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      03-02-2017, 05:19 PM   #23
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I have the same error, then I searched on www.bmwfans.info and the latest ZB is 9283842. The next old ZB is 9283837, then 9242368, etc...

With Winkfp, show that I need update to ZB 9316149, then I serached manually on winkfp and I have the ZB 9242368.(I have SP daten V53).
Then I flash in comfort mode the 9242368, I have the christmas tree lights in dash and then finished, I started the car and nothing works.
Then open NCS expert,I choose only Kombi code in expert mode and start the car again and cluster is OK, all works, but I no see any change on sounds or icons. What I did wrong?

My BMW is from date 20.02.2017 E90 335i,

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I can confirm, this method works!

I was getting WinKFP error 3012 when trying the standard way of updating my Kombi.

I found out the ZUSB of my Kombi "1 version back" and manually selected that (but still in comfort mode).

It flashed, and worked!

I did not have a chance to try manually flashing the latest kombi as I ran out of time, but at least my kombi is now 2011 version, it used to be 2007.

I will try manually selecting the latest version and report back.

Vehicle I did this on was E92 M3, 07.07 production.

FYI :

Used to have ZUSB : 7840543
Flashed to : 7844311
WinKFP shows latest is : 7847279

Remember, don't just go selecting those for no reason... Those are specifically for an E9X M3... Perhaps european model, but I am not sure if the Kombi software between US / EUR differs.
You noticed any change on icons or sounds, chimes, etc? You have sp datens version ....?
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So I researched this Error on Flash Programming 211 error for many people who are trying to update KOMBI.

To research this problem I bought I used KOMBI (high) from eBay and coded it to my car. When trying to update with WINKFP I got the error above!

From UIF I had 9148031 and selected update was 9316154. However every time the flash would fail.

The problem appears to be with the associated HW-NR. I tried every ZB-NR which had the same HW-NR and each failed in the same way.

So, if you open your KOMBI ecu family HIS file E.g. C:/EC-APPS/NFS/DATA/HKOML2.HIS

and search for your auto suggested ZB-NR (in my case 9316154 you will see it appear in the column ZB-NEU. Next to this will be the column ZB-ALT. In my case, 9283842.

Running 9283842 through www.bmwfans.info the ZB-NR indeed refers to the same KOMBI. You can the. Manually choose this ZUSB number in winkfp and the update should proceed.

If that ZB-NR isn't found in winkfp, go back to bmwfans and underneath the number it will show the ZUSB number for the next most recent revision. Try this one.

It won't be the latest updates, but using this method I updated my KOMBI from 2006 to 2013 win new chimes, DSC icon etc etc. Everything works perfectly.

Hope this helps someone
In the end, did ZB number 9283842 work for you?

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Incase anyone was wondering this is the error:
^^^ That error occurs when the project number of the existing firmware and the ZB number you're trying to flash are different.

ZB number 9148031 is project number 1I50F and ZB number 9316154 is project number 2JU0F.
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So I researched this Error on Flash Programming 211 error for many people who are trying to update KOMBI.

To research this problem I bought I used KOMBI (high) from eBay and coded it to my car. When trying to update with WINKFP I got the error above!

From UIF I had 9148031 and selected update was 9316154. However every time the flash would fail.

The problem appears to be with the associated HW-NR. I tried every ZB-NR which had the same HW-NR and each failed in the same way.

So, if you open your KOMBI ecu family HIS file E.g. C:/EC-APPS/NFS/DATA/HKOML2.HIS

and search for your auto suggested ZB-NR (in my case 9316154 you will see it appear in the column ZB-NEU. Next to this will be the column ZB-ALT. In my case, 9283842.

Running 9283842 through www.bmwfans.info the ZB-NR indeed refers to the same KOMBI. You can the. Manually choose this ZUSB number in winkfp and the update should proceed.

If that ZB-NR isn't found in winkfp, go back to bmwfans and underneath the number it will show the ZUSB number for the next most recent revision. Try this one.

It won't be the latest updates, but using this method I updated my KOMBI from 2006 to 2013 win new chimes, DSC icon etc etc. Everything works perfectly.

Hope this helps someone
In the end, did ZB number 9283842 work for you?

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Incase anyone was wondering this is the error:
^^^ That error occurs when the project number of the existing firmware and the ZB number you're trying to flash are different.

ZB number 9148031 is project number 1I50F and ZB number 9316154 is project number 2JU0F.
Interesting stuff. Thanks.

This was quite a while ago, yes it did work.
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So I researched this Error on Flash Programming 211 error for many people who are trying to update KOMBI.

