[sornam2]

Hey all , now that i sold my integra dc2 now its time to get a bmw.....till now i found few bmw 2007 - 08 models e92 with 90+k miles and till now my mind is set on those , tho im scared about the problem they came out with the timing chain models 2007 - 2009 and as when i buy from the dealer i ask them if it got changed once , they dont know .... I was wondering about the BMW 2010/ 2011 saloon model with blue effiency do they have the same problem with the timing chain or anything , or as once a bmw makes 100k miles it needs to be changed, any tips guys

[pysical]

Originally Posted by sornam2

Hey all , now that i sold my integra dc2 now its time to get a bmw.....till now i found few bmw 2007 - 08 models e92 with 90+k miles and till now my mind is set on those , tho im scared about the problem they came out with the timing chain models 2007 - 2009 and as when i buy from the dealer i ask them if it got changed once , they dont know .... I was wondering about the BMW 2010/ 2011 saloon model with blue effiency do they have the same problem with the timing chain or anything , or as once a bmw makes 100k miles it needs to be changed, any tips guys

I have never heard of any issues with a timing chain that are a recurring issue like the injectors, hpfp, or turbos are.

[AlpineBoost]

^ agreed. I wouldn't worry about it unless there is/was some other issue with the car where the timing chain needed replacement. Not only on this platform, but I would think that timing chain replacement is not very common on vehicles that utilize one. They are typically built to last.

Not very knowledgeable on anything other than N54, but perhaps you are asking about the N47?

[sornam2]

As for the e92 i read alot about them giving timing chain problems thats why i thought getting a high mileage one on 90+k miles so that it would have been already changed as the problem was with low.miles car but thats not guaranteed....ye im talking about the n47 engine m8 , and as they said it occorued on model feom 2007 till 2008 or 2009 and thats why i nmwant to know if the 2010 / 2011model 4 door ED still got it or the bmw improved it, if some1 maybe knows and can help me im just dont want to get it and after a month i need to change it and even the the ckutch etc...coz from here in nalta it costa 2000

[demian5]

2006 e90 330i sport. Best e90 made.

[floydarogers]

On the timing chain, the OP is in Malta - that's Europe - and he's looking at diesels, where early versions of the N47 engine have had timing chain (tensioner) problems.

Not much we can tell him, as the USA/CA didn't have diesels in the E9x that early (and never 4-pots.) I would suggest that he consider a 318i or 320i if he wants a more reliable gas engine.

[Beaming]

I have a 2007 e92 6M with 102,000 miles. Car has been meticulously maintained and most common problematic parts replaced at usual intervals. She's never stranded me but would have had I owned an automatic.The starter gave up the ghost literally in the middle of nowhere. A quick bump start and was able to drive to my mechanic 100 miles away.I've done the other normal intake mods and deletions and car has a short throw shifter.My wife drives an 07 Miata and my car shifts even better than the Miata .I recently did the 3 stage intake an AA tune. It transformed an already great car. Driveability has increased dramatically in the lower rpms and the car pulls hard all the way to redline. I plan on keeping her for a while. I love driving her and to get this much world class car new would not be cheap. She's simply sublime..and playful.

[srmast1]

OP, it seems really risky getting into a bmw at > 90k miles, why would you even want to do this? If you must get a car with such high miles, and it must be a luxury brand, look into a Japanese car such as Lexus, Acura or Infiniti or something else more known for reliability. The 328 is a good car for sure, but German cars are not known for their reliability and you are pushing the envelope simply because you are looking for cars that are at least ten years old, and things can break. I am not saying they will, but they could and that could get expensive. My advice would be that 2007 or 2008 328i can be had for a decent price so if you absolutely must have an older BMW, save up and aim for something in the 50k to 60k mile range. This is of course unless you can do your own work. In that case buy a high milage bmw but remember, you came from an Acura. The cost of BMW parts, even non M are more expensive than Acura/Honda, and if you are not doing your own work, find a good indy dealer. I would say look else where, find something with lower miles you can more easily afford.

[sornam2]

Thanks for the reply guys , ye currently looking at some low mileage once , i prefer spending alittle bit more then have to arrange stuff on one with high mileage ......i didnt understand the part for the petrol engines , the petrol engines doesnt have the timing chain u mean ?

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by sornam2

Thanks for the reply guys , ye currently looking at some low mileage once , i prefer spending alittle bit more then have to arrange stuff on one with high mileage ......i didnt understand the part for the petrol engines , the petrol engines doesnt have the timing chain u mean ?

Gas engines have timing chains, but it's a different (old) design that has proven extremely reliable (note that the older M47 has that design). The design for the new rear-mounted timing chain on the N47 (and b48/b58 gas engines) had some teething (!sic) problems when first introduced. They are also much more expensive to replace, since the engine has to be removed from the engine compartment to access it.

[Manual Transmission]

Originally Posted by Beaming

My wife drives an 07 Miata and my car shifts even better than the Miata.

Really? I used to have a 90 Miata and its shifter was a world of difference better than my e90 and e88. Even with a CDV delete, I can't drive it as smoothly and the transmission simply isn't as sporty feeling. I could effortlessly time my shifts perfectly in the Miata. The NA/NB Miata is known for being one of the best feeling manuals around though so I don't think too much of it when my BMW wasn't quite as good. I don't know too much about the NCs manual but I've heard the Nc wasn't as sporty as the NA/NB. Is a short shifter really that great for the e90? I would definitely get one if it would make an e90 shift like a Miata, but I believe that too much of the shifter feel is tied to the engine and transmission. N52 revs drop fast and the 6 speed isn't the best match for it. I know that most people around here say that the BMW manuals are great but I just don't see it. Perhaps I've just never experienced an awful manual.

[srmast1]

Originally Posted by Manual Transmission

Really? I used to have a 90 Miata and its shifter was a world of difference better than my e90 and e88. Even with a CDV delete, I can't drive it as smoothly and the transmission simply isn't as sporty feeling. I could effortlessly time my shifts perfectly in the Miata. The NA/NB Miata is known for being one of the best feeling manuals around though so I don't think too much of it when my BMW wasn't quite as good. I don't know too much about the NCs manual but I've heard the Nc wasn't as sporty as the NA/NB. Is a short shifter really that great for the e90? I would definitely get one if it would make an e90 shift like a Miata, but I believe that too much of the shifter feel is tied to the engine and transmission. N52 revs drop fast and the 6 speed isn't the best match for it. I know that most people around here say that the BMW manuals are great but I just don't see it. Perhaps I've just never experienced an awful manual.

But, mazda and honda are known for having smooth shifters. Can't really compare against bmw. Even the mitsubishis and subaru I have owned have had smoother shifters than my e90. Standard BMW manual transmission gripe.