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07-13-2014, 10:24 AM | #1 |
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Active Cruise Control REMOVAL (not retrofit)
I recently purchased a used '07 e92 335i. Completely thrilled with the car.
It came with Active Cruise Control- upon my first attempt to use it, my display read 'Active Cruise Control Malfunction'. I've read that that error can be caused by misalignment- anything from snow to rain, etc. I had a VIN vehicle inquiry printed out (unrelated) and noticed a Defect Code '6631001500 - Long range sensor, ACC (active cruise control) permanent malfunction'. I can't find any information on this. Does anyone have any experience with this or information on the code? As my car is manual, and my commute without too much traffic, the active cruise control is not that attractive to me. As I may want to change my front bumper cover in the future, I'm wondering what all is involved in removing the ACC from my car? I've read that Dynamic Cruise Control is standard- will removing the ACC allow me to just have that feature? I know I can't just remove the sensor- there is a different control stalk for it, possibly a different cluster. Lastly, what coding would need to be done for this? Any input or information would be appreciated. Thanks |
07-13-2014, 12:26 PM | #2 |
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you need to remove sensor, LDM module in driver's legroom and switch stalk
replace switch stalk with regular switch stalk with cruise (there are plenty on ebay) code options (remove SA541 and add SA544) |
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07-13-2014, 12:55 PM | #3 |
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I'll trade you all my stock parts for all your stock parts.
I'll send you my cruise control stalk. E92 front bumper grill mesh. (No hole for sensor) You send me front sensor, cc stalk, and active cruise control control box thing in drivers side footwell. The coding is just a standard VO (vehicle order) change. As stated above. Remove active cruise control and add dynamic cruise control. Code CAS and Komi I believe. Possibly a few other modules. DSC. Cluster is the same. |
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07-13-2014, 04:40 PM | #5 |
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If it doesn't work, why just not use it? Can you not use regular cruise control without it being "active"? Excuse me if that's a dumb question, as I just have the normal cruise control, but I would assume you could enable and disable the "active" part. The same as you can enable and disable the rain sensing wipers. I have to hit a button for my wipers to be rain sensing, otherwise they're just normal wipers. Is this not the same with cruise control?
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07-13-2014, 05:17 PM | #6 |
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AWDBooSTIn90, sorry I know the value of the parts. If the permanent malfunction isn't related to the sensor, then I'm selling it. My next step was a feeler thread for the sale. If you're interested in buying it, or a trade plus cash, then we can talk.
latino1ny, I have been not using it. I want to sell it, but am looking for further information on the removal and any associated issues that may arise. As far as enable/disable the active component, I don't think that's possible. If its too much of a hassle, I'll just leave it in and ignore it. |
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12-27-2016, 10:53 AM | #8 |
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Hello all,
New to the forum here and I wondered if anyone had information about converting Active Cruise to Regular Cruise. I have a e92 335 that has active that doesn't work bc it needs alignment. I'd like to remove the active parts and replace with standard dynamic. Maybe sell the Active components. Any help or direction would be appreciated! Thanks! Jason |
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I don't know how much it would cost, but if the sensor is out of alignment, I'm guessing something was damaged, or replaced, and the sensor needs to be repositioned. If that's the case, I'm guessing cost would be ~ $500 - but that's just a WAG. I think you should be able to simply recode the car, remove 541 (Active Cruise Control) and add 544 (Dynamic Cruise Control - cruise with downhill braking) - no sense going to 540, regular cruise control, with ACC everything it there for 544. I'm guessing that would work, even with the sensor, and LDM (Longitudinal Dynamics Management) module hooked up. But if not, recoding, and disconnecting the ACC sensor, at the front of the car, and the LDM, under the steering column, should definitely get 544 working. |
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06-03-2017, 08:36 PM | #11 | |
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- One thing, the previous owner of my car had "rode up" on a median in a shopping center which jarred the sensor loose (without breaking anything) which caused the system to need an alignment. So for anyone interested, pretty much any movement of that sensor (bad enough pot hole at the right angle, hitting bottom of bumper on curb, etc) will cause it to go out of "spec". Using any BMW scanner you will then see a specific code "Active Cruise Control Malfunction" HOWEVER, if the sensor or any other component is damaged or defective (Sensor itself, LDM, etc) there will be a different, more specific code. As far as pricing on the alignment goes, out here in NY, had a couple dealers quote me between $250-$350 for active cruise control alignment, basically explaining to me its about an hour and a half to 2 hours labor. Though you are totally correct in regards to coding out the ACC option ($541) and adding Dynamic cruise control ($544), or even regular for that matter, its a no go. The LDM module can not be coded, they appear to be the same part # on RealOEM (for dynamic and adaptive) however im not sure how to code that specific module to not look for ACC. When i changed the VO, i was still getting a "Cruise Control Malfunction" error. I looked through CAS, FRM, KOMBI and any other module i could think would talk to the LDM to dictate the presence of ACC vs DCC but couldn't find anything, so if anyone has any ideas on where to look, comment! The stalk I dont see being an issue, the LDM for dynamic would basically operate based on the movement of the stalk and not whats written on it, it might be confusing looking down and seeing the different options (car distance VS set/accel etc) but theres no real way of the LDM seeing a difference in stalks, since internally they are the same. So it really comes down to what you think is worth it. Me personally, if it was as simple as coding, i would have just did that, but the price i was quoted is not really much, and my sensor is not defective so I will probably just have BMW align it and make sure not to jar it loose.
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I'll be home from work in an hour or so, that work for you? Team viewer?
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Wait, how do you have adaptive cruise? I was under the impression that manual transmissions make this a non-option?
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Hi, I'm trying to do the same thing - go from ACC to Dynamic, but I'm having trouble coding the necessary modules with the new FA - the FA_Write job just doesn't appear on the job list in NCS expert. Am I doing something wrong or is my software faulty?
I was able to do the FA_Write on CAS, but not DSC and KOMBI. |
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When I pulled the Cruise Control lever, it still gave me the ACC error in the iDrive system.
Should I hit SG_Codieren on CAS as well? I thought FA_Write was enough on CAS. After I tried this, I replugged the ACC radar, is it important to have it unplugged or is it not important? |
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08-13-2017, 01:20 AM | #22 |
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Thank you for being so patient with me
Unplugged the radar, then: 1. Change the FA on CAS, added $544 and removed $541 2. FA_Write on CAS 3. SG_Codieren on KOMBI and DSC Tried to activate cruise control, didn't work, so I put everything back to how it was, meaning I plugged the faulty radar back in, removed 544 and added 541 to CAS FA, performed FA_Write on CAS and SG_Codieren on KOMBI and DSC. Meaning I'm back to where I started which is an unusable ACC. |
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