To research this problem I bought I used KOMBI (high) from eBay and coded it to my car. When trying to update with WINKFP I got the error above!

From UIF I had 9148031 and selected update was 9316154. However every time the flash would fail.

The problem appears to be with the associated HW-NR. I tried every ZB-NR which had the same HW-NR and each failed in the same way.

So, if you open your KOMBI ecu family HIS file E.g. C:/EC-APPS/NFS/DATA/HKOML2.HIS

and search for your auto suggested ZB-NR (in my case 9316154 you will see it appear in the column ZB-NEU. Next to this will be the column ZB-ALT. In my case, 9283842.

Running 9283842 through www.bmwfans.info the ZB-NR indeed refers to the same KOMBI. You can the. Manually choose this ZUSB number in winkfp and the update should proceed.

If that ZB-NR isn't found in winkfp, go back to bmwfans and underneath the number it will show the ZUSB number for the next most recent revision. Try this one.

It won't be the latest updates, but using this method I updated my KOMBI from 2006 to 2013 win new chimes, DSC icon etc etc. Everything works perfectly.

Hope this helps someone
In the end, did ZB number 9283842 work for you?

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Originally Posted by Sensible_ View Post
Incase anyone was wondering this is the error:
^^^ That error occurs when the project number of the existing firmware and the ZB number you're trying to flash are different.

ZB number 9148031 is project number 1I50F and ZB number 9316154 is project number 2JU0F.
Interesting stuff. Thanks.

This was quite a while ago, yes it did work.
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So I researched this Error on Flash Programming 211 error for many people who are trying to update KOMBI.

To research this problem I bought I used KOMBI (high) from eBay and coded it to my car. When trying to update with WINKFP I got the error above!

From UIF I had 9148031 and selected update was 9316154. However every time the flash would fail.

The problem appears to be with the associated HW-NR. I tried every ZB-NR which had the same HW-NR and each failed in the same way.

So, if you open your KOMBI ecu family HIS file E.g. C:/EC-APPS/NFS/DATA/HKOML2.HIS

and search for your auto suggested ZB-NR (in my case 9316154 you will see it appear in the column ZB-NEU. Next to this will be the column ZB-ALT. In my case, 9283842.

Running 9283842 through www.bmwfans.info the ZB-NR indeed refers to the same KOMBI. You can the. Manually choose this ZUSB number in winkfp and the update should proceed.

If that ZB-NR isn't found in winkfp, go back to bmwfans and underneath the number it will show the ZUSB number for the next most recent revision. Try this one.

It won't be the latest updates, but using this method I updated my KOMBI from 2006 to 2013 win new chimes, DSC icon etc etc. Everything works perfectly.

Hope this helps someone
In the end, did ZB number 9283842 work for you?

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Originally Posted by Sensible_ View Post
Incase anyone was wondering this is the error:
^^^ That error occurs when the project number of the existing firmware and the ZB number you're trying to flash are different.

ZB number 9148031 is project number 1I50F and ZB number 9316154 is project number 2JU0F.
Interesting stuff. Thanks.

This was quite a while ago, yes it did work.
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So I researched this Error on Flash Programming 211 error for many people who are trying to update KOMBI.

To research this problem I bought I used KOMBI (high) from eBay and coded it to my car. When trying to update with WINKFP I got the error above!

From UIF I had 9148031 and selected update was 9316154. However every time the flash would fail.

The problem appears to be with the associated HW-NR. I tried every ZB-NR which had the same HW-NR and each failed in the same way.

So, if you open your KOMBI ecu family HIS file E.g. C:/EC-APPS/NFS/DATA/HKOML2.HIS

and search for your auto suggested ZB-NR (in my case 9316154 you will see it appear in the column ZB-NEU. Next to this will be the column ZB-ALT. In my case, 9283842.

Running 9283842 through www.bmwfans.info the ZB-NR indeed refers to the same KOMBI. You can the. Manually choose this ZUSB number in winkfp and the update should proceed.

If that ZB-NR isn't found in winkfp, go back to bmwfans and underneath the number it will show the ZUSB number for the next most recent revision. Try this one.

It won't be the latest updates, but using this method I updated my KOMBI from 2006 to 2013 win new chimes, DSC icon etc etc. Everything works perfectly.

Hope this helps someone
In the end, did ZB number 9283842 work for you?

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Originally Posted by Sensible_ View Post
Incase anyone was wondering this is the error:
^^^ That error occurs when the project number of the existing firmware and the ZB number you're trying to flash are different.

