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01-13-2016, 06:13 PM | #1 |
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Alpina B3 transmission flash > US Sport Flash
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I'm looking to change from my Alpina B3 old flash to the US Sport Flash since i hate the fact in D mode the gearbox changes all the time at 1500rpm. Im running a 450hp wedge tune and feel that it needs to go to 2k before it changes and i read that the US Sport Flash is the answer to my problems. The B3 also changes way to high in sport and turbo's have flapped out by that point. I googled the heck out it tonight but cant find where i can download the various flash files for my tranny. I found the B3 one on someone's dropbox link but does anyone know where i can get the 7601494 (US Sport Flash) from as i read its the best flash. Would also be nice to get the others as well. Any help to point me in the right direction would be appreciated. This is the link i read about the various flashes: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22180 Im driving a 335i Late 2007 Coupe FBO Thanks |
01-13-2016, 06:37 PM | #2 |
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Do you already have the software setup? If so go here and download the correct DATEN file for your model car and import it - https://mega.nz/#F!F04S0TKA!e-r7GGF9SKKOgDXbihlAWw <-- 100% credit to wildcatcrazy, I have ZERO input on this list
Here is a chart of what the different TCU flashes 'offer'. I've tried 7615835 and like you thought the shift points were way too low. 1494 is a lot better but D still is not quite like stock. I'm seriously considering the Euro Sport flash just to see since on my car the US sport flash seems a bit sensitive Hope that helps a little. Last edited by Banana Clipper; 01-13-2016 at 11:10 PM.. |
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01-13-2016, 06:43 PM | #4 |
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I have heard the opposite about 7601494's M mode, that it shifts slower than Alpina and is delayed. I have not tried it yet but would like to as some point just to confirm.
I'm running 7603537 now.
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01-13-2016, 06:45 PM | #5 |
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Shifts are slower in D, I would agree with that, but it states 'feels like stock' and thats more what I personally want out of D. On the flip side, there is no shortage or lapse in time in the S mode shifting or when you floor it in D. Cant vouch for M since I rarely to never use it
How do you like 7603537? Have you run 7615835? How would you compare the 2? |
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I am going to try the US Sport flash soon.
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I'm tired of the way D mode is on the Alpina Flash. I constantly find myself downshifting with the paddle and I hate driving around in S mode cause it doesn't up shift to 6th and lugs around in the wrong gear from time to time. So I usually drive in D or M. I'll try get you guys some more feedback on my experience. I'm hoping the shifts and rev matching don't slow down, if anything they need to be faster. It's too bad we don't know someone that can do some real transmission tuning. I know a lot of guys in the Ford community and the transmission tuning really wakes up the cars. |
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Thanks dude. I have not setup the software yet, will read into that as see there are loads of tutorials on that. I cant see my car listed on that link goes as far as e89, can i just use that one or is this flash not compatible? Im e92. Cheers |
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01-13-2016, 07:30 PM | #10 | |
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D mode with gear indicator shifting at 2000 RPM miss daisy driving S mode with gear indicator shifting at 6500 RPM peddle to floor M mode shift nice and hard so you get a wee kick That would be perfect but for now I'll settle for the US Sport Flash. What's involved in your service and how much do you charge? Cheers |
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ZB # are incremental, and larger numbers are the newer files. 7615835 is the last Alpina B3s transmission flash that was released and has a direct impact on torque limiters. The Alpina flash is listed as an E90 N54B30ATL ECE flash and was released in 2010. It is the most recent N54 AT specific transmission flash that has been released for the GS19.11.0 transmission, again this is specific to the N54. All of the 760xxxx files were done in 2009. There are two older flashes you can try. 7603537 and 7603535... Both are E90 N54B30ATL ECE flashes. 7603527 is a flash for the E82 N54B30ATL and release in 2009, so I'm not sure how anyone made the assumption it was a 2011 sport flash. 7603541 is from an E89 N52B30OL. Not even an N54 transmission flash. 7601494 is also an E89 N52B30OL. Still not an N54 transmission flash. There are a lot of GKE215 ZB#'s you can play with. Not all were designed for making the power our cars make. I have to laugh when people without any knowledge of what they are talking about release old ZB#s as newer numbers as if they found something new. Depending on the power you are making, chances are you'll have torque limiters in higher gears or your clutch pack will slip because the line pressure isn't high enough. |
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Image is a screen cap from the URL the OP posted. Appreciate the info but my personal experience with 7615835 is that D runs like ass. Are you saying I'm better off running the stock TCU flash if I dont like 7615835? 7601494 feels 100% better in my car but I'm also not interested in ruining the tranny
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There is nothing stopping you from flashing your transmission with any of the GKE215 ZB#'s, but that doesn't mean it will perform well. We have no visibility to transmission line pressure. So we really don't know what the transmission is doing. You can disable UIF write and flash your transmission as much as you want. It takes all of 5 min unless you put an old ZB# that has a different base rom. Then it needs to go through the write process twice. Rom/Map... I personally run my car in manual all the time. Once in awhile I will drop it in drive for heavy traffic. So if you don't like drive you have two options, stay in sport or flash to another map that works and be happy with the side effects. |
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01-14-2016, 04:54 AM | #15 | |
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Anyway, can you elaborate on its impact on torque limiters? |
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01-14-2016, 08:44 AM | #16 | |
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On a side note, I'm having a hard time finding the 'correct' US Stock flash number. You wouldnt have that handy would you? I have an 01/09 E90. Appreciate the lessons Wedge, thanks again! |
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Most AT flashes run at a lower line pressure to keep a smooth shift and due to lower power the torque limiters are also lower. We don't fully understand the correlation between GKE215 table and torque limit 4 yet, but most who are running another flash other than the latest Alpina flash end up in torque limit 4 while WOT in 5th gear.
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Don't ask me why I remember that. Anyway, UIF history for the GKE215 is massive in comparison to the DME where it only has the original and the current. Look at the history to find your most recent ZB#. Flash that if available. As long as the UIF information last entry is a ZB# specifically for your car, you don't need to select a ZB from WinKFP. It looks at the history in SPDaten and will select the correct ZB. F1, F3, GKE215, OK, F8, F3 (program).. This will prompt you of current, and new ZB # it will flash. |
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