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      08-06-2018, 12:15 PM   #1
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Exclamation BMS Filters = S&B Filters (thats who makes them)

So i wanted to replace my BMS intake filters for my N54 without having to pay
70 dollars for red and i think ts 84 for blue plus shipping. After doing research I found out that S&B filters makes them for burgertuning. I didnt see anything posted on the forums on this so decided to share this with you guys. They are same exact ones minus the logo and they sell for 31.58 a piece for red or blue. same price. The rep that works for them confirmed the exact dimensions too.
the part number for red is R0633 and Blue is R0948. I went for the Blue and my ground Shipping was 8 bucks from CA to PA. You can also find them on amazon (NOT PRIME) for same price but the shipping is 11 bucks as i recall. Will update this when i get them but here are the links

https://www.sbfilters.com/replacemen...-filters/r0948

https://www.sbfilters.com/replacemen...-filters/r0633

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Nice, wish I saw this a week ago before I replaced my current BMS filters. Still a good find.
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While S&B manufacturers filters for BMS, their N54 DCI uses a proprietary design and part number. The filter dimensions are larger, there is an internal stop for the BMS intake adapter tube, the filter oiling specifications are different, and BMS branded filters are the only ones that are 50-state emissions legal in case you get pulled over and have to pop the hood.

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While S&B manufacturers filters for BMS, their N54 DCI uses a proprietary design and part number. The filter dimensions are larger, there is an internal stop for the BMS intake adapter tube, the filter oiling specifications are different, and BMS branded filters are the only ones that are 50-state emissions legal in case you get pulled over and have to pop the hood.

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hmm thats wierd because i was told its the exact same filter and dimensions, the only thing that is different is the logo. Does anyone ever pops the hood during a traffic stop anymore?
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hmm thats wierd because i was told its the exact same filter and dimensions, the only thing that is different is the logo. Does anyone ever pops the hood during a traffic stop anymore?
Those generic filters were the starting point back in 2010 when BMS first released the DCI but a lot has changed since then. They will fit but don't sit as nicely in the engine bay, have a shorter service interval, little worse flow, prone to misinstall on coupler side due to lack of stop, etc, etc.

As to poping the hood when you get pulled over in a modified looking car, it depends where you live. Doesn't cost much more to be legal though with the BMS DCI.

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Those generic filters were the starting point back in 2010 when BMS first released the DCI but a lot has changed since then. They will fit but don't sit as nicely in the engine bay, have a shorter service interval, little worse flow, prone to misinstall on coupler side due to lack of stop, etc, etc.

As to poping the hood when you get pulled over in a modified looking car, it depends where you live. Doesn't cost much more to be legal though with the BMS DCI.

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Cant wait to compare when they come in. Will keep you guys posted
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Yup just as thought they are the same as the ones i got before from BMS (except i got the metal top not the rubber one)
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I just put new Blue BMS ones on my car a week ago but will be taking them off after our work car show in a couple weeks. If I remember I will try and get some of the same pics done.
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Yes your photos confirm, those are not the latest (2014+) BMS DCI filters. The BMS filter is wider at the base and has the built in coupler stop. A lot of customers with the older BMS filters had issues with the couplers going in too far killing performance so be careful when installing and check from time to time especially if it suddenly feels slower.

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I just put new Blue BMS ones on my car a week ago but will be taking them off after our work car show in a couple weeks. If I remember I will try and get some of the same pics done.
nice! I figured at least someone can save a few bucks
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Yes your photos confirm, those are not the latest (2014+) BMS DCI filters. The BMS filter is wider at the base and has the built in coupler stop. A lot of customers with the older BMS filters had issues with the couplers going in too far killing performance so be careful when installing and check from time to time especially if it suddenly feels slower.

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well those are the same ones I got which were before 2014, but everything is fine, Im sure the New BMS filters are great, but the fact is that these are the cheaper than the ones I bought. Plus I dont need to pay extra for a coupler stopper.
Thanks for the input tho.
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ohh i see it. so I guess its a little tighter now? more rubbing?
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ohh i see it. so I guess its a little tighter now? more rubbing?
I don't think there is a big concern for rubbing
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Yes your photos confirm, those are not the latest (2014+) BMS DCI filters. The BMS filter is wider at the base and has the built in coupler stop. A lot of customers with the older BMS filters had issues with the couplers going in too far killing performance so be careful when installing and check from time to time especially if it suddenly feels slower.

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Mike, you're saying that that there's a performance difference between the two? I highly doubt that, considering that there's a marginal; IF Any performance gained from the intake. I think you're just trying to protect terry from a loss of business. Also, are you saying that terry switched to a different manufacturer after they were already making intakes for terry???
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Mike, you're saying that that there's a performance difference between the two? I highly doubt that, considering that there's a marginal; IF Any performance gained from the intake. I think you're just trying to protect terry from a loss of business. Also, are you saying that terry switched to a different manufacturer after they were already making intakes for terry???
S&B has always made BMS' filters. It says so right on their intake page:

"Featuring high quality S&B inverted cone filters the BMS Dual Cone Performance Intake offers the highest possible flow in an attractive and easy to install/remove package. Not to mention the intoxicating sound. This intake completely replaces your restrictive factory airboxassembly. Includes anodized black aluminum couplers and all required hardware. Does NOT require any cutting or drilling. Mounts to factory inlets. Filters available in red, white, and now blue. Made in the USA."

The problem with the off the shelf filters was the velocity stack requires very careful inlet tube placement, customers would screw it up, not gain power, and complain. BMS resolved this with a proprietary filter that has a stop for the coupler, and at the same time made the filter larger so they'd fit better in the engine bay and have a longer service life. And got them 50-state emissions approved. Is all that worth $10 more than the generic filters? Not to everyone apparently. Different strokes for different folks. I'm just pointing out the differences as OP made it sound like BMS is still selling off the shelf filters like he got.

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You are absolutely right . I didn't realize the price op quoted was for each filter. So he is saving a whopping $7
I have the bms filters and when time comes to replace, I will use bms
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You are absolutely right . I didn't realize the price op quoted was for each filter. So he is saving a whopping $7
I have the bms filters and when time comes to replace, I will use bms
Thanks for the info.
Its not the whole point of saving money, and it was 71 shipped to me vs 80 plus shipping from BMS, it was a point of making a new thread to let everyone know that there is an alternative (since i couldn't find any information like this on the forum) Just giving info to the community that taught me a lot about my car.
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