ZB number 9148031 is project number 1I50F and ZB number 9316154 is project number 2JU0F.
Interesting stuff. Thanks.

This was quite a while ago, yes it did work.
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Just a note..

If you have to.. say you brick something or you want to go BACK to an older version.

http://www.ecuworx.co.uk/wp-content/...6/02/smg04.jpg

You just select (Force Programing in comfort mode option.) Makes it real easy IF you can get WinkFP to at least recognize the module.. :P

Another note for the guy who ever might read this.. You Fk'd up and you can't get the module to post in WinkFP.. Disconnect you're battery cover it with plastic or some ish. Then tie the Positive and Negative cables together and turn on your parking lights.. If you have Xenon lights I would be careful not to turn on the headlights don't think it COULD hurt anything but just keep it to the parking lights for 30 mins max.. I did 3 mins and everything was posting and throwing tons of errors at which point I was able to flash a couple and get my car at least running again. There is hope, don't give up and read the manual if all else fails lol.. If you can't find answers there you will know how to at least phrase your questions HERE better.


To OP thanks for all the sharing you do on this forum.. It has helped me many times as I have battled with this issue.


ALSO OMG ALMOST FORGOT if you uncheck all UIF write settings it wont add a count to your flash counter so you can just FLASH FLASH FLASH again. I have NO idea of the actual implications of this, but seems to be how a service tech would do it for testing before a final write..
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So, if you open your KOMBI ecu family HIS file E.g. C:/EC-APPS/NFS/DATA/HKOML2.HIS
Does anyone know how to do this? Which application can I use?

I am trying to find what is in the ZB-ALT column for 9316149 in Daten v60.1
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hi sensible/guys,

i followed your instructions to the letter but it seems i have an issue.

- basically i got 11/08 vehicle and got a used kombi from an 07/08 vehicle.
- the kombi worked fine, beside the tamper dot
- i could read with ncs expert but when i went to write it showed coapi-2063. i assumed this was a coding issue and thought if i update the software, it will resolve itself.

- my original ZB-nr UIF - 9130227
- winfp was recommending 9316149
- when i tried flashing 9316149 i would see the 211 error you describe above.

following the insturctions i proceeded with 9242368 which should be the same kombi.

winkfp flashed successfully and etc, but now no needles at all work and i cant encode with ncs expert as i get the same 2063 error on writing.

please let me know if you have anything for me to try.

Note, daten files are from e89 60.2 . can can still flash with winkfp but i cant flash my original version 9130227 as i cant find it or any subsequent update until it eventually leads to the version which was flashed.
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I'm certain I can fix this with simple encoding but no matter what I try ncs throws coapi-2063.
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Hi there, I've tried all that and same issue.

Does the kombi vin need to match cas/dme to successfully encode the kombi. This error coapi-2063 is what's preventing me encoding the kombi to the vehicle. Even googling that, info is limited. I was under the impression a used kombi could be encoded but with issues, tamper and so on.

It was working fine, although I could only read In ncs and not write. After the winkfp update, I still can't write in ncs and all the needles are dead, cic speedometer faulty. I assume all I need to do is encode to vehicle but run into the 2063 coapi error. Then again I've ready others saying custom data was retained after a winkfp update and encoding was not required.

Any other suggestions at all guys would be much appreciated.
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What is the full text of the error? Can you post a screenshot or paste from the log.

It's not so simply to recode a used KOMBI after flashing with winkfp. You should really just make the cluster virgin with a cheap eeprom programmer then try again. You can do this solder free if concerned about soldering skills.
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What is the full text of the error? Can you post a screenshot or paste from the log.

It's not so simply to recode a used KOMBI after flashing with winkfp. You should really just make the cluster virgin with a cheap eeprom programmer then try again. You can do this solder free if concerned about soldering skills.


Hi sensible
Please see error in question. Pretty much no info on google regarding it.

Hopefully you can make some sense of it

Actual like is https://ibb.co/n7rtq5
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So I researched this Error on Flash Programming 211 error for many people who are trying to update KOMBI.

[snip]

It won't be the latest updates, but using this method I updated my KOMBI from 2006 to 2013 win new chimes, DSC icon etc etc. Everything works perfectly.

Hope this helps someone
Sensible_ - this is one of the most useful threads I've come upon. Appreciated !

