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      11-25-2018, 05:32 PM   #2971
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I would want a non-xi sport package car. auto or manual.

comfort access is a no brainer.
I'd probably try and not get idrive. because it's all dated at this point.

my erfect e91 would be a 6 speed rwd sport package no idrive car.
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In a dream world, I'd own an e91 6spd with N54- Alpine White/Coral Red....oh man.
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In a dream world, I'd own an e91 6spd with N54- Alpine White/Coral Red....oh man.
Well of course with N54! Just a bummer we are in the States and never had that option. Has anyone looked into the price of having one imported?
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My favorite photo of my e91 before I sell it!
She's looking good, even in the IL winter climate.

I'm curious - what would you choose to replace your E91? There are so many choices and form factors today, but IMHO the E91 package is tough to beat and almost perfect (except for the limited North American power plant availability).
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Well of course with N54! Just a bummer we are in the States and never had that option. Has anyone looked into the price of having one imported?
you can't.
not 25 years old.

if you want a 335 e91 you're doing a chassis swap.
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      11-26-2018, 01:12 PM   #2977
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She's looking good, even in the IL winter climate.

I'm curious - what would you choose to replace your E91? There are so many choices and form factors today, but IMHO the E91 package is tough to beat and almost perfect (except for the limited North American power plant availability).
The e91 is the perfect car for someone who needs the utility, wants a true BMW on a budget, and is limited to one car.

My replacement was an X5M. I should also mention that I have an e90 M3, so the obviously car to part with at this point is the e91.
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The e91 is the perfect car for someone who needs the utility, wants a true BMW on a budget, and is limited to one car.

My replacement was an X5M. I should also mention that I have an e90 M3, so the obviously car to part with at this point is the e91.
Thanks. Agree that a garage filled with an X5M and M3 makes for a well-rounded quiver.

I bought mine before we were a two-car household (downtown city living). Since then we added a Jeep Grand Cherokee for winter-season and mountain adventures. Had we started with the Jeep, I would probably have more of a toy for a second car, like your M3 or a Vette / Camaro / Porsche. As is, I still love the wagon and enjoy its utility value, dynamics and size.

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I sometimes regret not buying a e61.

but then I parallel park my e91 in a place that an e61 wouldn't fit in.

it's a tossup. the 535 power and the ability to simply flash an additional 150 hp after you slap an intercooler and charge pipes on it is very intoxicating. I'd say that my N52 has been cheaper to run, but that's just a lie I tell myself, since there's a valve cover and intake manifold sitting here, I need to order an ESS, and I just got a waterpupm backup power error, so I guess I'm no longer invincible and at 138K miles I'm gonna do the pump and thermostat too.
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I sometimes regret not buying a e61.

but then I parallel park my e91 in a place that an e61 wouldn't fit in.

it's a tossup. the 535 power and the ability to simply flash an additional 150 hp after you slap an intercooler and charge pipes on it is very intoxicating. I'd say that my N52 has been cheaper to run, but that's just a lie I tell myself, since there's a valve cover and intake manifold sitting here, I need to order an ESS, and I just got a waterpupm backup power error, so I guess I'm no longer invincible and at 138K miles I'm gonna do the pump and thermostat too.
Eh you can fix all that in a weekend
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I sometimes regret not buying a e61.

but then I parallel park my e91 in a place that an e61 wouldn't fit in.

it's a tossup. the 535 power and the ability to simply flash an additional 150 hp after you slap an intercooler and charge pipes on it is very intoxicating. I'd say that my N52 has been cheaper to run, but that's just a lie I tell myself, since there's a valve cover and intake manifold sitting here, I need to order an ESS, and I just got a waterpupm backup power error, so I guess I'm no longer invincible and at 138K miles I'm gonna do the pump and thermostat too.
This is my current dilemma, E91 or E61. Family would make me think E61 for size and more room; however, E91 seems more nimble. Ah who knows. Has anyone here driven both and could weigh in?
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This is my current dilemma, E91 or E61. Family would make me think E61 for size and more room; however, E91 seems more nimble. Ah who knows. Has anyone here driven both and could weigh in?
To me, the e61 dosent add THAT much more room. Sure its bigger but I dont think anything you can haul/fit in the e61...you can pretty much fit in an e91. I have no proof of this btw, just my $0.02
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In a dream world, I'd own an e91 6spd with N54- Alpine White/Coral Red....oh man.
not quite white or coral red but not a million miles away but ticking the other boxes, 335i 6MT, also has Birds package, i.e Bilsteins, Eibach and quaife LSD.



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This is my current dilemma, E91 or E61. Family would make me think E61 for size and more room; however, E91 seems more nimble. Ah who knows. Has anyone here driven both and could weigh in?
I considered an E61 for my wife, so we took a couple out for test drives. I'm coming from an E91 background.

As one would expect, the cars are similar (being wagons), but their personalities differ. I agree the 5-series long roof doesn't offer any more than a marginal increase in luggage volume. On the other hand, the character of the car is tilted more to luxury and less to sporty. The car feels heavier, more stable, and quieter, compared with the 3-er.

Know thyself. I liked the idea of my wife in an E61. She doesn't share my enthusiast tendencies, so safety and comfort are good matches for her usage. For me? I prefer a nimble, lightweight and compact alternative, with a sporty personality beneath sleeper body work.

