loom if I was to cut the wires would this work or cause further issues?

[undecided1]

Originally Posted by sherlockBMW

Thanks,

I’ve never had a red screen so would suggest a different fault.

If I was to replace the emulator will it need coding?

Stupid question if I remove the emulator I assume I will lose sat nav, mine is hardwired into the loom if I was to cut the wires would this work or cause further issues?

OK I missed this was emulator if mentioned before, I'd remove it entirely from the equation. CIC can have self signed retrofit fsc certificates quite easily these days, use same VIN as the car and will be as if it had factory fitted nav and all functions available like bmw apps if wanted. Emulator is just another source of potential problems you can do without and could well be where the problem is. I'm guessing you have CIC Pro retrofitted with Premium maps?

[sherlockBMW]

Yes I have retrofitted pro and premium maps.

As the emulator is hardwired into the loom is it OK to just cut it out?

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by sherlockBMW

Hello,

Recently I've been having issues with CIC iDrive and only the radio works.

I was having starting issues and the yellow battery warning and two garages told me the battery was OK but not charging and the alternator was faulty which has been replaced with a new genuine BMW part.

I also charged the battery up fully and the car is starting fine. As far as I'm aware the battery is the original in the car from 2008, I've had the car since 2012 and not replaced it.

The CIC iDrive is a retro fit using an emulator and has been in the car for 7 years without issue. Prior to that I only had the standard radio & Bluetooth for the phone.

After replacing the alternator CIC would intermittently run OK and I would have full function of Satnav, phone, parking sensors etc.

Now every time the screen doesn't come on and I have no activity from the controller or steering wheel controls for any function. The radio will work from the CIC unit, but will only stay on for 20 minutes, pressing the mute button will get audio back after a few seconds. Although when turning the car off and removing the key the radio will continue to play.

I have no other functions apart from the radio, no Bluetooth no parking sensors etc.

Using the Carly app I have the following error stored under Engine 003EED Power management quiescent current (layer PMRUHVERL)

Many thanks

The problem is the emulator has failed and the can bus information is not being passed to the cic from the car.

Either replace the emulator or code the cic to the cars vin and install the FSC certs.

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by undecided1

I'm not convinced this is the same issue but I had similar on my other E92 with CIC pro nav, most of the time was fine but occasionally I'd start the car and things would work like music playback but display was just red screen, putting into reverse would give tones for distance but still nothing on screen, just red. Turn car off/on again and would go back to working again, red screen seems to be a known issue and I got BMW to change out the CIC unit under warranty but you say you have a blank screen instead so maybe not the same at all...

Ps seems I mixed my cars up 003EED was from the nav car not the other, Carly was showing 003EED under engine/motor.

Maybe this still helps, photo attached of the red screen and dates for each... Red screen was a while after 003EED spotted.

RED screen means that the CIC is faulty, something has got corrupted, i would suggest that you reflash the cic (63,62 and A0), do them with an icom and do them in the correct order.

Fingers crossed it will fix the red screen problem

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by sherlockBMW

Yes I have retrofitted pro and premium maps.

As the emulator is hardwired into the loom is it OK to just cut it out?

No, you will need to resolder the Can bus wires back to the original configuration.

Thats said, it could be just take the emulator/hardwired extension lead (if its been done that way) out.

If you remove the emulator, the nav will gray out, but all other functions (not apps), will work.

You could script the cic so it still works, but updating the maps become more difficult.

Best would be to patch the cic and use the self signed certs and recode the cic to your car. you will need to be running the latest version of firmware for this.

[sherlockBMW]

Thank you for al the help. I have removed the emulator and its wiring and everything is now working correctly. As expected Sat Nav is now disabled but that was less of my concern when I wanted everything else to work as the priority.

[ccfj1]

Perfect, I would script enable the cic or change the FSC codes to reflect your vin.

[Mc 007]

Hello
Have a trouble with my CIC,radio stations vanish, when this happens also the volume vanish from every source,also the navi voice
Other works perfectly,what can be?

[TSilver335i]

Originally Posted by Mc 007

Hello
Have a trouble with my CIC,radio stations vanish, when this happens also the volume vanish from every source,also the navi voice
Other works perfectly,what can be?

Did you do any recent coding? I had an issue where RADIO_IBOC changed to nicht_aktiv changing it to aktiv fixed the radio stations

[Mc 007]

Originally Posted by TSilver335i

Did you do any recent coding? I had an issue where RADIO_IBOC changed to nicht_aktiv changing it to aktiv fixed the radio stations

Yes,i had early navi CCC and from when i install CIC this trouble come out,this happens immediattly when i start drive and after some mins sound come back,also radio station list
If the car stay parked with motor on or off no troubles