Had the exact same issue. Had to go from the WinKfp-suggested 9316151 [Mar'14-], to 9283839 [Jul'12-Aug'15] - which also did not work, to 9242370 [Mar'11-Nov'13] - which finally worked. Sure it's better than the 2010 version I had ('07 car), but seems I didn't get any change in chimes, DSC icons or whatever :-(. Not that I care for any of these specific items, but over all not getting anything past this 2011 version is quite frustrating in 2017. (I tried after the update to see if it'll take the 9316151 - no dice)

So now only the dealer can bump me to the latest ? Or can anyone with a ISTA/P ?

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That error occurs when the project number of the existing firmware and the ZB number you're trying to flash are different.

ZB number 9148031 is project number 1I50F and ZB number 9316154 is project number 2JU0F.
Well all these errors, for all the different cars/part no.'s, are complaining about these project numbers being wrong - can you maybe explain as to why this is happening ? Are the newer version not compatible ? Doesn't sound like it to me (mine all say 'Exchangeable retrospectively'). So what exactly is causing this ??
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Sensible_ - this is one of the most useful threads I've come upon. Appreciated !

Had the exact same issue. Had to go from the WinKfp-suggested 9316151 [Mar'14-], to 9283839 [Jul'12-Aug'15] - which also did not work, to 9242370 [Mar'11-Nov'13] - which finally worked. Sure it's better than the 2010 version I had ('07 car), but seems I didn't get any change in chimes, DSC icons or whatever :-(. Not that I care for any of these specific items, but over all not getting anything past this 2011 version is quite frustrating in 2017. (I tried after the update to see if it'll take the 9316151 - no dice)

So now only the dealer can bump me to the latest ? Or can anyone with a ISTA/P ?



Well all these errors, for all the different cars/part no.'s, are complaining about these project numbers being wrong - can you maybe explain as to why this is happening ? Are the newer version not compatible ? Doesn't sound like it to me (mine all say 'Exchangeable retrospectively'). So what exactly is causing this ??
The newer parts are compatible with older cars, but that doesn't mean the newer part's software can be installed on the older parts. Usually BMW is pretty good about setting up WinKFP so that it doesn't try to flash incompatible software, but I guess they messed up this time.
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The newer parts are compatible with older cars, but that doesn't mean the newer part's software can be installed on the older parts. Usually BMW is pretty good about setting up WinKFP so that it doesn't try to flash incompatible software, but I guess they messed up this time.
So you are saying these newer ZB's are plain incompatible for my hardware ? and thus no one, dealer incl., can upgrade mine further (well, at least until possibly a new version comes out that is compatible, chances of which are 0) ?
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The newer parts are compatible with older cars, but that doesn't mean the newer part's software can be installed on the older parts. Usually BMW is pretty good about setting up WinKFP so that it doesn't try to flash incompatible software, but I guess they messed up this time.
So you are saying these newer ZB's are plain incompatible for my hardware ? and thus no one, dealer incl., can upgrade mine further (well, at least until possibly a new version comes out that is compatible, chances of which are 0) ?
Correct.

It depends though. Sometimes updates can be forced if the changes are very small. This is not recommended though. And I wouldn't do this without direct chip recovery tools.

The bottom line is that is a software revision isn't qualified for a specific hardware number it should not be flashed. Many people misunderstand what the see on websites like realoem and bmwfans.info.

The e9x chassis is now some 5 years dead. I would expect the only software updates qualified now will be for safety / recall reasons.
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Hey guys,
I guess my coapi 2063 error might fall under one of these cases and a new chip my be the only option. Il get some and re try with vin alignment and see what happens. Cheers
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I guess my coapi 2063 error might fall under one of these cases and a new chip my be the only option. Il get some and re try with vin alignment and see what happens. Cheers
You mention vin alignment. When you did the flashing, did you not use Comfort mode ? That's how I did mine, as mentioned to 2 version older than what WinKfp was suggesting. (but you said even before flashing you could not write using NCSexpert, so the previous owner dunnit ?)
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Hi, I've update Kombi successfully and coded to default but I lost the ability to change the distance units in Idrive, the option is not there anymore, any clue?
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Hello. I retrofitted on my 2005 320d a Kombi high from a 2007 330d. It works perfect and i have no errors in impa or ista d , but when i went to update with winkfp (comfort mode / update uif) and daten v66 i got those errors. Running ista p said to replace module and after suggest a update.
The original Kombi zb is 9148030 , now at 9166859. Winkfp suggest to update to 9316152, but ista p to 9316127. I repeat , the cluster works and i have no errors but i want to update it.
Any advice on what to do ?
Any link to a guide to force the update (expert mode).
Thanks in advance.

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