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09-21-2013, 06:51 PM | #133 | |
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It would be nice if there was a way to easily "drain" it without taking it off and draining/washing it. Although, BMW did make it relatively easy to remove the IC. |
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09-21-2013, 10:46 PM | #134 |
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Thanks TDI for sharing what you've found. It's definitely discouraging for those of us who hope to keep the d a long long time.
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09-22-2013, 06:51 AM | #135 |
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Guess there's a lot of examples of turbo cars collecting oil in their intercoolers. This actually has me wondering if the Wagner IC would be better at collecting/condensing more blow by oil mist. If a little drain valve could be added... that would make it extremely easy to routinely drain oil. |
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09-22-2013, 11:26 AM | #137 |
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On a previous car, 1995 Volvo 850 5 cylinders turbo, the intercooler had a small seep hole at the bottom of the intercooler.
I bought the car new. I was surprised to have few drop of oil leaking on a new car. The dealer explained to me that was normal, the intercooler has a small seep hole to purge condensation and oil from the intercooler. As long I had that car, I keep a small cardboard under the front of the car to catch the occasional oil drop. I put 110 K miles on that car and sold it to a friend. He drove it past 200 K miles and sold it recently, engine still running fine and no problem with the turbo. Drilling a small hole at bottom of intercooler could be a solution! |
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09-22-2013, 02:57 PM | #138 |
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Not sure if want to drill and keep the hole open. You'll lose boost pressure that way. However tapping in a drain plug is a thought. But really that is just leaving out the excess. Proper method is to find a way to avoid and clean all intake internals.
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09-22-2013, 03:58 PM | #139 |
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In my Volvo, the seep hole was small, about 1/16". Boost pressure lost should be insignificant.
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09-23-2013, 01:58 AM | #140 |
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It's still easier to tap a 1/8" screw and occasionally remove the screw and go for a drive, pressurizing the tank and pushing oil out... In theory? Maybe not
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09-23-2013, 06:33 AM | #141 |
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its interesting Idea BUT the mere fact of oil sipping out doesnt cut it, catch can I beleive 335d wagon has his done but waiting for him to post pics
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09-23-2013, 09:55 PM | #142 |
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I'm patiently waiting for the pics to be posted as well.
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09-23-2013, 10:06 PM | #143 |
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This has been a long read but I went through all 7 pages in one sitting this evening. I had written Terry about a year ago about retro fitting the 335i BMS part onto the M57. He gave me the same response as another poster in this thread. I cleaned my throttle body and EGR valve about 3000 miles ago. I have service this Friday at dealer for oil change and fuel filter (finally) and then I may take it back apart again and get a feel for how much has reaccumulated.
I wonder if getting some of this contaminant identified by a lab in worth while. Is it truly the combo of the oil from the crankcase vapor AND the soot from the EGR tract? N54 gassers get contaminant too but isn't that stuff alot harder not like the pudding consistency that out M57s are getting. What I'm wondering if the EGR were coded off if the black goo would stop but then we would have the oil residue in the IC and further down stream. TDI has found ways of turning off EGR. TDI, since finding the trick to deactivate your EGR, is the throttle body/EGR area running alot cleaner now. I had found a slight film of oil on my charge pipe but it was very clean oil and only a small amount. I did not remove IC though. |
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09-24-2013, 01:25 PM | #145 |
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Hoooper, i guess i was presuming TDI cleaned his EGR after getting it deactivated to later observe long term effects. Basically, a visual way of verifying that he really has it deactivated.
When he is back from his end of the fiscal year work, we'll let him comment. |
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Had the EGR recall work done at last years service. Not sure what things looked like at that point. Looking at the EGR a month ago (10-11 months later), with only a small period of time using modified EGR behavior, didn't show any hardened buildup. Just a very, very slight oily coating that I could still see the metal through, and would easily wipe off with a rag. However, the intake is hit with regular methanol/water vapor. I would really like to look at the intake valves, but I'm not willing to spend the time/effort to remove all the things needed to get to them, and the borescope I tried couldn't reach in far enough.
Regarding the catch can use, that wouldn't catch the oil leaking from the turbo. Although this should be small. Kicking myself for not measuring, but I'm guessing there was ~1/2 cup of oil in there after ~40k miles. Thinking that draining the intercooler will become a regular maintenance item for me. |
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Since carbon issues are thought to be regional and therefore fuel related, are we facing a general demise in diesel quality? |
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09-26-2013, 08:09 AM | #150 |
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Im thru with this EGR UREA BS, Im in the midst of removing it in the nearby future lets say 6 mo.
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09-27-2013, 03:29 AM | #151 |
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My humble advice has been stated plenty: drive it hard, often. Just like the MK4 TDI's from VW, they had terrible spot build up over time. Their remedy was to really push the car hard, and often, and that seemed to help the issue.
Go have some fun once a week or something. Just an idea! |
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09-27-2013, 05:26 AM | #152 |
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Austin I drive my car like a two cent hoe!!! Look at what happened to me on the thread GUESS WHAT?
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09-28-2013, 07:31 PM | #153 | |
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So that is the good news. My trouble is getting the red tube sleeve to fit easily into the cup before pushing in the clip. The black tube goes in very easy, but the red side is miserable. How was yours on the reinstall? I'm thinking of cooling the metal and heating up the plastic to make the connection easier tomorrow. I'm sust tired now after spending most of the afternoon cleaning out the bugs, sand from the IC and a few failed attempts to get the red tube to mate up. On the disturbing side, when I was taking the underside cover off to get at the IC, there were mouse droppings. God I hate open fields next to our parking lots.
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09-29-2013, 07:17 AM | #154 | |
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Yes, the red tube was more difficult to get in for me too. I basically mounted the IC loosely (not tightening the bolts all the way so it could slide a bit) and then worked the red tube into place first and locked it in. Having the IC loose allowed for easier alignment and then inserting. Then the black tube went in, then finally positioned the IC into its final placement and tightened things back up. Did you do any rinsing/soaking/cleaning of the inside of the IC? I did several rinsing cycles of soapy water, water, then some methanol, and then blew it out with my shop vac for many minutes to evaporate out any leftover moisture. A lot of extra buildup came out that the draining left behind. |
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