As with many choices, this isn't one of better or worse, rather which vehicle is a better fit for one's circumstances.
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I sometimes regret not buying a e61.

but then I parallel park my e91 in a place that an e61 wouldn't fit in.

it's a tossup. the 535 power and the ability to simply flash an additional 150 hp after you slap an intercooler and charge pipes on it is very intoxicating. I'd say that my N52 has been cheaper to run, but that's just a lie I tell myself, since there's a valve cover and intake manifold sitting here, I need to order an ESS, and I just got a waterpupm backup power error, so I guess I'm no longer invincible and at 138K miles I'm gonna do the pump and thermostat too.
This is my current dilemma, E91 or E61. Family would make me think E61 for size and more room; however, E91 seems more nimble. Ah who knows. Has anyone here driven both and could weigh in?
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I sometimes regret not buying a e61.

but then I parallel park my e91 in a place that an e61 wouldn't fit in.

it's a tossup. the 535 power and the ability to simply flash an additional 150 hp after you slap an intercooler and charge pipes on it is very intoxicating. I'd say that my N52 has been cheaper to run, but that's just a lie I tell myself, since there's a valve cover and intake manifold sitting here, I need to order an ESS, and I just got a waterpupm backup power error, so I guess I'm no longer invincible and at 138K miles I'm gonna do the pump and thermostat too.
This is my current dilemma, E91 or E61. Family would make me think E61 for size and more room; however, E91 seems more nimble. Ah who knows. Has anyone here driven both and could weigh in?
What about an e91 w a N54 swap?
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I considered an E61 for my wife, so we took a couple out for test drives. I'm coming from an E91 background.

As one would expect, the cars are similar (being wagons), but their personalities differ. I agree the 5-series long roof doesn't offer any more than a marginal increase in luggage volume. On the other hand, the character of the car is tilted more to luxury and less to sporty. The car feels heavier, more stable, and quieter, compared with the 3-er.

Know thyself. I liked the idea of my wife in an E61. She doesn't share my enthusiast tendencies, so safety and comfort are good matches for her usage. For me? I prefer a nimble, lightweight and compact alternative, with a sporty personality beneath sleeper body work.

As with many choices, this isn't one of better or worse, rather which vehicle is a better fit for one's circumstances.
I'm actually giving my red e91 m3 conversion to my wife. She's currently in a lease and we're not trying to pick up another car payment. I picked up a 6MT project e91 I'm currently working on doing the m3 swap on that as well as other goodies. My wife is happy, but she does not like the sporty attention getting red color
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Eh you can fix all that in a weekend
if you got that 5 grand for me to find a decent 335 donor I'll get right on it.

this is a way to turn a 10K dollar e91 into a car that costs twice as much, and is still only worth 10 grand.

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This is my current dilemma, E91 or E61. Family would make me think E61 for size and more room; however, E91 seems more nimble. Ah who knows. Has anyone here driven both and could weigh in?
the aftermarket is heavily skewed towards the 3 chassis.
there's more room in the back of an e61 behind the seats, no doubt. and that air ride in the rear means you can put 500lbs worth of stuff in the back and it doesn't sag.

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To me, the e61 dosent add THAT much more room. Sure its bigger but I dont think anything you can haul/fit in the e61...you can pretty much fit in an e91. I have no proof of this btw, just my $0.02
disagree. there's another 12 inches behind the seats and another 5 inches between the wheels.
the back seat in a 3 series is cramped for an adult, the 5 series is much more pleasan to ride in the back of.

also, if you want all the options, like segmented seat heaters and shit, they were standard on 5 series.
My e91 is heavily optioned. like everything, ad I still don't have all the things that my brother's e60/61's have. I'd very much like the power tilt wheel.

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I also don't think that the e61 is THAT much heavier than the e91.
aluminum body bits made it to the 5'er first.
maybe a 200lbs difference?
it's not a lot when you consider that turbo power.
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I considered an E61 for my wife, so we took a couple out for test drives. I'm coming from an E91 background.

As one would expect, the cars are similar (being wagons), but their personalities differ. I agree the 5-series long roof doesn't offer any more than a marginal increase in luggage volume. On the other hand, the character of the car is tilted more to luxury and less to sporty. The car feels heavier, more stable, and quieter, compared with the 3-er.

Know thyself. I liked the idea of my wife in an E61. She doesn't share my enthusiast tendencies, so safety and comfort are good matches for her usage. For me? I prefer a nimble, lightweight and compact alternative, with a sporty personality beneath sleeper body work.

As with many choices, this isn't one of better or worse, rather which vehicle is a better fit for one's circumstances.
I'm actually giving my red e91 m3 conversion to my wife. She's currently in a lease and we're not trying to pick up another car payment. I picked up a 6MT project e91 I'm currently working on doing the m3 swap on that as well as other goodies. My wife is happy, but she does not like the sporty attention getting red color
Did you pick up the black salvage e91 6MT for $2500 on Craigslist? I went to look at it but decided to pass. I just didn't want to start another project e91 till I finish my current project e91 lol.

ps I was not looking forward to fixing the broken sunroof also since the whole headliner needs to come out.
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ps I was not looking forward to fixing the broken sunroof also since the whole headliner needs to come out.
Removing the headliner is a real PITA. The materials are delicate, there's a long list of trim to remove before gaining access (I think I remember actually needing to remove floor trim, then move up, before gaining access to the headliner), and an error will likely be visible.

Not saying it can't be done - it most certainly can. Just calibrate expectations, and double your patience allowance before beginning.
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ps I was not looking forward to fixing the broken sunroof also since the whole headliner needs to come out.
Removing the headliner is a real PITA. The materials are delicate, there's a long list of trim to remove before gaining access (I think I remember actually needing to remove floor trim, then move up, before gaining access to the headliner), and an error will likely be visible.

Not saying it can't be done - it most certainly can. Just calibrate expectations, and double your patience allowance before beginning.
But if he got the 6MT E91 for $2500.. wouldn't be as bad if he paid someone to do it lol. I just didn't want to put in another 8k+ to get the car to my standards since it was salvage title.
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