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      10-23-2011, 02:47 AM   #1
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CHINA - disgraceful




What can I say about this - just watch it - be warned - it's graphic.

I despair of the human race sometimes.
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      10-23-2011, 02:54 AM   #2
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OMFG! I cannot believe this. I have children this age, this is insane. They just walked by. That car ran over her leg. This is horrible! I feel horrible.
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That has made my blood boil and am deeply shocked by the despicable behaviour shown by those individuals.

Without sounding discriminatory.....where are these peoples moral standards??!!
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It was featured quite heavily on the 'Mail Online' site all of last week, and I found it very disturbing viewing.

It does beggar belief and outrage.
Unfortunately, and sadly unsurprisingly, the very young girl has since died.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10...s-in-hospital/
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      10-23-2011, 03:23 AM   #5
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Yes it was on the news last week. This is horrible, and make us wonder where are we haeding to, and making us realise how is the world and people changing..

The little girl unfortunately passed away a few days later
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My miswah showed me this the other day. Awful.
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Truly shocking behaviour. Don't know how those people could just walk by. I was reading something about this and it said people don't get involved in China as they can be made financially responsible but this does not excuse it. Terrible way for such a young child to die.
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They're not bad people or irresponsible.

It's the bystander effect/Genovese syndrome
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They're not bad people or irresponsible.

It's the bystander effect/Genovese syndrome

I disagree

"The probability of help has in the past been thought to be inversely related to the number of bystanders; in other words, the greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help. The mere presence of other bystanders greatly decreases intervention. This happens because as the number of bystanders increases, any given bystander is less likely to notice the incident, less likely to interpret the incident as a problem, and less likely to assume responsibility for taking action"

There were no bystanders from what I could make out?
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This explains it better for me, but there is also comment made of the fact that people are sued fro helping sometimes aswell.

"Other commentators believe the Chinese have always been like this — connected and responsible for their immediate family, indifferent to everyone else. As The Sydney Morning Herald comments,

A study by Professor Yunxiang Yan, an anthropologist at University of California, Los Angeles, found that China’s traditional morality code still applies strictly to existing relationships but that it has struggled to adapt to a modern world where strangers frequently interact.
A reluctance to help has been exacerbated by prominent cases of extortion where Good Samaritans have been ripped off by those they have helped.
The argument is that the helper must have contributed to the injury otherwise they would not have helped."
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I disagree

"The probability of help has in the past been thought to be inversely related to the number of bystanders; in other words, the greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help. The mere presence of other bystanders greatly decreases intervention. This happens because as the number of bystanders increases, any given bystander is less likely to notice the incident, less likely to interpret the incident as a problem, and less likely to assume responsibility for taking action"

There were no bystanders from what I could make out?
1. We have one angle as a view.

2. People going by via car or bicycle count as bystanders.

It's just like, if I saw someone lying on the road in desperate need of an adrenaline shot in the leg, would I give it to them?

Hell no.
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I despair of the human race sometimes.
Totally agree Paul, what the hell is wrong with some people?
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I don't think that the bystander effect or apathy can be considered in this instance as to take effect you need one or more people as bystanders(not people passing) ie the more people as fixed bystanders,the greater the possibility of the individual not taking action.
As can be seen,nobody actually stands near or next to the girl long enough for any another person(s) to suffer the syndrome.
I don't know what the real reason is-being brought up in a society where human rights are frowned upon or the fact,as has been mentioned,that in China,if you kill someone,the monetary implications are less than if the "victim" is still alive!
I would be interested in a Chinese person giving their opinion on the possible reasons behind the inaction.
I just hope that these type of people and anyone else unwilling to help are in the minority-probably not though...
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The term "diffusion of responsibility" comes to mind in this instance....
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What was she doing wandering on her own?
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Read this on BBC the other day.

I have a little boy who is 3... and i cant bring myself to click on the link to watch the vid - in fact when i saw the vid embedded.. i scrolled down quick.

It disgusts me.... and has caused uproar in china.
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I believe the girl wandered off from a shop that her parents ran in the market

Sadly what happened with regards to the bystanders is atypical of the Chinese mentality or culture. The Chinese are actually a very selfish and self-centred culture, only thinking of themselves as individuals and to hell with anyone else. It is rare for a Chinese person to be magnanimous and caring for others in their attitude, and even more so in mainland China than in Hong Kong. British culture has influenced and shaped much of Hong Kong so that it is more human and open, but mainland China is still playing catchup and unfortunately that attitude that is shown on the video with the little girl happens every single day in China.

It is despicable and just shows how backward Chinese culture can be.
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It makes me sick to the stomach watching the video..even though China is an up and coming economic superpower,they have a lot to learn from the rest of the world as far as humanity and technology innovation R&D goes. China is very good at making fake stuffs, cheap workforce and exporting prostitutes and that's about it really. An acquaintance once told me that in China, if someone was involved in a hit and run, they would make sure the victim is dead or beyond resuscitation to avoid paying out huge compensation fees to the victim's family..not sure how true this is but it all makes sense now once i had seen this video. Apparently the 2 yr old toddler has died in ITU of severe head injuries. Fucking arse hole..hope they rot in hell! Completely agreed with what E92fan has said. No disrespect to people from China but China will never be like the USA. Hope i don't have to eat my words someday
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I guess how Tony has described the Chinese culture goes someway to explaining their fondness for ripping off the rest of the world with their sub-standard fakes and/or copy-cat products.....if they're that self-centred then they're going to have little regard for the impact to both the people/business that they have copied from and the customers who buy their unsafe or poor quality products.

Back onto the subject of this, I'm very shocked that any human being can act in this way and watch this happen without doing anything at all about it. In the UK, we certainly don't live in a perfect society by any means but I'd like to think that even the lowest of the low-life would actually do something if they saw something like this. There again, maybe not?
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Hope i don't have to eat my words someday
Well, I hope that someday you do and China does adopt some of the better cultural traits of the developed world .....because that would surely mean the country has improved beyond the situation seen in the video!
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I don't think it's the "bystander" bullshit syndrome.

Look at the vid I posted with the motor cyclist and the BMW. Everyone came together to rescue him from under the car.
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I saw the first 10seconds and had to stop. My little girl is two next month it's just too easy to connect how that can happen, I'm totally paranoid about my kids running into the road, I'm appalled that nobody had it in them to comfort, help or just call emergency services.
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