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      12-19-2012, 05:18 PM   #45
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Alright, I'm sold......I'm going for all the gusto at once too, M3 arms, bushings, LSD; the works. Might as well do it all at once...
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Alright, I'm sold......I'm going for all the gusto at once too, M3 arms, bushings, LSD; the works. Might as well do it all at once...
Thats what I said. I know I'm not going to keep the car forever so I'm just doing everything I want to do so I can enjoy it while I have the car.
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Alright, I'm sold......I'm going for all the gusto at once too, M3 arms, bushings, LSD; the works. Might as well do it all at once...
Thats what I said. I know I'm not going to keep the car forever so I'm just doing everything I want to do so I can enjoy it while I have the car.
Hey Dallas, can you post a short summary about Stoptech? Pros/cons and what pads are you using for street and track. I am looking to get a set and would like to get your feedback. Thx
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+1 GC spring rates have never made sense to me...
Odd. I'm running 450/800 on my ASTs and find them totally comfortable as a DD and track rat dual-purpose machine.

Only thing about the OP's spring rates that surprises me is the ratio f to r.
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OP, you have a nice looking set-up here. I would say your rear spring rate is 'spot on' but the fronts may be a little stiff. You may experience a 'pitching motion' when you go over bumps, like the car is wanting to rock back and forth and when you are at the limit, you will be more likely to have understeer with that stiff of a spring. Typically (for our suspension) the sweet spot for the front spring is anywhere between 300-400# front springs (even for taking the car to the track or autocross).

Not saying that your set-up is wrong, but it may be worth trying if have the opportunity
Agreed 100% with this. My 450 fronts might be 50# too stiff on my setup as I get slight pitching even with the heavy 800# rears. The front ends on our cars have a narrow sweet spot, IME.
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LSD=#1 mod for 335i. If you're adding stiffer springs, increasing grip and/or torque I'd do the rear subframe bushings first otherwise the rear end will move and bounce all over the place.
Definitley go for the full lock or similar..
makes a hell of a difference..
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Alright, I'm sold......I'm going for all the gusto at once too, M3 arms, bushings, LSD; the works. Might as well do it all at once...
Thats what I said. I know I'm not going to keep the car forever so I'm just doing everything I want to do so I can enjoy it while I have the car.
Hey Dallas, can you post a short summary about Stoptech? Pros/cons and what pads are you using for street and track. I am looking to get a set and would like to get your feedback. Thx
The stoptech brakes are just good. They haven't given me any problems in ten or so track days now, i use motul 600 and speed bleeders so I just give it a quick 7-push bleed before each event. I use the stoptech street performance pads for street and PFC 06's for track. The only downside to the stoptechs is cost.
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OP, you have a nice looking set-up here. I would say your rear spring rate is 'spot on' but the fronts may be a little stiff. You may experience a 'pitching motion' when you go over bumps, like the car is wanting to rock back and forth and when you are at the limit, you will be more likely to have understeer with that stiff of a spring. Typically (for our suspension) the sweet spot for the front spring is anywhere between 300-400# front springs (even for taking the car to the track or autocross).

Not saying that your set-up is wrong, but it may be worth trying if have the opportunity
Agreed 100% with this. My 450 fronts might be 50# too stiff on my setup as I get slight pitching even with the heavy 800# rears. The front ends on our cars have a narrow sweet spot, IME.
My car definitely does generally understeer with these spring rates. I am going up to 800# rears next month and might drop down to 425 fronts after I see how the rear springs do.
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Can the Konis dampen an 800 lb rear spring?
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Can the Konis dampen an 800 lb rear spring?
Guess I will find out.
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Actually, I would suggest 1/16" toe in for the front and 1/8" toe in for the rear. Also the rear camber is a little much. You will be fine with -1.5 to -2.0 at the most in the rear.
saving this for later.
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Can the Konis dampen an 800 lb rear spring?
I think unmodified konis can handle up to 700#
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