High mileage E90's Beware: Oil Pan Gasket Leak

sirantsE90 · 07-01-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Miller335

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Originally Posted by sirantsE90

Agreed subframe drop is under an hour with securing the car but how are all of you holding the motor in place when dropping the pan? I have always used a jack under the pan to hold the motor up when dropping the subframe.

Just swapped out motor mounts last weekend and noticed mine is now leaking. Im going to do the subframe bushings at the same time but i dont have an engine hoist.

$80 harbor freight one works well.

Where are the lift points on this motor. I've seen one at the front but haven't seen others. Have you done it?

rogerdiaz · 07-09-2015, 01:31 PM

Anyone know the cost for a stealership to do this? 335d with 131,000 miles.

Nexic · 07-09-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerdiaz

Anyone know the cost for a stealership to do this? 335d with 131,000 miles.

I got quoted $1,200 for my 335i. I did it myself in 6 hours including dropping the subframe.

rogerdiaz · 07-09-2015, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexic

I got quoted $1,200 for my 335i. I did it myself in 6 hours including dropping the subframe.

Good Lord!
Thank you!

MadeInPhilly · 07-09-2015, 09:48 PM

i have my car on ramps right now to look at a waterpump leak. It's very tight under the car. I would think you would need to put the car on tallest setting on jackstands.

FrankyGTR · 08-10-2015, 06:07 PM

the diy link is not working? any others?

Miller335 · 08-10-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sirantsE90

Where are the lift points on this motor. I've seen one at the front but haven't seen others. Have you done it?

On the inner fenders.
Your not lifting, your just holding the engine in place.

minifridge1138 · 08-12-2015, 04:44 PM

I was lucky and had the gasket replaced by the dealer while my car was (barely) still under CPO.

I didn't see the actual cost (the receipt had $0.00 because warranty), but my SA said it was about $75.00 in oil, $25.00 for the oil pan gasket, and $900.00 in labor.

They had my car for about a week, but I have no idea how much of that week was dedicated to my car. If you assume $85 an hour, then it comes to about 10.5 hours of work.

mrucker71 · 01-31-2017, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jpirelli

Can it be done w/o dropping the subframe? N54.

From everything I have read, there is no way around this. I may have to do this myself. They say it takes 6 hours. I say I can do it in 3 or 4 hours.

limitdown · 01-31-2017, 09:26 PM

Go slowly when removing the single-use aluminum bolts. 3 of mine broke and that added at least 2hrs to the job. Also be careful when torquing the new bolts. BMW calls for 8nm or 6lb/ft +90degrees
My old gasket was baked onto the the pan. It was quite difficult to scrape it all off.

With the subframe down, there are many items you can check and proactively replace.

mweisdorfer · 02-05-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jpirelli

Can it be done w/o dropping the subframe? N54.

No

RuskiE39 · 03-15-2018, 11:23 PM

Read a good DIY on the non turbo engines, is it much different on a turbo version?

d3drturner · 04-22-2018, 09:39 PM

In the midst of doing this on a 2008 335xi. 8 hours to get it off. The turbos do not play into it. The front axles and diff add time. I did not drain any coolant or PS fluid. Left the PS rack hanging. Not using additional sealant because I want to do this again in another 120k miles.

ThatRWD · 07-22-2018, 11:42 AM

What's it gonna hurt if you don't do it, besides having to top up oil?

E7J3F3 · 07-22-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by straightcashhomie

how much for this fix at an indy?...

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Originally Posted by straightcashhomie

how much for this fix at an indy?...

I paid roughly 1k usd.

Cabdriver · 07-24-2018, 02:37 PM

Oil pan seepage is more a feature rather than burden on this car...lol

wrrush · 07-28-2018, 08:45 PM

OMG this is nothing, should take a couple hours for a newbie, go try an XI and then come back with complaints lol

Quick335XI · 07-30-2018, 02:51 PM

Very common known issue, no big deal at all.

07-09-2015, 01:31 PM	#46
rogerdiaz Captain 27 Rep 743 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (2)	Anyone know the cost for a stealership to do this? 335d with 131,000 miles.
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MadeInPhilly First Lieutenant 43 Rep 301 Posts Drives: E30 318is, E90 335i, 03 GTI Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	i have my car on ramps right now to look at a waterpump leak. It's very tight under the car. I would think you would need to put the car on tallest setting on jackstands.
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08-10-2015, 06:07 PM	#50
FrankyGTR Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 195 Posts Drives: N54 335i 6MT-R32GTR Join Date: May 2013 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	the diy link is not working? any others? __________________ 2008 335i coupe 6MT BOOST FIEND
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minifridge1138 Private 11 Rep 63 Posts Drives: It has 4 wheels and an engine Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	I was lucky and had the gasket replaced by the dealer while my car was (barely) still under CPO. I didn't see the actual cost (the receipt had $0.00 because warranty), but my SA said it was about $75.00 in oil, $25.00 for the oil pan gasket, and $900.00 in labor. They had my car for about a week, but I have no idea how much of that week was dedicated to my car. If you assume $85 an hour, then it comes to about 10.5 hours of work.
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01-31-2017, 09:26 PM	#54
limitdown First Lieutenant 187 Rep 337 Posts Drives: 2007 335i E93 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Location iTrader: (0)	Go slowly when removing the single-use aluminum bolts. 3 of mine broke and that added at least 2hrs to the job. Also be careful when torquing the new bolts. BMW calls for 8nm or 6lb/ft +90degrees My old gasket was baked onto the the pan. It was quite difficult to scrape it all off. With the subframe down, there are many items you can check and proactively replace.
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RuskiE39 Running Late 89 Rep 168 Posts Drives: E70d, F30, F82, 100 LC Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Read a good DIY on the non turbo engines, is it much different on a turbo version?
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d3drturner New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cbus, Ohio iTrader: (0)	still alive in 2018 In the midst of doing this on a 2008 335xi. 8 hours to get it off. The turbos do not play into it. The front axles and diff add time. I did not drain any coolant or PS fluid. Left the PS rack hanging. Not using additional sealant because I want to do this again in another 120k miles.
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07-22-2018, 11:42 AM	#58
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Cabdriver Private First Class 52 Rep 164 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Oil pan seepage is more a feature rather than burden on this car...lol
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07-28-2018, 08:45 PM	#61
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07-30-2018, 02:51 PM	#62
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