[Blown284]

Is there a time card thread out there that shows the 335d's out here and the 1/4 mile times, mods, etc?

[Soonerbilly]

Yes but some are MISSING interiors and hoods and all kind of crap. Hard to compare stuff subjectively without car weight and air density and few other factors. That being said. Seen a few cars recently running 11.9- 12.4 on stock turbos fuel only. 11.9 with drag radials. Low 12s at 112+ mph is pretty nice for a #3800+ car that also gets 35+ mpgs.

[Blown284]

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

Yes but some are MISSING interiors and hoods and all kind of crap. Hard to compare stuff subjectively without car weight and air density and few other factors. That being said. Seen a few cars recently running 11.9- 12.4 on stock turbos fuel only. 11.9 with drag radials. Low 12s at 112+ mph is pretty nice for a #3800+ car that also gets 35+ mpgs.

Sure. Back in the day, most of those variables were included (weight, mods) would be included.

[SPKFOX]

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

Yes but some are MISSING interiors and hoods and all kind of crap. Hard to compare stuff subjectively without car weight and air density and few other factors. That being said. Seen a few cars recently running 11.9- 12.4 on stock turbos fuel only. 11.9 with drag radials. Low 12s at 112+ mph is pretty nice for a #3800+ car that also gets 35+ mpgs.

Now that I bought a new explorer I'm going to be taking mine on a diet I think... GF doesn't have to ride in it anymore unless she really wants to... 😂

With a pair of race seats and lighter wheels/set of r888s it'd be fun to see what a 200k mile stock long block stage 2 car on water meth could run. I know one of the local guys did 12.4 @ 115 or something super respectable in full OEM trim.

[Soonerbilly]

115 mph is pretty nice power....must be a little more than stock though....hybrids or meth or both.

[Torqu3]

I'm seeing stock turbo and no meth run 12.03 and 11.998 and it's still going deeper. Over on the North American BMW Diesel Owners Group on FB.

[Soonerbilly]

Originally Posted by Torqu3

I'm seeing stock turbo and no meth run 12.03 and 11.998 and it's still going deeper. Over on the North American BMW Diesel Owners Group on FB.

Mine went 12.4 @ 112.39 with 1.979 60 ft time at 3980#s. The car your talking had drag radials and hit 1.7 60 ft. and ran 11.9 @ 112.67. with no reported weight. There's a reason NHRA has WEIGHT REQUIREMENTS...its a BIG part of the equation.

ET is WAY more about launch and traction than Straight HP....plus like I said earlier if no WEIGHTS or air density factors are shared what's the freakin point. There's guys in Europe with no interior, no body panels or hoods running low tens at 130+ not the same animals that all of us actual daily driven cars are in.

So ill take my BRR tuned car with stock turbos and 255 continental tires and stack it up against any of the other tuned guys if we get true transparency and see what's up lol.

[Soonerbilly]

ET=traction/launch Trap speed=HP with all other factors being equal....drag racing 101 guys.

[Jpm57tt]

There are Plenty of Europeans cars running low 12 high 11 on stock turbos diesel only , it would be fun if we can compare even using GPS based tools like dragy and vbox , my car for ex it's a full weight e91 with my tune , egr delete, swirl flaps and DP, light weight wheels , lightweight battery, the rest totally stock including filter etc. At 3806 lbs (including lightweight modifications and me 225lbs)
Its does 12,46 at 115+mph on dragy and 12,45 at 116mph with vbox .

[335dM]

I'm on Malone 2.9, running Orion big intercooler, full P&L exhaust, ATM intake, fully deleted, Rod sutphin latest tcu tune, Wavetrac lsd, diff brace, poly bushings, Ohlins R&T coil overs, Aquamist meth using dual nozzle @ 900cc +-, drag radial DR2's 245/40-18 (but can't heat them up properly, need to install a line lock) stock turbos
12.1@ 115.6 mph
60 ft 1.89
Trunk had about 60-70 lbs of stuff in it, baby seat in the back seat installed.
Original owner of this m-sport

[Soonerbilly]

I would think you could get a lower 60ft with Drags...what rpm you launch at?

[Jpm57tt]

116,1 mph trap speed , that is the diff between dragy and vbox .

[335dM]

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

I would think you could get a lower 60ft with Drags...what rpm you launch at?

Around 2k
With a line lock and when DR2's will be broken in I'll be able to drop it to 1.7 for sure.
Now my launch control on my tune is set to 2700rpm

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by Jpm57tt

116,1 mph trap speed , that is the diff between dragy and vbox .

Dragy always reads slow, usually 1mph, compared to Vbox or actual track timing. I think its good that it errs on the side of conservative.

ET is always dead on or .01-.04 off, barely different.

[Soonerbilly]

JP...what mods?

[Jpm57tt]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Dragy always reads slow, usually 1mph, compared to Vbox or actual track timing. I think its good that it errs on the side of conservative.

ET is always dead on or .01-.04 off, barely different.

If you compare it with a track....it will depend on what track( some tracks are faster that others) there is plenty of info regarding this.
But its perfect to measure in conjunction with the vbox and perfexpert you can get a super good data and since l do my tests in the exactly same road its pretty consistent.

[Jpm57tt]

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

JP...what mods?

Hi

My tune , swirl flaps delete, egr voided but still in place , dp,lightweight wheels 10 lbs each (lighter), lightweight battery 31.4lbs lighter than the oem , xhp stage 3 tune , rest complete stock, no modified intake (oem filter)etc ,3806 lbs race weight including me .
In favor of course its the ability to tune my car , the rest its super simple , l would like to add that l do this for hobby (not business)its keeps my stress at bay .
At the moment lm working in a complete intake system , the results so far have been excellent, just a filter change have gained 14 ps and 17 nm torque with the perfexpert which are inline with the logs l have done (l have not measured 1/4 mile time yet due to winter time)lm a partner with a important race team so working in a flow bench for testing , what l can say at the moment , the stock box its restricted its only flow 315cfm including the oem filter, maf (the bottle neck of the system )at 9.96 to 10 inch of h2o .Regards

[Torqu3]

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

Mine went 12.4 @ 112.39 with 1.979 60 ft time at 3980#s. The car your talking had drag radials and hit 1.7 60 ft. and ran 11.9 @ 112.67. with no reported weight. There's a reason NHRA has WEIGHT REQUIREMENTS...its a BIG part of the equation.

ET is WAY more about launch and traction than Straight HP....plus like I said earlier if no WEIGHTS or air density factors are shared what's the freakin point. There's guys in Europe with no interior, no body panels or hoods running low tens at 130+ not the same animals that all of us actual daily driven cars are in.

So ill take my BRR tuned car with stock turbos and 255 continental tires and stack it up against any of the other tuned guys if we get true transparency and see what's up lol.

If I can ever get to a drag strip I'll let you know what's up. I'm 99% positive that the 11.998 and the 11.85 and the 12.03 were all full weight minus the DEF tanks. The guys in Europe are not of any concern to me, as I don't care what they do.

We all used to be so adamant about who had more HP, and then it was all about the lowest smoke output, and then it was all about drag times, and now it's all about DA and apparently weight is a thing now too. Why can't we just be happy stock turbos are in the 11s now and stop being so against one another?

[Charged]

Here some videos 1/4mile results: https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1199862